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[errant_knight]

CalJones wrote...

My bad - I linked DG's replies in this thread to the Alistair tantrum thread. Ah well.

Yes, that was...bad. What say we move all this back to the thread from whence it came? We really need only one of these.... Let this one die.

Modifié par errant_knight, 07 avril 2010 - 05:06 .

[remylass]

I love Alistair. I think his character rocks. I think it is fun to watch him develop as a person.

[Serissia]

I love Alistair but sadly I have to say Duncan's beard > Alistair

[OrlesianWardenCommander]

Omg alistar as a macho man would be more annoying then anything i could possibly imagine. But still cant get over what David Gaider said my god that made me bust a gut. Well said david alistar is perfect the way he is.

Modifié par OrlesianWardenCommander, 07 avril 2010 - 07:02 .

[UrsulaCousland]

imported_beer wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Tell you what.

Next time we put in a male lead, we will make sure to make him the manliest and most stoic creature you could possibly imagine. Just for you. He will be so manly he will suck the body hair right off of John Wayne and make Chuck Norris weep with envy. He will never show a single emotion, not even at his grandmother's funeral, and will never utter a single complaint about your actions... he will simply reach out of the game, slap you across the face and then take over the party.

The rest of the party won't mind, and neither will you... because he will be that awesome. Deep down inside you will resent him, and resent the fact that every NPC in every town the party enters falls in love with him and not with you. But that part of you also knows he deserves that love. Even needs it.

I am certain there is not a single fault that you or anyone could find with such a character.

Though that is delightful, I need you to reassure me that you are joking.

Please, Mr. Gaider I *really* need you to reassure me that the next male lead will not be like this.

I am serious.

I agree, and I can only *imagine* the epic kvetching and whining that would come from the same crowd that 'hates Alistair' to begin with, because Macho NPC takes the story out of their hands.

[Caldarin V]

It would kinda crack me up if there was a town or something that you walked into, and everybody starting raving over one of the NPCs with you



kinda like Jayne from Firefly in Jaynestown- he could have a song and everything!

[UrsulaCousland]

Caldarin V wrote...

It would kinda crack me up if there was a town or something that you walked into, and everybody starting raving over one of the NPCs with you

kinda like Jayne from Firefly in Jaynestown- he could have a song and everything!

I'd love that, actually...maybe I'm not the only famous one now! (I got seriously cheesed that no one paid any attention to anyone that was with me with the exception of the Landsmeet to begin with, and I have Eamon to thank for *that*. *glowers at Eamon*

[errant_knight]

Caldarin V wrote...

It would kinda crack me up if there was a town or something that you walked into, and everybody starting raving over one of the NPCs with you

kinda like Jayne from Firefly in Jaynestown- he could have a song and everything!

That was such a great episode--not that there were any bad ones. *misses Firefly, hopes Chuck get renewed*

[Caldarin V]

Don't see why Chuck would get axed... it's amazing

Also, I've gotta say, I enjoy Alistair as a character, and I can understand how his character evolves and acts based on his back story

[thegreymeister]

I think if anyone here played KotOR and hated Carth they will hate Allistar. Emotional guy characters always get hated on from forum the peanut gallery.

[GarG PS3]

He can be a bit annoying, but for some reason I still like him. Comical relief I guess.

[NCPokey]

Overall, I liked Alistair well enough but found his sense of humor to be distractingly modern.

[Alyka]

Mirthadrond wrote...

I can't believe people think Alister is whinny.

I never got that impression about him at all.

Kudos to David for posting, I read his comment, then realized who posted it.

I'm like: oh snap!!!

Alister is awesome, certainly one of my favorite characters.

Mine too.

Alistair is a man who:
- Was born a bastard who barely knew his father, mother or half-brother.
- Was taken in by Arl Eamon who is Maric's wifes' brother. They're not even related. (Arl Eamon is a good man.I gotta give him props for that.)
- Was taken to the Chantry because Isolde is a biotch who only cares about her reputation and she treated him like an outcast.
- Was raised in the Chantry where the children picked on him.Later he trained to be a Templar.
(If he hasn't already,by now he probably feels not wanted.)
- Duncan comes along and see's that Alistair's abilites might help the Grey Warden's.Alistair figures he might as well join because he hates the Chantry life and he would be accepted in the Grey Warden's.Alistair see's Duncan as a person who actually finds Alistair useful and not as someone who is not wanted.If I were Alistair, I would be just as upset over Duncan's death.
- A new Grey Warden enters.If you romance him, he see's you as the best thing that has ever happened to him. If you're his best friend, he see's you as someone who cares about him and is looking out for him.
- Finds out he has a sister who turns out to be a gold digger who doesn't even care about trying to reunite with him.

I feel really bad for Alistair. I pity him. And I can relate and understand what he's gone through.I want to be that friend who is there for him even though other people shunned him.Someone that he can depend on.
All things considered,I think Alistair handles his situation pretty well.Would some people in real life handle it any better? Probably not. I know I couldn't.I mean it's one thing to have a few of those things happen to you, but all of those? Someone would have a nervous breakdown, or worse.
This is why I like him.
I think Alistair has every right to be angry if you let Loghain live.You're not only betraying him but also, he can't believe you're letting a man who tried to kill you too, live.Alistair can't believe that. It's like a WTF!? moment.
Alistair is not whiny. He's having a normal reaction to the death and betrayal of his friend/father figure. Sure, he has an innocence about him and inexperience with some things, but what do you expect from a person who was forced to live in a Chantry for most of his life?

BTW,he even apologizes for being upset, which IMO,nobody should be apologizing for grieving over someone who they cared about.Ever.

Modifié par Alyka, 08 avril 2010 - 04:38 .

[Bluebruiser]

I did too. At first. My first playthrough I didn't take him along not only because I was a tank but also because I found him somewhat annoying.

But the truth is after 4+ playthroughs his character is far more interesting than most. Consider the facts, he is the bastard child of Maric, recently had all his friends and last remaining family (aside from spiteful sister) die at the hands of the darkspawn and is now faced with the task of creating an army to defeat a blight. Oh and now people want to put him forward as King in a potential succession contest.

Despite these severe challenges and hardships he remains upbeat and funny. I wish most people in the world were as well adjusted as Alistair.

Personally I find that I can relate more to him after he's hardened, but that has to do more with my own worldview than any previous like or dislike of Alistair.

I think that the dislike people exhibit for Alistair is probably a barometer for their discomfort with emotion and for their lack of self awareness. I shudder to think those who "hated Alistair" would react to people who exhibit real emotions and doubt.

Finally, having gone through multiple playthroughs, I find it unsurprising that Alistair (during the epilogue) turns out to be a good and loved King. Like a real person he has doubts about himself and his capacity to rule. More importantly, he doesn't crave power but sees being king as a responsibility to be taken seriously and to benefit others rather than himself.

I would hope that in the sequels, more characters are as well designed as Alistair, Morrigan, Zevran and Leliana.

-edited for format.

Modifié par Bluebruiser, 08 avril 2010 - 05:08 .

[Therigan]

He always reminding me of the normal paladin.  He doesn't bother me much.


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[Saibh]

Woah! Thread necro from seven months ago? I'm not sure what you're talking about...

[metalcraze33]

there is already a thread like this with 100 precent more awesome

[tuppence95]

metalcraze33 wrote...

there is already a thread like this with 100 precent more awesome

This thread's been around for 10 months and has the awesomeness of Gaider, so the new one pales in comparison.