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[Isichar]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Isichar wrote...

I cant imagine using the internet and feeling emotionally invested in what people said online...

People like that usually go depressive to the max. Not a nice thing. Still a shame thought hat eBullying is getting downplayed. Generally bullying is considered frighteningly trivial, something like child's play, even though it's a pretty significant problem and naturally escalating social isolation that has been present ever since mankind and its predecessors started living in groups.


The implication as to why it's still largely ignored on basically every social level is a soul-shattering revelation about humanity's social nature.

If someone is looking for emotional security on the internet then I would imagine that means they have a serious lack of it in real life and in no way shape or form is it a good idea to let your emotional wellbeing be effected by strangers like that.

Its one thing to use the internet as an outlet and escape but it certainly cannot be used in place of having genuine real life emotional anchors.

[Bionuts]

On the internet, and mostly real life, I've had people compliment me on how understanding I was of their situation.

Many people want someone to hear them out, or even help them, but the greater majority of people care little for others.

[Eternal Phoenix]

Foolish, that's what.

Most of the people who share their problems on the internet in a public forum strike me as mentally unstable in some way. The information they share sets them up for bullying and exploitation. To actually air your dirty laundry in public suggests you're either naive, ignorant, attention-seeking or have a larger problem.

There are help-lines and organizations dedicated to helping people so if you ever come into such a situation and don't have any friends/family why trust complete and utter random strangers on the internet over an organization dedicated to helping people? Granted the later are also random strangers but it's their job to help.

I think the worst people though are the ones who think it's okay to bully these people who most likely have some bigger underlying problem. Now I'm not saying all who share such information with the internet are mentally unstable but I think a great deal of them are in some way or emotionally unstable. Mocking them for that isn't a good thing.

Modifié par Elton John is dead, 06 août 2013 - 04:25 .

[Eurypterid]

I find it sad that they can't or won't get help from sources like family and friends or those listed by Elton. As noted by Mr. ...is dead, they just set themselves up for bullying by internet trolls and I'd assume this just ends up making things worse. When I see a thread like that or one that I think may be one of those threads I tend to just shy away from it.

[Fishy]

Can't answer. That depend of a lot of things. I think you just need to be prudent .... Because anything you say on the internet can be used against you.

[Bionuts]

In real life, many people have problems they don't feel comfortable sharing. I'm good at getting people to tell me their problems, but I doubt most people were raised to have that type of skill. Because of this, many people don't feel they have any place to turn. Most of these people keep these problems buried inside them, but some go on the internet, hopeful that someone can help them.

There are many people looking for help. Old, young, athletic, fat, woman, man, tall, short, etc. They'll hide their problems until they find someone who genuinely cares, a very small amount of people.

[Bourne Endeavor]

I have little qualms listening to someone's problems, provided we have a rapport of some sort and/or they have the custody to ask beforehand; a thread dedicate to the subject or an initial statement as a "trigger" spoiler warning is fair game by my standards. If I have something to add or am willing to offer advice, I may do so. Some people only want to vent and need a little nudge. I also find human behavior a fascinating topic and am always curious how people deal with life's set of problems.

My one and only warning is my tendency to be bluntly honest. If a person is looking for a sugarcoated story, I am probably the last person they would want to hear from.

Perhaps, due to my experiences, I have become jaded with age, but I have admitted difficulty dealing with people unwilling to push themselves. In that respect, you are simply whining and do not actually want a solution, just people to say "aww, poor baby." You know, in a less condescending and more pat on back sort of way.

I am squadmate or ally support, helping you along the way, not fighting all your battles myself. 

What? A gaming forum needs a gaming reference.

Modifié par Bourne Endeavor, 06 août 2013 - 10:56 .

[Bionuts]

It takes experience to confront someone with their faults, and have them accept it with full responsibility.

[RedArmyShogun]

@ Elton John is dead

But wouldn't those same call line people be total nameless faceless strangers?

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Please clarify this if we ignore trolls:

What if you REALLY have a problem, but in RL nobody cares or treat you like it's a fraud... simply there is least of sympathies.

What if you REALLY need a tip or solution, but it isn't available in your area, among your family, relatives and friends?

[SafetyShattered]

Depends on what exactly the problem they're dealing with is, and who they bring it up with. If a friend of mine from here sent me a PM saying they were depressed about something then of course it's ok and i'd do everything in my power to help them. If it's just some random person that makes a thread about it then i'd say it's less appropriate.

[Mashiro Yuki]

Kaiser Arian wrote...

Please clarify this if we ignore trolls:

What if you REALLY have a problem, but in RL nobody cares or treat you like it's a fraud... simply there is least of sympathies.

What if you REALLY need a tip or solution, but it isn't available in your area, among your family, relatives and friends?

I think someone said something about dedicated organizations that try to help people with that kind of stuff.

I understand it's their job to help, but I'd never go to something like that for help, myself. I'd rather talk to a friend. Even if I did meet that friend online.

Considering how I know a lot of people who have it pretty bad, but they've never been whisked away to somewhere better by some organization, it seems my idea is a popular one. Shame that people don't  take advantage of such services, but oh well. Maybe they're too proud to admit they need "proffessional" help? 

I really dunno the answer to that.

[Gotholhorakh]

On the one hand, I'm noot one to wash dirty linen in public.

On the other, the world is full of people who have nobody to talk to or who are unable to engage with other people for one reason or another. Since the advent of very widely adopted web access, lots of the people who stayed alone and silent until crisis point (mental health issues, moral regrets, money worries etc.) can now find people to talk to and somewhere to vent, and even get on with life.

So even though I find it moronic, irritating, vulgar, narcissistic etc. a lot of the time, I think prior to the 90s, lots of people died in/of loneliness and isolation who now wouldn't because there are people to talk to, online.

Modifié par Gotholhorakh, 06 août 2013 - 08:31 .