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[Lokiwithrope]

I know the Blood Pack has been thus far krogan and vorcha exclusive, but I've always thought the batarians would fit right in them. Plenty of batarians are savage fighters, but they're also capable of leading (though that would conflict with krogan superiority) and engineering. Could the Blood Pack have batarian members?

Modifié par Lokiwithrope, 05 août 2013 - 09:42 .

[Reorte]

The MP Blood Pack Mastery challenge has the Batarians included but that's probably more of a case of just chucking them in somewhere. The Blood Pack seem pretty keen on only having krogan and not counting the vorcha so I doubt it. Don't see why you shouldn't end up with some members of any species in Eclipse and the Blue Suns though.

[Forst1999]

I agree with StreetMagic. Now that the leadership apparantly isn't Krogan-only any longer, Batarians might join, but before that, it was a Krogan club with Vorcha pets. Batarians wouldn't have accepted the position the Vorcha were in, but in the new bolld Pack they might feel at home.

[Han Shot First]

StreetMagic wrote...

The blood pack were only Krogan. The vorcha were cannon fodder/a little better than Varren. The only reason the Blood Pack are just Vorcha in ME3 is because clan Weyrloc is dead, and the leftover minions took over.

Although not explicitly stated the Reaper war also likely had a lot to do with that. All of the merc gangs were centered in the Terminus Systems, which got hit first by the Reapers. Its likely that along with the Batarians the merc gangs also suffered heavy casualties in the initial invasion or lost members to indoctrination and/or processing. So you probably had a bunch of Krogan Blood Pack who were either killed in combat or captured and turned into Brutes.
 
In addition to that according to the lore a lot of Krogan mercenaries were returning home to Tuchanka in preparation for the Reapers, so the Blood Pack was probably further depleted of Krogan personnel by those desertions.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 05 août 2013 - 10:26 .

[Display Name Owner]

No reason for Batarians to join the BP, they've got much stronger ties with the Blue Suns. The Suns are the ones the Hegemony funds and that it's people are in control of.

[Cainhurst Crow]

isnudo wrote...

No reason for Batarians to join the BP, they've got much stronger ties with the Blue Suns. The Suns are the ones the Hegemony funds and that it's people are in control of.

Semi-control of, gotta remember to keep those humans and turians happy or you loose your members. Not to mention that twice now, we've seen a human become leader of the suns.

[Vohamoris]

Having in mind that both the vorcha and krogan are extremely ugly, putting the batarians in the MP achievement 'Blood Pack Mastery' is simply common sense. Or maybe they just had to put the batarian characters somewhere and there wasn't enough space in the Outsider section.
Anyways, thinking of the story in ME3, the batarians were the first-to-hit race by the Reapers, with low to none survivors. Then they all focus on preserving their species, not on joining some mercs. So it is only logical they would not rush to join the already weak Blood pack (since clan Weyrloc died). Their biggest aim would be survival (that is what paragon Shepard implies during that talk with the batarian terrorist).
So yeah. Thinking of their ugliness, they would make perfect Blood Pack members, but thinking of their reasoning - they would not go for gang action at all.

[TheIdiocyWizard2.0]

I agree that at this point if the Batarians joined the blood pack they would take it over, which might prove useful to them in the future. Before the Reaper war I highly doubt they would join the blood pack.

[Hey]

it could, yes

[Kel Riever]

For gameplay reasons, I'm sure they were just making the merc groups distinct

For fluff reasons, first, there are probably more than 3 mercenary groups in the galaxy, so it isn't like Batarians only join the Blue Suns and asari only join Eclipse, etc. But the 3 merc groups, if they are large enough, likely have some exceptions even if they are dominated by certain species.

[Sovereign330]

The Blood Pack still have krogan. Gryll was the Blood Pack leader of the vorcha part of the Blood Pack. But would Batarians join? I don't see why they wouldn't Blood Pack lacks in the intelligence division. Need to compete.

[cap and gown]

Kel Riever wrote...

For gameplay reasons, I'm sure they were just making the merc groups distinct

For fluff reasons, first, there are probably more than 3 mercenary groups in the galaxy, so it isn't like Batarians only join the Blue Suns and asari only join Eclipse, etc. But the 3 merc groups, if they are large enough, likely have some exceptions even if they are dominated by certain species.

Sometimes it seems like every tom, dick, and harry has a merc band. Remember that note you get from Corporal Tombs in ME2?

[cap and gown]

Han Shot First wrote...

Although not explicitly stated the Reaper war also likely had a lot to do with that. All of the merc gangs were centered in the Terminus Systems, which got hit first by the Reapers. Its likely that along with the Batarians the merc gangs also suffered heavy casualties in the initial invasion or lost members to indoctrination and/or processing. So you probably had a bunch of Krogan Blood Pack who were either killed in combat or captured and turned into Brutes.
 
In addition to that according to the lore a lot of Krogan mercenaries were returning home to Tuchanka in preparation for the Reapers, so the Blood Pack was probably further depleted of Krogan personnel by those desertions.

A couple of points:

1) The Reapers entered the Milky Way from the opposite end of the galaxy. That is why Karshan got hit first. We hardly have any missions out in the Terminus systems, and most of those seem to deal with Cerberus. Heck, Omega, the hub for the relay network in the Terminus systems is controled by Cerberus, not the Reapers.

2) Mercenaries return to Tuchanka only if Wrex is in charge. (War asset = 75) If you get Wreav you don't get that war asset.

[ImperatorMortis]

 I doubt Batarians would want to be in the Blood Pack. 

Besides they've already got a lot of control in the Blue Suns. 

Modifié par ImperatorMortis, 31 décembre 2013 - 02:58 .

[dgcatanisiri]

ImperatorMortis wrote...

 I doubt Batarians would want to be in the Blood Pack. 

Besides they've already got a lot of control in the Blue Suns. 

This. If a batarian was looking to join a merc gang, they'd likely hit up the Blue Suns first, since they know that batarians regularly end up in high ranking roles there. Why join the Blood Pack, which, at best, is only recently letting in members of non-krogan/vorcha, just to struggle to gain any kind of respect, when you know that you can at least have a chance in the Blue Suns?

[Guanxii]

Bloodpack are a bunch of unorganized savages who provide dumb muscle for hire, Batarians aren't savages and neither are the Blue Suns.

Modifié par Guanxii, 31 décembre 2013 - 10:21 .