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#126
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HNNNG...CULLEN! GIVE US CULLEN! pretty please?

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Parmida wrote...

HNNNG...CULLEN! GIVE US CULLEN! pretty please?



I think I speak for just about everyone when I say we really need you to calm down if you want your opinions taken seriously.

Sorry -- I really just couldn't think of a friendlier way to say that.  Image IPB

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I read nothing about leliana where does the article say that ?

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brushyourteeth wrote...

Parmida wrote...

HNNNG...CULLEN! GIVE US CULLEN! pretty please?



I think I speak for just about everyone when I say we really need you to calm down if you want your opinions taken seriously.

Sorry -- I really just couldn't think of a friendlier way to say that.  Image IPB


LOL! Okay! I'm just full of energy all the time! be thankfull you don't have to live with me else I would have driven you crazy within an hour!:kissing:

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john_sheparrd wrote...

I read nothing about leliana where does the article say that ?


The section where it talk about old faces coming back mention an Orlesian redhead showing up in the game, but she's coming back...if it is only to get ****** off at Cassandra traveling around with Varric when she should be helping the Divine.

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Parmida wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

Parmida wrote...

HNNNG...CULLEN! GIVE US CULLEN! pretty please?



I think I speak for just about everyone when I say we really need you to calm down if you want your opinions taken seriously.

Sorry -- I really just couldn't think of a friendlier way to say that.  Image IPB


LOL! Okay! I'm just full of energy all the time! be thankfull you don't have to live with me else I would have driven you crazy within an hour!:kissing:


It's okay!! You'll learn the longer you're on the BSN that the smarter you sound the more likely it is that people will pay attention. Image IPB

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I'm kinda underwhelmed at the moment with the confirmed companions.

Varric never did much for me. I get that he was supposed to be the snarky comic relief character but for some reason his humor just didn't click with me. I always got the feeling that I was meant to like him a lot more then i actually did. Maybe he just got lost in the muck of DA2.

Having not read the comics or watched the animated movie, my only experience with Cassandra comes from DA2. She came off as a humorless Ice Queen in that game, which doesn't exactly scream happy fun times in DAI. Unless I can spend the whole game poking fun of her uptight nature (though more likely it will just be Varric poking fun of her).

I'm very interested in hearing more about Vivienne, but at a first glance... an extremely pro-circle mage, wearing a genie outfit... Meh.

I hope the armor customization allows for a lot of variety cause I'm not a fan of that look.

Some day the DA team is going to make an appealing Mage outfit and the masses will rejoice.

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Fraq Hound wrote...

Having not read the comics or watched the animated movie, my only experience with Cassandra comes from DA2. She came off as a humorless Ice Queen in that game, which doesn't exactly scream happy fun times in DAI. Unless I can spend the whole game poking fun of her uptight nature (though more likely it will just be Varric poking fun of her).


Cassandra can do humor, the sarcastic deadpan sort. Considering that she's now traveling with Varric, she might not be as uptight as you think...

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azarhal wrote...

Cassandra can do humor, the sarcastic deadpan sort. Considering that she's now traveling with Varric, she might not be as uptight as you think...


I hope your correct.

I'm by no means writing the characters off or saying they shouldn't be in DAI. Just expressing how underwhelmed I am with what little knowledge we've been given. I'm hopeful that Bioware will make me love these characters, just as I'm hopeful that they will make me love Vivienne and her "Unique Appearance".

Though giving us the option to change it wouldn't hurt. :devil:

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I am so stocked varric is back

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brushyourteeth wrote...

We can have Cole as long as he's not romanceable...


How do you have a spirit as a companion and a romance in the first place? The only romance I can imagine is if Cole possesed the inquisitor, and they formed a spiritual bond of some sort.. that could be considered a romance. 

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KainD wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

We can have Cole as long as he's not romanceable...


How do you have a spirit as a companion and a romance in the first place? The only romance I can imagine is if Cole possesed the inquisitor, and they formed a spiritual bond of some sort.. that could be considered a romance. 


Ghost love making.... interesting. 

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I'm really wondering how we'll remember that Cole is even in our party.

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KainD wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

We can have Cole as long as he's not romanceable...


How do you have a spirit as a companion and a romance in the first place? The only romance I can imagine is if Cole possesed the inquisitor, and they formed a spiritual bond of some sort.. that could be considered a romance. 



He and Rhys formed a... bond. They were able to embrace one another. I guess a few people could argue that they wouldn't need the relationship to be physical (but a very few -- people like their sexy times.)

What Cole exactly is is kind of up in the air, though of course everyone has their theories.

Regardless, there have been quite a few people interested in romancing him. Creepy to me not only because there's something demonic happening there (though Anders was probably a gateway drug for that in DAII) but because he has the mental age of about a five year old due to abuse in his childhood. I understand wanting to help the little boy in him (if it still exists) recover and experience love and acceptance, but... not via sex or romance. Just no. Image IPB

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Apparently I'm in the minority, but I'm certainly hoping Cullen is *not* a companion. Have absolutely no problems with him as an NPC tied into the story concerning the Templar side of things; as a representative character of that faction he's perfect. But as a full companion? No. He's just not interesting in the slightest. In Origins he was a paranoid emo Templar. In Dragon Age 2 he pulled his head out of his ass and decided to just be practical about the whole Mage issue, e.g. he doesn't hate them (at least he didn't seem to in my playthrough) but he certainly agrees that Templar authority over the Circle is needed. He's just not okay with abusing mages.

Otherwise he's still a dull character and a waste of a companion space. Wanting him as a party member just because he's "hot" is, well, kind of insipid.

Cassandra has always been an interesting character with quite a few layers of complexity. While the Dragon Age movie was...lackluster at best, it teased her potential (despite the fact that Gaider had no direct involvement in the story). Her role in DA2 painted an interesting picture of the internal conflict she struggles with as a Seeker of Truth. How hard is that role when it seems like *everyone* is lying? If she joins The Inquisition I'd be curious as to how that will affect her oaths and beliefs.

Varric was my M!Hawke's Bro. The Lando Calrissian to his Han Solo. I expect it to be much the same for DAI. So 'woot' for that. Bianca for the win. Let him dazzle the ladies with that chest hair.

Vivienne is...well, as someone who always plays a Mage I'm genuinely pretty excited to see how an Orlesian Mage roles, and one who was being groomed for the First Enchanter's seat at that. The GI article doesn't provide much, but David Gaider gave a rather curious indication of what her personality might be like. When asked if she was anything like Wynne, Gaider's response was, and I quote, "Like Wynne?! HAHAHAHAHA!" Take that as you will. So, needless to say, I think she's going to fill the Mage slot nicely. Plus, can't wait to see if her painted face, crazy ornate Mage outfit as seen in the preview is her final look. Can't imagine my own Mage wearing anything like that, and I'm hoping I get the chance to ask, "Lady, what the hell?"

Given the romance my Warden had with her, and how endearing she was in Origins and how cool her cameos were in Dragon Age 2, I'm looking forward to seeing Leliana again. I wouldn't want her as a companion though. Aside from her time with the Warden and her quest to find herself again and understand her visions and her role under the Maker I feel like, for the most part, her larger story is done.

No reason to have her tagging along in a new party. Let her remain as an agent for the Divine, dancing between factions and Nobles, playing the spy game. Don't need her as a companion to enjoy her having a role in Inquisition. Would be rather cool to learn more from her about what, possibly, happened to my Warden. Even if he died in the Deep Roads trying to stop something or protect something, I'd just like to know. If you romanced her, so too would Leliana, I think.

As for any other possible additions? I can wait and see. Another Kossith sounds interesting, especially when one considers that, under Sten's role as Ari'shok, the Qunari might have undergone some interesting developments. Even if the Kossith in question turns out to be a Tal'Vasoth, he would still have some interesting perspectives to relay. And Cole was an awesome part of Asunder, so he certainly has my vote for  companion slot. 

Modifié par glenboy24, 07 août 2013 - 05:03 .


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brushyourteeth wrote...

He and Rhys formed a... bond. They were able to embrace one another. I guess a few people could argue that they wouldn't need the relationship to be physical (but a very few -- people like their sexy times.)

What Cole exactly is is kind of up in the air, though of course everyone has their theories.

Regardless, there have been quite a few people interested in romancing him. Creepy to me not only because there's something demonic happening there (though Anders was probably a gateway drug for that in DAII) but because he has the mental age of about a five year old due to abuse in his childhood. I understand wanting to help the little boy in him (if it still exists) recover and experience love and acceptance, but... not via sex or romance. Just no. Image IPB


Ok wait.. I haven't read the books. I've read about cole in the wiki, and wiki says that cole is a spirit:
1) Spirits don't have a gender.
2) Don't have a set age.
3) Don't have a human-like mind. 

So cole is not a spirit then.. 

Is he something like Niall? A human mage soul seperated from the body? 

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Plaintiff wrote...

None of the confirmed party members really appeal to me yet. I hope we hear about more soon.


yah steve spoiled all romances for me XD

now I want him in DA I :wizard:

Modifié par Tarek, 07 août 2013 - 05:26 .


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KainD wrote...

brushyourteeth wrote...

He and Rhys formed a... bond. They were able to embrace one another. I guess a few people could argue that they wouldn't need the relationship to be physical (but a very few -- people like their sexy times.)

What Cole exactly is is kind of up in the air, though of course everyone has their theories.

Regardless, there have been quite a few people interested in romancing him. Creepy to me not only because there's something demonic happening there (though Anders was probably a gateway drug for that in DAII) but because he has the mental age of about a five year old due to abuse in his childhood. I understand wanting to help the little boy in him (if it still exists) recover and experience love and acceptance, but... not via sex or romance. Just no. Image IPB


Ok wait.. I haven't read the books. I've read about cole in the wiki, and wiki says that cole is a spirit:
1) Spirits don't have a gender.
2) Don't have a set age.
3) Don't have a human-like mind. 

So cole is not a spirit then.. 

Is he something like Niall? A human mage soul seperated from the body? 



Cole is.... ugh. Okay, anyone who doesn't want to know --- just don't read further.






SPOILERS ABOUT COLE BELOW




Everyone kind of has a different way they choose to interpret Cole, so I'll give the facts from the book and let you make up your own mind.

Cole appears to be a young man, probably not in his 20's yet, with hair long enough to get in his face and wearing filthy leathers. He always has a dagger (maybe two, I can't remember) on him. He was brought to the Circle in Orlais and left in a holding cell in the bottom of the tower and forgotten there. In his fear he begged for someone, anyone, to help him. He has some human memories and seems to experience love and empathy. Mostly a lot of fear. There are legends about him in the tower, since every now and then he can be spotted, but mostly he's completely invisible to the mages and Templars in the tower. Both Genevieve (a Templar) and Lambert (a Seeker) sense him when he's in their presence. Rhys (a mage) who has an affinity for communicating with Fade spirits can pretty much always see Cole. Others soon forget about him completely even after they've met him. From time to time, Cole feels like he is slipping away and losing his physical grip on the world, and uses his dagger to murder one of the mages. Some fans insist that these killings were motivated by mercy, but I didn't see any particular evidence of that when I read. Once Cole finishes the murder he feels centered in the physical world again. He does begin to have some control over who can see him and who can't, and when. Throughout the story, Cole is very fearful of others, very fearful of losing Rhys' friendship, and very developmentally delayed on an emotional level (like someone who has rarely interacted with others socially.) At one point in the story, Cole and the other characters are taken into the Fade and Cole relives some terrible memories about the abuse he suffered as a child from his father. It's... horrifying (though maybe made worse by the demon that is reinacting it). In the memory, Cole holds tight to his mother's dagger and accidentally kills his little sister while trying to keep her hidden from their father in a cupboard (this is done by strangulation, not with the dagger.) While in the Fade, everyone can see him and finally believe Rhys that he exists. Later Lambert uses the Litany of Adralla on Cole (which only works to dispel blood magic) and Cole looks at Rhys sadly and disappears. Later he comes to Lambert in the tower and says that he found the boy Cole in the tower when everyone else forgot him. It's implied that he uses his dagger to kill Lambert. Rhys then later says some things that seem to imply that he always knew what Cole was deep down (not a normal spirit).

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Foopydoopydoo wrote...

WHAT ABOUT COLE THO?!


YES! I loved Cole in the book and I really hope he makes an appearance in Inquisition. I love damaged characters :innocent:

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Your talk of possible companions is cute. Might as well add those speculative companions people named months ago. 

Right now i'm content with the three we know, and the possibility for six to nine more later. Truth be told, i'm hoping for the latter.

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brushyourteeth wrote...
SPOILERS ABOUT COLE BELOW

Everyone kind of has a different way they choose to interpret Cole, so I'll give the facts from the book and let you make up your own mind.

Cole appears to be a young man, probably not in his 20's yet, with hair long enough to get in his face and wearing filthy leathers. He always has a dagger (maybe two, I can't remember) on him. He was brought to the Circle in Orlais and left in a holding cell in the bottom of the tower and forgotten there. In his fear he begged for someone, anyone, to help him. He has some human memories and seems to experience love and empathy. Mostly a lot of fear. There are legends about him in the tower, since every now and then he can be spotted, but mostly he's completely invisible to the mages and Templars in the tower. Both Genevieve (a Templar) and Lambert (a Seeker) sense him when he's in their presence. Rhys (a mage) who has an affinity for communicating with Fade spirits can pretty much always see Cole. Others soon forget about him completely even after they've met him. From time to time, Cole feels like he is slipping away and losing his physical grip on the world, and uses his dagger to murder one of the mages. Some fans insist that these killings were motivated by mercy, but I didn't see any particular evidence of that when I read. Once Cole finishes the murder he feels centered in the physical world again. He does begin to have some control over who can see him and who can't, and when. Throughout the story, Cole is very fearful of others, very fearful of losing Rhys' friendship, and very developmentally delayed on an emotional level (like someone who has rarely interacted with others socially.) At one point in the story, Cole and the other characters are taken into the Fade and Cole relives some terrible memories about the abuse he suffered as a child from his father. It's... horrifying (though maybe made worse by the demon that is reinacting it). In the memory, Cole holds tight to his mother's dagger and accidentally kills his little sister while trying to keep her hidden from their father in a cupboard (this is done by strangulation, not with the dagger.) Later Lambert uses the Litany of Adralla on Cole (which only works to dispel blood magic) and Cole looks at Rhys sadly and disappears. Later he comes to Lambert in the tower and says that he found the boy Cole in the tower when everyone else forgot him. It's implied that he uses his dagger to kill Lambert. Rhys then later says some things that seem to imply that he always knew what Cole was deep down (not a normal spirit).


:blink:

Ok, now I have no idea what so ever about what the hell Cole is. 

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KainD wrote...


:blink:

Ok, now I have no idea what so ever about what the hell Cole is. 



I know!!  Image IPB

There was... a person. A spirit or demon. Some blood magic. That seems to be about all we can be sure of.

In the final paragraph of the book he seems... aware of what he is and comfortable with it. He smiles for what might be the first time, although in kind of a creepy way. He has Cole's memories and suffers from them, but he also says he held Cole's hand while he died in that cell since everyone else forgot about him. Dunno.

But definitely not as simple as just "spirit."


EDIT: Oh, and he's also completely asexual as far as the book tells. He even watches Evangeline undress without any arousal involved (though could be gay, but no sign of that either). More like... childlike.

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brushyourteeth wrote...

KainD wrote...


:blink:

Ok, now I have no idea what so ever about what the hell Cole is. 



I know!!  Image IPB

There was... a person. A spirit or demon. Some blood magic. That seems to be about all we can be sure of.

In the final paragraph of the book he seems... aware of what he is and comfortable with it. He smiles for what might be the first time, although in kind of a creepy way. He has Cole's memories and suffers from them, but he also says he held Cole's hand while he died in that cell since everyone else forgot about him. Dunno.

But definitely not as simple as just "spirit."

EDIT: Oh, and he's also completely asexual as far as the book tells. He even watches Evangeline undress without any arousal involved (though could be gay, but no sign of that either). More like... childlike.


Yeah...no offense but him as a companion is a bit out there.

Then again there always is a sort of "freak" in the series, like Justice and Shale...

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I hope we get a female dwarf companion, preferably a warrior. At this point, I'm doubting their existence. Perhaps Sigrun was a figment of my imagination. A Qunari/Tal-Vashoth female rogue is also on my list. I like my women to be really short or really tall.

A male elf mage companion would be an ideal addition to the team, since we've never had one outside of DLC (Sketch).

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As far as i remember Lambert didn't die... i mean we can't be sure what happen to him ;)

Modifié par Argahawk, 07 août 2013 - 07:09 .