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[funmachine]

I think making Morrigan the big bad all of a sudden would be very detrimental to her character development in DA:O. I really don't see it happening, nor would I like it. (Though to be fair that's a rather stupid thing to say when you barely know a thing about the story. Who knows what the devs would think of for her story after the blight...) Will she be involved in some seriously morally grey situations? Definitely. Morrigan was all about making harsh calls, but never in a moustache-twirlingly evil way. I'd expect - and hope for - more of the same from her.

[Weskerr]

Say it ain't so, David. Say it ain't so.

[Potato Cat]

I think its going to be Vengeance actually. Gaider's confirmation he can appear with or without Anders makes him really suspect. That and I doubt there's a mortal stupid enough, other than Anders, to want to first open the Veil in the first place and then actively work against the Inquisition. And of course, Vengeance did start the whole thing, why not make him even more to blame?

[Marakov7]

Well, I guess if Morrigan is "the Big Bad," my Inquisitor is gonna be going rogue and join her side. My Warden would have it no other way...

[XGrlGamerX]

Sometimes I feel like poor Morrigan needs an appreciation thread. haha

[Medhia Nox]

Tranquilizing Morrigan would be so amazingly delicious.

Her "becoming" a villain is redundant for me.

It would be more - calling her out on her bullsh-t.

[Bekkael]

Elfman wrote...

I think its going to be Vengeance actually. Gaider's confirmation he can appear with or without Anders makes him really suspect. That and I doubt there's a mortal stupid enough, other than Anders, to want to first open the Veil in the first place and then actively work against the Inquisition. And of course, Vengeance did start the whole thing, why not make him even more to blame?

If it is him, I sure hope he got a new ride. I don't want to see him in Anders' body, that's for sure.

[Frozenkex]

Personally, i dont want Morrigan nor Flemeth to be big bad evil villains at any point. I prefer them to be sort of neutral powerful beings with their own agendas, none of which are world domination or massacre.

Instead imagine a dragon age game comes out 10 years from now and Flemeth still keeps making an appearance. Witches of the wild shall live forevah!

[Gewehr_fr]

"Will you stand against it ?" -> Implying that's what she wants you to do.

"Or leave/lead this world to its bitter end." -> What Morrigan believes to happen if you refuse her help.

That will be something along those lines.

I believe Flemeth wants the return of the old gods, going back to the times when they were ruling the world and worshiped by the lesser races. I don't know what she is exactly; perhaps an "Old God Baby" herself. Morrigan will stand against her, therefore being on the "good" side, but also has presumably an ambition of her own, putting her in a grey area.

It could also be the other way around but I highly doubt it. Or something else entirely, of course.

Modifié par Gewehr_fr, 07 août 2013 - 01:48 .

[XGrlGamerX]

Gewehr_fr wrote...

"Will you stand against it ?" -> Implying that's what she wants you to do.

"Or leave/lead this world to its bitter end." -> What Morrigan believes to happen if you refuse her help.

That will be something along those lines.

I believe Flemeth wants the return of the old gods, going back to the times when they were ruling the world and worshiped by the lesser races. I don't know what she is exactly; perhaps an "Old God Baby" herself. Morrigan will stand against her, therefore being on the "good" side, but also has presumably an ambition of her own, putting her in a grey area.

It could also be the other way around but I highly doubt it. Or something else entirely, of course.

That's what I gathered from her intonation too. 

Modifié par XGrlGamerX, 07 août 2013 - 02:47 .

[Urazz]

Han Shot First wrote...

Assuming Morrigan is the big bad, how many of your Inquisitors would spare her, and how many would kill her?

Also assuming that both are options of course.

It really depends on what she's doing and why and what the costs are if I agree with her ultimate goal.

As it stands though, I don't think it makes sense for Morrigan to be the villain unless it's to do with her going too far to stop Flemeth.

XGrlGamerX wrote...

Gewehr_fr wrote...

"Will you stand against it ?" -> Implying that's what she wants you to do.

"Or leave/lead this world to its bitter end." -> What Morrigan believes to happen if you refuse her help.

That will be something along those lines.

I believe Flemeth wants the return of the old gods, going back to the times when they were ruling the world and worshiped by the lesser races. I don't know what she is exactly; perhaps an "Old God Baby" herself. Morrigan will stand against her, therefore being on the "good" side, but also has presumably an ambition of her own, putting her in a grey area.

It could also be the other way around but I highly doubt it. Or something else entirely, of course.

That what I gathered from her intonation too. 

Me too as well.

Modifié par Urazz, 07 août 2013 - 02:09 .

[PlasmaCheese]

If Morrigan helps the Inquisitor, I hope we get a chance to kill her. Just like what she asked us to do to Flemeth, a woman who did nothing but be weird and helpful. I would love that. Big Bad or no.

[LethesDeep]

I disagree. Right now I think it's Flemeth. She's mysterious enough that we know nearly nothing about her, so it's entirely possible that she has some redeeming qualities. She also is a good manipulator, so I think we'll be seeing some Jade Empire-level manipulation of you, Morrigan, or both. Beyond that in the trailer Morrigan sounds worried when she delivers the "or lead it to it's bitter end" line -however, that was marketing, so I don't believe the implied characterization carries over into the game.

Morrigan's too easy a twist and most people will think it's her. I fully expect her to be a bit of a red herring - she'll have her own agenda that will, depending on your agenda, mean she opposes you, vaguely helps you in an antagonistic way, or both. This will make her out to be the big bad, but as you progress you learn her agenda as well as the big bad's and they won't match up. Instead, you and Morrigan will have been used as pawns by the real big bad: Flemeth.

Modifié par LethesDeep, 07 août 2013 - 02:11 .

[phunx]

Please no.

Modifié par phunx, 07 août 2013 - 02:27 .

[Foolsfolly]

Elfman wrote...

I think its going to be Vengeance actually. Gaider's confirmation he can appear with or without Anders makes him really suspect. That and I doubt there's a mortal stupid enough, other than Anders, to want to first open the Veil in the first place and then actively work against the Inquisition. And of course, Vengeance did start the whole thing, why not make him even more to blame?

Vengence is back?

By the Maker how many times must I kill that parasite?

Fine. Once more. I will kill Vengeance and hope this time it sticks.

That said, I don't think it's Vengeance at all. The sundering of the Veil doesn't really strike me as Vengeance's deal. Maybe so he can punish the mortals with spirits? But it seems more demons than spirits escaped the Fade. (Which makes sense since apparently Spirits don't want to experience the mortal world. Although, I bet we'll meet a few Spirits throughout the game.)

I still think Morrigan/Flemeth. The return of the dragons, the fact that the world once had no Veil and now that's destroyed. It just speaks more to those two than anyone else we know. Of course the big bad could be someone we don't know. Some Tevinter Magister Blood Mage/Reaver cult leader who wishes to bend all existence to his will.

But that's boring. It's more interesting when the bad guy's someone we already know.

[Bourne Endeavor]

Foolsfolly wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Foolsfolly wrote...

Elfman wrote...

Hopefully, the Big Bad's are always the best ones. (Unless its Adam)

Ugh. And he was barely even in the season! He felt like an after thought in his own damn season!

Glory and the Mayor for the win.

I didn't like Glory much myself.

Season 2 had the best Big Bads.

Glory was hilarious! And "Does Ben know?" was a joke with my friends for like 8 years after the fact! But yeah, the Mayor was fantastic. Season 2 was Angel. My bad. He was good. ...it's hard to remember him as a bad guy. I blame the spin off.

...

...on topic, I do believe it'll be Morrigan. Maybe we'll even get a Flemeth/Morrigan scene where Flemeth gives Morrigan a little sympathy. She's a little girl playing at Old God designs (there's no way Flemeth isn't an Old God.)

Angelus was epic. How you can forget the depth of mind screwery he was willing to go? It may be because I rewatched the early series early this year though.

The Mayor though was utterly hilarious.

OT, but it's been ages since I could talk about that series.

On topic, Morrigan as the big bad would certainly be an interesting twist. Although, I do wonder if it could be that offspring of hers. Is it not implied she competes the ritual regardless of the Warden's assistance? We can fight Warden junior!

Modifié par Bourne Endeavor, 07 août 2013 - 03:09 .

[Angrywolves]

Weird stuff from the fans.
They want to kill Morrigan.
They want to kill Flemeth.
If it's a choice matter I won't do it.Lot's of players won't and we get back to bickering about what's canon and who has been retconned again when it's time for DA4.
I would hope Bioware would want to avoid that.
But then maybe the game after DAI is so far in the future for them they're not worried about future inconsistencies.

[Frozenkex]

I dont understand why people want to kill off those awesome, badass, iconic characters.

[H. Birdman]

Random shot in the dark:

It's a choice of big bads. A Quarian/Geth type scenario. Side with Flemeth and kill Morrigan/OGB to preserve some kind of flawed-but-tolerable status quo. Side with Morrigan and kill Flemeth (for real this time) to break the status quo in favor of something promising but risky/costly.

Even if I'm wrong about the choice being between Flemeth and Morrigan, I'd put twenty bucks on a major binary choice as to the final antagonist. Too many dichotomies floating around to just say "Here's the one TRUE source of evil; now kill it!"

[Plaintiff]

Seriously, seriously doubt it.

[Kalas Magnus]

I hope that we can join her.

I still feel bad that the illusive man didnt want me.

[Kalas Magnus]

Bekkael wrote...

Elfman wrote...

I think its going to be Vengeance actually. Gaider's confirmation he can appear with or without Anders makes him really suspect. That and I doubt there's a mortal stupid enough, other than Anders, to want to first open the Veil in the first place and then actively work against the Inquisition. And of course, Vengeance did start the whole thing, why not make him even more to blame?

If it is him, I sure hope he got a new ride. I don't want to see him in Anders' body, that's for sure.

Velanna, I hope. I read she was the first choice for da2. Then got replaced with anders. 

[Shaftell]

No...I don't think this will happen. She's too popular. It's like making Leliana as a main villain. I really think there will be a new villain. But I most likely think Flemeth's goals will be the red herring. The PC thinking she's bad the entire time, when she's not.

[ArenCordial]

I wouldn't be surprised if Morrigan is actively trying counter Flemeth. That said I wouldn't be surprised if Morrigan doesn't know as much as she thinks she knows. I doubt she's the bad guy, Morrigan is playing her own game and try to spin these events to her advantage. Same with Flemeth.