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#126
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KaiserShep wrote...

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Mobile apps are irrelevant. I was addressing an obviously sarcastic comment regarding smaller scale stories and how they can fit into a Mass Effect game.


 So one of the strongest markets within gaming is irrelivent is it, that infiltraor is a very good game. That side cameo games EXACTLY like the ones they suggested are perfect for the mobile market, of which isnt relegated to mobile phones somehow lessons the game.

   The only snide or sarcastic thing here is you suggesting it was sarcasm when stating that these types of games are irrelivent in this current computer and mobile gaming age. To which i am fully able to believe you had never even tried or heard of this game up until this point and thus do not understand the merits of games such as these or the power that mobile devices currently hold for gaming.



You diminished the merits of a small scale story by reducing it to something only really worth putting into a Mass Effect mobile app, only to turn around and try to respond to my objection to this by arguing the merits of mobile apps.

The troll is strong with this one.


 And again your assumption that mobile games are tiny and irrelivent is showing exactly everything you know about the gaming market and some of the great games within the mobile market.

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KaiserShep wrote...

The troll is strong with this one.


Imagine if he was for real. Yikes. But really, it doesn't matter. Whether a post is a troll post or not, you respond the same way.

Modifié par AlanC9, 08 août 2013 - 07:36 .


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moater boat wrote...

I disagree with your "any press is good press" theory. Maybe that was true in the past, but these days information is readily available on the internet, and if anyone does become interested in what the fuss is all about will easily find any number of videos or articles that go into painstaking detail of the total failure.


i agree to disagree. i know at least two people who didnt get me3 because they "heard the ending sucked"

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 The fact you think im taking you seriously gives great amusment. Not only are you not able to follow a debate, you seem to think that jumping into someone elses debate gives you strength somehow. And your fuzzy memory is that bad i think i should start calling you murdoch. So which game were we talking about ooo i forgot is it the nnext main mass effect trilogy.


Don't worry. Taking you seriously isn't the point.

You really want me to recap the debate for you?


 Ow ill recap it for you,

ME=Do you think Bioware will put a canon ending into the game if they make a sequel
Other=maybe but its a hard thing todo
ME=what are the limiations on a sequel if they dont create a canon ending for 3
Other=unknown 
Kieser=prequels are better
Me=sequels are easier
keiser=no they arnt
ME=actualy they are as no history is written for the future is a blank slate to work from--
Keiser=no its not
Alan=I want to play something totaly different in the next mass effect
ME=If you want different maybe a dif ME game is better or a dif game all together--
Alan=FU dont tell me what todo--
Keiser=Prequels dont have tobe main story games-
Me=Apps games are better for that-
Keiser=App games are irrelivent, ME wouldnt do one-
Me=ME has one -shows proof
Keiser<Invject snobbery> apps games are irrelivent, its insulting to even suggest it.
Alan= no one listens to you
Me=do you think i work for EA
Alan=dont care its the game i want and you cant tell me want i can and cant have
ME= (sits wondering why they think i have that power
Keiser= Apps games are irrelivent
Me=no they arnt, they are the biggest growing market within gaming
Alan= want me to recap
Keiser= there a troll apps are rubish
Alan= Ye imagine if this stuff was real

And now we are here. Did i miss anything out.

Modifié par shingara, 08 août 2013 - 07:38 .


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shingara wrote...
 Ow ill recap it for you,

ME=Do you think Bioware will put a canon ending into the game if they make a sequel
Other=maybe but its a hard thing todo
ME=what are the limiations on a sequel if they dont create a canon ending for 3
Other=unknown 
Kieser=prequels are better
Me=sequels are easier
keiser=no they arnt
ME=actualy they are as no history is written for the future is a blank slate to work from--
Keiser=no its not
Alan=I want to play something totaly different in the next mass effect
ME=If you want different maybe a dif ME game is better or a dif game all together--
Alan=FU dont tell me what todo--
Keiser=Prequels dont have tobe main story games-
Me=Apps games are better for that-
Keiser=App games are irrelivent, ME wouldnt do one-
Me=ME has one -shows proof
Keiser<Invject snobbery> apps games are irrelivent, its insulting to even suggest it.
Alan= no one listens to you
Me=do you think i work for EA
Alan=dont care its the game i want and you cant tell me wantr i can and cant have
ME= (sits wondering why they think i have that power
Keiser= Apps games are irrelivent
Me=no they arnt, they are the biggest growing market within gaming
Alan= want me to recap
Keiser= there a troll apps are rubish
Alan= Ye imagine if this stuff was real

And now we are here. Did i miss anything out.


No. You told some blatant lies, but that's not quite the same thing.

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AlanC9 wrote...

shingara wrote...
 Ow ill recap it for you,

ME=Do you think Bioware will put a canon ending into the game if they make a sequel
Other=maybe but its a hard thing todo
ME=what are the limiations on a sequel if they dont create a canon ending for 3
Other=unknown 
Kieser=prequels are better
Me=sequels are easier
keiser=no they arnt
ME=actualy they are as no history is written for the future is a blank slate to work from--
Keiser=no its not
Alan=I want to play something totaly different in the next mass effect
ME=If you want different maybe a dif ME game is better or a dif game all together--
Alan=FU dont tell me what todo--
Keiser=Prequels dont have tobe main story games-
Me=Apps games are better for that-
Keiser=App games are irrelivent, ME wouldnt do one-
Me=ME has one -shows proof
Keiser<Invject snobbery> apps games are irrelivent, its insulting to even suggest it.
Alan= no one listens to you
Me=do you think i work for EA
Alan=dont care its the game i want and you cant tell me wantr i can and cant have
ME= (sits wondering why they think i have that power
Keiser= Apps games are irrelivent
Me=no they arnt, they are the biggest growing market within gaming
Alan= want me to recap
Keiser= there a troll apps are rubish
Alan= Ye imagine if this stuff was real

And now we are here. Did i miss anything out.


No. You told some blatant lies, but that's not quite the same thing.


 really what blatant lies are those exactly ?

#132
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shingara, you seem to be unable to understand (or simply unwilling to acknowledge) that something being referred to as irrelevant to a discussion does not necessarily mean that it's being referred to as irrelevant in general.

Modifié par KaiserShep, 08 août 2013 - 07:49 .


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shingara wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

shingara wrote...
 Ow ill recap it for you,

ME=Do you think Bioware will put a canon ending into the game if they make a sequel
Other=maybe but its a hard thing todo
ME=what are the limiations on a sequel if they dont create a canon ending for 3
Other=unknown 
Kieser=prequels are better
Me=sequels are easier
keiser=no they arnt
ME=actualy they are as no history is written for the future is a blank slate to work from--
Keiser=no its not
Alan=I want to play something totaly different in the next mass effect
ME=If you want different maybe a dif ME game is better or a dif game all together--
Alan=FU dont tell me what todo--
Keiser=Prequels dont have tobe main story games-
Me=Apps games are better for that-
Keiser=App games are irrelivent, ME wouldnt do one-
Me=ME has one -shows proof
Keiser<Invject snobbery> apps games are irrelivent, its insulting to even suggest it.
Alan= no one listens to you
Me=do you think i work for EA
Alan=dont care its the game i want and you cant tell me wantr i can and cant have
ME= (sits wondering why they think i have that power
Keiser= Apps games are irrelivent
Me=no they arnt, they are the biggest growing market within gaming
Alan= want me to recap
Keiser= there a troll apps are rubish
Alan= Ye imagine if this stuff was real

And now we are here. Did i miss anything out.


No. You told some blatant lies, but that's not quite the same thing.


 really what blatant lies are those exactly ?


All the ones from me except the italed one are false. However, some of them seem to be due to poor reading comprehension rather than you making stuff up.

A couple of yours don't match what you actually said either, though some of your posts are so  confused that what you have in the summary may very well be what you actually meant to say. Those wouldn't be lies either, I suppose.

Modifié par AlanC9, 08 août 2013 - 07:47 .


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AlanC9 wrote...

shingara wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

shingara wrote...
 Ow ill recap it for you,

ME=Do you think Bioware will put a canon ending into the game if they make a sequel
Other=maybe but its a hard thing todo
ME=what are the limiations on a sequel if they dont create a canon ending for 3
Other=unknown 
Kieser=prequels are better
Me=sequels are easier
keiser=no they arnt
ME=actualy they are as no history is written for the future is a blank slate to work from--
Keiser=no its not
Alan=I want to play something totaly different in the next mass effect
ME=If you want different maybe a dif ME game is better or a dif game all together--
Alan=FU dont tell me what todo--
Keiser=Prequels dont have tobe main story games-
Me=Apps games are better for that-
Keiser=App games are irrelivent, ME wouldnt do one-
Me=ME has one -shows proof
Keiser<Invject snobbery> apps games are irrelivent, its insulting to even suggest it.
Alan= no one listens to you
Me=do you think i work for EA
Alan=dont care its the game i want and you cant tell me wantr i can and cant have
ME= (sits wondering why they think i have that power
Keiser= Apps games are irrelivent
Me=no they arnt, they are the biggest growing market within gaming
Alan= want me to recap
Keiser= there a troll apps are rubish
Alan= Ye imagine if this stuff was real

And now we are here. Did i miss anything out.


No. You told some blatant lies, but that's not quite the same thing.


 really what blatant lies are those exactly ?


All the ones from me except the italed one are false. However, some of them seem to be due to poor reading comprehension rather than you making stuff up.

A couple of yours don't match what you actually said either, though some of your posts are so  confused that what you have in the summary may very well be what you actually meant to say. Those wouldn't be lies, I suppose.


 So you do want to play a mass effect game where you are saving the universe in some way, You didnt tell me that no one listen to me and that what i say is irrelevant. that it doesnt matter what i say you can have the game you want and argue for no reason at all against anyone who says different to you on the subject of the game you wish.

 That you did infact interject into a debate on the attack without understanding what had come before, or infact the standing i was coming from?

Modifié par shingara, 08 août 2013 - 07:50 .


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shingara, you seem to be unable to understand (or simply unwilling to acknowledge) that something being referred to as irrelevant to a discussion does not necessarily mean that it's being referred to as irrelevant in general.


 Hmm and would the irrelivent thing in a debate between 2 people on the consequences of the endings on any future sequel infact be stating that prequels are better, how does it help to understand what could happen to a sequel with the endings we have now by thinking about a prequel?

 Also does trying to undermine and attack the most growing market with games which is the mobile gaming platforms and a mass effect game that already exists upon the mobile gaming market which shows how tie up games can be accomplished in the sense of further exploration of the mass effect universe at this time as they would not have as great an impact as a mainstream trilogy title would have.

 Be it due to the limitations of where a trilogy could be set within the current and pre current timeframe of mass effect and yet still have a fresh and solid feeling of not quite knowing of what is going to happen next ?

Modifié par shingara, 08 août 2013 - 07:57 .


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ME3 is still a great game, despite the ending. It's fun as hell to play and the multiplayer is bizarrely addicting. BioWare did okay, but I won't be buying anymore of their products, maybe some rentals or barrows but no more buying BW for me.

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shingara wrote...
 So you do want to play a mass effect game where you are saving the universe in some way, You didnt tell me that no one listen to me and that what i say is irrelevant. that it doesnt matter what i say you can have the game you want and argue for no reason at all against anyone who says different to you on the subject of the game you wish.


I asked if your position was that ME games had to involve saving the galaxy. You asked me if I would play a game where we don't save the universe. I answered yes, and in fact I'd prefer it. I did not bring it up out of the blue. You then got into a weird bit about what a ME game is; I'm still not sure what point you were trying to prove with that.

I said that I didn't think your opinions were important because you asked me " on this note do you have an illusion that i work for EA or Bioware. it is confusing as you seem to think that i have the power to veto a prequel or that you trying to convince me a prequel is better some how strengthens your case with Bioware or EA." I replied that this was ridiculous, and I believed no such thing. Again, you brought it up.

As for arguing for no reason at all, the reason is that you were making a bad argument:

 That you did infact interject into a debate on the attack without understanding what had come before, or infact the standing i was coming from?


Here's what you posted, again:

 ow thats weak, very very weak. Lets do this in laymans terms so you might possibly understand it. How do i explain this to you hmm.

 You   Want    To    Implant     A     New    Person     Into     History    Who     Does     Nothing      At    All.

Because that is the only way your going to play a person who isnt within the codex or a covered char without them being covered already.


It still makes no sense.

Modifié par AlanC9, 08 août 2013 - 08:08 .


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AlanC9 wrote...

shingara wrote...
 So you do want to play a mass effect game where you are saving the universe in some way, You didnt tell me that no one listen to me and that what i say is irrelevant. that it doesnt matter what i say you can have the game you want and argue for no reason at all against anyone who says different to you on the subject of the game you wish.


I asked if your position was that ME games had to involve saving the galaxy. You asked me if I prefer a game where we don't save the universe. I answered yes. I did not bring it up out of the blue. You then got into a weird bit about what a ME game is; I'm still not sure what point you were trying to prove with that.

I said that I didn't think your opinions were important because you asked me " on this note do you have an illusion that i work for EA or Bioware. it is confusing as you seem to think that i have the power to veto a prequel or that you trying to convince me a prequel is better some how strengthens your case with Bioware or EA." I replied that this was ridiculous, and I believed no such thing.

As for arguing for no reason at all, the reason is that you were making a bad argument:

 That you did infact interject into a debate on the attack without understanding what had come before, or infact the standing i was coming from?


Here's what you posted, again:

 ow thats weak, very very weak. Lets do this in laymans terms so you might possibly understand it. How do i explain this to you hmm.

 You   Want    To    Implant     A     New    Person     Into     History    Who     Does     Nothing      At    All.

Because that is the only way your going to play a person who isnt within the codex or a covered char without them being covered already.


It still makes no sense.


 First off all that isnt what i posted first, it might be what you see first but it is far from my first posting within here. Whilst debating the limitations on a sequel by the 4 endings of ME3 it was stated that a prequel would be better.

 And now see if this is wrong or not. I stated that to inject a new charcter within the pre history can be overshadowed by sheaprd being within this time frame, that players would want interaction with shepard. That no matter what you are doing you know exactly what is going to happen, obviously through 1-4 options.

 I then stated to inject a character to a prior time could very well not be able to sustain a new trilogy which is what they have stated they wish to have and yet have remained hidden within the codex, ingame history or the books and comics.


 NOW i also stated that the easiest way to create a new trilogy without knowing anything thats going to happen is to create it in the future, with the obvious previous example that was being discussed prior that they would have to create 1 solid canon ending for the to exists and the obvious ramifications.


 And i have stated on multiple occasions, not all mass effect games have tobe saving the galaxy in some way BUT for a solid trilogy, able to stand on its own two feet against the original trilogy it is going to have to be something rather epic on its own terms. this would require the writers (of which we dont have a lead writer yet) to have free reign on how the story is written without any limitations of current events happening within that time frame and no chance of conflict with shepard that could cause player revolt eg demading sheaprd interaction.

 And i suggest you read what i was replying to to understand why i replied the way i did. So is that better now ?

Modifié par shingara, 08 août 2013 - 08:13 .


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shingara wrote...

 Hmm and would the irrelivent thing in a debate between 2 people on the consequences of the endings on any future sequel infact be stating that prequels are better, how does it help to understand what could happen to a sequel with the endings we have now by thinking about a prequel?

 Also does trying to undermine and attack the most growing market with games which is the mobile gaming platforms and a mass effect game that already exists upon the mobile gaming market which shows how tie up games can be accomplished in the sense of further exploration of the mass effect universe at this time as they would not have as great an impact as a mainstream trilogy title would have.

 Be it due to the limitations of where a trilogy could be set within the current and pre current timeframe of mass effect and yet still have a fresh and solid feeling of not quite knowing of what is going to happen next ?


None of this addresses what I was saying, so I think I'm going to let my good friend Sovereign do the talking now.


Modifié par KaiserShep, 08 août 2013 - 08:14 .


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KaiserShep wrote...

shingara wrote...

 Hmm and would the irrelivent thing in a debate between 2 people on the consequences of the endings on any future sequel infact be stating that prequels are better, how does it help to understand what could happen to a sequel with the endings we have now by thinking about a prequel?

 Also does trying to undermine and attack the most growing market with games which is the mobile gaming platforms and a mass effect game that already exists upon the mobile gaming market which shows how tie up games can be accomplished in the sense of further exploration of the mass effect universe at this time as they would not have as great an impact as a mainstream trilogy title would have.

 Be it due to the limitations of where a trilogy could be set within the current and pre current timeframe of mass effect and yet still have a fresh and solid feeling of not quite knowing of what is going to happen next ?


None of this addresses what I was saying, so I think I'm going to let my good friend Sovereign do the talking now.




 Sorry but the only thing you are saying is prequel are better ow and apps are poo.

Modifié par shingara, 08 août 2013 - 08:14 .


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I said neither. I hate prequels and use plenty of apps, but both of these things are irrelevant because they have nothing to do with small or large scale plots.

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Dr. Megaverse wrote...

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....Many people no longer want to be the defacto Savior of the Galaxy against an impossible force.


You don't speak for me. Supposing your opinion is universal, or even majoritarian, also seems foolhardy. 

who ever said I was speaking for you? I never said everybody doesn't have their own opinion. I simply stated a fact: many people do not want to be Shepard or Shepard 2.0

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shingara wrote...


 ow thats weak, very very weak. Lets do this in laymans terms so you might possibly understand it. How do i explain this to you hmm.

 You   Want    To    Implant     A     New    Person     Into     History    Who     Does     Nothing      At    All.

Because that is the only way your going to play a person who isnt within the codex or a covered char without them being covered already.

 And a fresh start requires nothing old within, so jog on.




I never said we should play as a "nobody" who does "nothing at all". You act as if the codex and novels cover every hero that has ever existed in the 30 years between the First Contact War and the Shepard Trilogy. But the fact is, they havent. Plain and simple.


I'm well aware of what a fresh start is. It's a new protagonist. A new cast of characters. A new villain. A new adventure.

And as far as fresh starts go, you should probably get used to it. Bioware has already stated that they're done with Shepard and the next protagonist will be different. Specifically, he wont be "Shepard 2.0"

Modifié par Mcfly616, 08 août 2013 - 08:30 .


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shingara wrote...

 First off all that isnt what i posted first, it might be what you see first but it is far from my first posting within here. Whilst debating the limitations on a sequel by the 4 endings of ME3 it was stated that a prequel would be better.

 And now see if this is wrong or not. I stated that to inject a new charcter within the pre history can be overshadowed by sheaprd being within this time frame, that players would want interaction with shepard. That no matter what you are doing you know exactly what is going to happen, obviously through 1-4 options.

 I then stated to inject a character to a prior time could very well not be able to sustain a new trilogy which is what they have stated they wish to have and yet have remained hidden within the codex, ingame history or the books and comics.


The post I responded to did not say that. I questioned if the post was overblown rhetoric. You could have just said "yes, it was overblown rhetoric," you know. You might want to start by telling that to McFly616, since it looks like he's taking the post seriously too.

 And i have stated on multiple occasions, not all mass effect games have tobe saving the galaxy in some way BUT for a solid trilogy, able to stand on its own two feet against the original trilogy it is going to have to be something rather epic on its own terms. this would require the writers (of which we dont have a lead writer yet) to have free reign on how the story is written without any limitations of current events happening within that time frame and no chance of conflict with shepard that could cause player revolt eg demading sheaprd interaction.


Which takes us back to the question of how "epic" such a game has to be. You still haven't given your position. Does it really involve saving the galaxy? If not, then how much "epic" is enough?

Modifié par AlanC9, 08 août 2013 - 08:30 .


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AlanC9 wrote...

shingara wrote...

 First off all that isnt what i posted first, it might be what you see first but it is far from my first posting within here. Whilst debating the limitations on a sequel by the 4 endings of ME3 it was stated that a prequel would be better.

 And now see if this is wrong or not. I stated that to inject a new charcter within the pre history can be overshadowed by sheaprd being within this time frame, that players would want interaction with shepard. That no matter what you are doing you know exactly what is going to happen, obviously through 1-4 options.

 I then stated to inject a character to a prior time could very well not be able to sustain a new trilogy which is what they have stated they wish to have and yet have remained hidden within the codex, ingame history or the books and comics.


The post I responded to did not say that. I questioned if the post was overblown rhetoric. You could have just said "yes, it was overblown rhetoric," you know. You might want to start by telling that to McFly616, since it looks like he's taking the post seriously too.

 And i have stated on multiple occasions, not all mass effect games have tobe saving the galaxy in some way BUT for a solid trilogy, able to stand on its own two feet against the original trilogy it is going to have to be something rather epic on its own terms. this would require the writers (of which we dont have a lead writer yet) to have free reign on how the story is written without any limitations of current events happening within that time frame and no chance of conflict with shepard that could cause player revolt eg demading sheaprd interaction.


Which takes us back to the question of how "epic" such a game has to be. You still haven't given your position. Does it really involve saving the galaxy? If not, then how much "epic" is enough?


How epic is the very questions though isnt it, whats coming isnt some run off the middle off branch game in mass effect like infiltrator was, or the one they suggested for an off branch game which was garrus as he was archangle.

 In essence its gonna have tobe very epic just to stand up against its older brothers, not epic enough and its gonna be a torrent of abuse of how the previous trilogy was way better and how bioware have sold out etc etc etc.

 What i would love is something along the lines of whats in my sig, its my personal preference obviously and has no measure on what bioware will actualy do.

 As for whats previously been stated, i think i made my point rather perfectly a few posts up, if anyone wishes to argue the fact they can refer to that.

Modifié par shingara, 08 août 2013 - 08:34 .


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shingara wrote...
In essence its gonna have tobe very epic just to stand up against its older brothers, not epic enough and its gonna be a torrent of abuse of how the previous trilogy was way better and how bioware have sold out etc etc etc.


It's not inconceivable. I've got a very low opinion of the fanbase these days, so I'm willing to consider any theory taht says they'll break out in a barrage of whining.

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AlanC9 wrote...

shingara wrote...
In essence its gonna have tobe very epic just to stand up against its older brothers, not epic enough and its gonna be a torrent of abuse of how the previous trilogy was way better and how bioware have sold out etc etc etc.


It's not inconceivable. I've got a very low opinion of the fanbase these days, so I'm willing to consider any theory taht says they'll break out in a barrage of whining.



 whilst maybe not totaly inconcievable, big peoples heads rolled due to ME3 and the backlash for just an ending is quite a clear indication of what is expected of the next trilogy wouldnt you say. The shear scope of who is hunting for information on ME4, next whatever it is, is a rather good sign of the world is watching and waiting. And its not even in alpha.


 Edit, also anything they do do has to have an extra humph simply because they have catagoricaly stated no more shepard. For alot of people the MEU is like it is simply because they are shepard.

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Mcfly616 wrote...

shingara wrote...


 ow thats weak, very very weak. Lets do this in laymans terms so you might possibly understand it. How do i explain this to you hmm.

 You   Want    To    Implant     A     New    Person     Into     History    Who     Does     Nothing      At    All.

Because that is the only way your going to play a person who isnt within the codex or a covered char without them being covered already.

 And a fresh start requires nothing old within, so jog on.




I never said we should play as a "nobody" who does "nothing at all". You act as if the codex and novels cover every hero that has ever existed in the 30 years between the First Contact War and the Shepard Trilogy. But the fact is, they havent. Plain and simple.


I'm well aware of what a fresh start is. It's a new protagonist. A new cast of characters. A new villain. A new adventure.

And as far as fresh starts go, you should probably get used to it. Bioware has already stated that they're done with Shepard and the next protagonist will be different. Specifically, he wont be "Shepard 2.0"


 I am not acting as if every hero has been covered between then and now, but the major ones have and so have the major events. We know this is going tobe a trilogy, we know that shepard isnt in it, we know they arnt going tobe militery, Thats all we know.

 We dont know if its future or past, if its not militery and we are going along the lines of the fact this is a shooter based game we can deduce that its going to be a merc or villain, possibly something along the lines of c-sec. But that doesnt mean they stay as such does it.

 We know they dont want to impact within shepards story because they would suggest shepards involvment either by hook or crook so that removes all the time from eden prime right to the end of ME3, possible even before edan prime so that could be 10-15 years as no one is quite sure how old shep actualy is.

 Now that cuts alot of time into the section of time you are refering too, But as its not militery we can cut out cerberus and anderson/seran as cerberus were originaly an alliance black ops and anderson was the original 1st human spectre sort of but was always alliance.  it also cuts out the STG and the turian militery and any spectre we know or dont know about.

 If we go further back then that and humans arnt around does that stop the MEU being the MEU. You see we could go back to the prometheans but then would that be the MEU and also knowing the fact of what happens in that time does it ruin the game.

 We could be a theif type player like kasumi but how much can we get away with without sending ripples in the water which conflict with pre set down canon. Its not that i dont like prequels, its just within this sense with the limitations they have set upon the next mass effect trilogy how can they possibly create a trilogy, have it not impact upon whats already set down and still give us a justifiably great game compared to this trilogy.

 And because of those reasons i can only see the logical answer as forwards, where the MEU is still viable as we know it now, where shepard cannot conflict with anything we do and where the writers can unleash an amazing story with no fear of having to check, double check and triple check it breaks nothing.


 Because its quite easy to see point A, the point at which you concieve the idea of what you might want. but then how do you get to point B, and then point C without impacting. And thats just one part of the trilogy, they are going to have to sqwese 3 games into this. How many years are they going to cover.

 Whats the start goal, why are you doing it. what makes what you are doing worth it, whats the end goal. what impact will it have on everything around you, if its unknown is it really worth doing, if your skirting around the book knowledge then how do you stop your self getting spoilers.

  That said the conflict still remains of the endings and there being no canon ending for 3.

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^^^Just read your ME4 concept idea...very interesting and nicely done...a threat to the universe not actually by a new faction, but dark energy and it corrupting the suns/stars of the universe. I think it can set the foundation for a very solid one-shot storyline.

I say that because i don't think they can start another trilogy on the scale of what was done with the reapers...that was an Epic threat to the entire universe, and what you mentioned can be told and finalized within one gaming entry. I don't think you can stretch this storyline for 3 games in which you are showing dark energy killing entire star systems and coming closer to earth or it's allies within 3 games (it would seem too much like the reaper storyline) but i like it as a one-shot entry or an episode so to speak...

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Why thank you, i was thinking of it as a springboard type thing, like how to introduce someone else whilst keeping a link to the past. I was thinking for expansion upon it could come from the angles set out by who the factions are, the state of the galaxy and how the new npc could be portrayed going forwards.

 Sort of like they have all that data within there mind, semi sending them mad, the beacon held more intel then just the warning, could there be possible other things hidden there yet unknown and worth killing for.

Modifié par shingara, 08 août 2013 - 11:18 .