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Thedas seems screwed. What can possibly be done in DA4?


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JeffZero wrote...

jackofalltrades456 wrote...

I'm sure they'll try to milk another sequel out of this game. Bioware is already working on a Mass Effect 4 despite the fact that the Mass Effect series is basically over.....


Your post demonstrates a clear misunderstanding of both the plans for Mass Effect's future (brand new story) and the concept of the Dragon Age franchise (several already-envisioned interconnected arcs, this being the third). Either that or you harbor the belief that the Mass Effect universe is incapable of further tales (one which I fervently disagree with) and/or you believe the Dragon Age team leaders complete liars (and I can't fathom why they would possibly lie about this).



Lol What?

 How am I am excusing the Dragon Age team of lying? All I said was that it's likely that they're going to make another sequel to Dragon Age. Which they are.

As for the Mass Effect...

It's silly to already plan out another story arch for Mass Effect when they just ended the Shepard storyline barely a year ago. The Reapers are gone, Shepard is dead, and the galaxy is at peace. It's pointless to try and continue the storyline at this point. Everything is basically finished. Sure Bioware could just make it prequels like Bungie did with the Halo games, but even that seems like a pointless attempt at keeping the franchise floating. They're just trying to milk another game out of the Mass Effect franchise.

All I was trying to say was that they're going to find a way get keep the series going even if the game ends with everyone getting killed off

Modifié par jackofalltrades456, 07 août 2013 - 10:57 .


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Ziggeh wrote...

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Da:o was about conflicts in ferelden.

It started in Ferelden. It threatened everything. It was stopped before it could destroy everything.

These conflicts start in [Insert Placename Here]. They threaten everything. This is a pattern.


The blight started in ferelden an ended in ferelden.
By the way DA:I has been described, it seems that the whole world is at risk; if we need to go around solving conflicts, as has been stated, and many of these conflicts lie outside orlais, then we an rest assured that this ends up threatening more than just one country.

In da:o we didn't have to do anything regarding other countries. I can't see how this could possibly be the case in DA:I, especially as we KNOW that we visit at least 2 different countries.

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Dwarven rogue, elven warrior, human mage? Yeah that sounds about right. Damn I want this game yesterday~ >_<

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There are still many parts of Thedas that have been left unexplored and only mentioned in the games, even the unexplored areas on the maps beyond the north land masses and jungles could be revealed in future. There's still enough to make up several games at least. But these are all going to be wrapped around the main story Bioware already have planned.

When they focused on Kirkwall only for an entire Dragon Age game, it didn't sit well with fans who were used to exploring an entire kingdom, not the same areas over and over. So I wonder if they had once planned to do a future game just in a city state like Starkhaven (or still do, if they believe they can improve on it). That's another option.

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Not every political rivalry translates to open warfare at the time of DAI and not every ongoing conflict is going go be dealt with in this game. Tevinter and the Qun for example, have been fighting for about 308 years straight. I don't think the Inquisition's job will involve ending that feud for good.

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"Lead this world to its bitter end" will NOT be like ME3 refusal ending. People are thinking to much about it.

Also the "five game plan" thing...does that mean 5 games total or 5 more games starting with DAI. Part of me wants DA to continue for many more games but I dont want it to turn into Final Fantasy.

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If things get too batpoop crazy, we can always get that ME/DA crossover game. Part of me knows this would be very bad, but another part of me wants it sooo much. Sten/Grunt banter would be glorious.

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Too early to worry about DA4.
Sure that Gaider has it figured out already, s don't worry.
lol.

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I think that the darkspawn should become less and less of an issue over time, we started to get the feeling of that in Dragon Age II by Act III, and it makes sense. The darkspawn are part of the blight, and there are only so many unhappy lost breeding pits close to the surface.

I am really looking forward to games being located in different locales. Dragon Age has a really rich background that will be really fascinating to play through.

What if Zevran comes back to guide a future protagonist through Antiva?
What if we meet up with Tallis again in Par Vollen dealing with the repercussions of an arishok's murder in Kirkwall?

I doubt we will see a game set in the Anderfels in the next several years. The way the Anderfels are described, it might be far too similar to some other popular cold fantasy settings that are very popular right now.

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Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

Not every political rivalry translates to open warfare at the time of DAI and not every ongoing conflict is going go be dealt with in this game. Tevinter and the Qun for example, have been fighting for about 308 years straight. I don't think the Inquisition's job will involve ending that feud for good.


Hell, most of Thedas probably wants them to keep fighting because it keeps them from invading everyone else.

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If they end up making the fourth about picking up all the pieces, rebuilding, & mending relationships, perhaps then it'll be one of those hybrid RPG's like Mass Effect. What games have done something like that before... Maybe Dark Cloud & Okami? They had points where you fix or rebuild places & even fix people. A sort of blend of RPG elements and parts of simulation, collection gathering, & RTS. If Inquisition sees Thedas at the precipice, & the world sees change, then perhaps what comes after will be comparable to a golden age. Who knows at this point, it'll be easier to tell once Inquisition is out because the clues will surely be there.

Modifié par Neoleviathan, 08 août 2013 - 06:09 .


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ManchesterUnitedFan1 wrote...

Ziggeh wrote...

ManchesterUnitedFan1 wrote...
Da:o was about conflicts in ferelden.

It started in Ferelden. It threatened everything. It was stopped before it could destroy everything.

These conflicts start in [Insert Placename Here]. They threaten everything. This is a pattern.


The blight started in ferelden an ended in ferelden.
By the way DA:I has been described, it seems that the whole world is at risk; if we need to go around solving conflicts, as has been stated, and many of these conflicts lie outside orlais, then we an rest assured that this ends up threatening more than just one country.

In da:o we didn't have to do anything regarding other countries. I can't see how this could possibly be the case in DA:I, especially as we KNOW that we visit at least 2 different countries.


It was mentioned that we would be focusing on southern Thedas so I doubt we'll get to be involved in everything.  Seems like we'll be centered in Orlais and Ferelden, but we'll see.

At any rate I remember a dev mentioning that before or a little after Origins they were deciding between the Mage/Templar War (might have been the Blight idr) and the Tevinter and Qun conflict,  so I imagine they'll be going to the conflict in the north in DA:I. I also remember, though with the changes it probably has changed, but wasn't it said that Qunari weren't going to play a big role this time around? Don't take my word on it though because I'm paraphrasing horribly.

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The games isn't a trilogy or anything like that.We are going to save Thedas(or possibly destroy it) then the next game will probably be set farther down the Dragon Age line.

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jackofalltrades456 wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

jackofalltrades456 wrote...

I'm sure they'll try to milk another sequel out of this game. Bioware is already working on a Mass Effect 4 despite the fact that the Mass Effect series is basically over.....


Your post demonstrates a clear misunderstanding of both the plans for Mass Effect's future (brand new story) and the concept of the Dragon Age franchise (several already-envisioned interconnected arcs, this being the third). Either that or you harbor the belief that the Mass Effect universe is incapable of further tales (one which I fervently disagree with) and/or you believe the Dragon Age team leaders complete liars (and I can't fathom why they would possibly lie about this).



Lol What?

 How am I am excusing the Dragon Age team of lying? All I said was that it's likely that they're going to make another sequel to Dragon Age. Which they are.

As for the Mass Effect...

It's silly to already plan out another story arch for Mass Effect when they just ended the Shepard storyline barely a year ago. The Reapers are gone, Shepard is dead, and the galaxy is at peace. It's pointless to try and continue the storyline at this point. Everything is basically finished. Sure Bioware could just make it prequels like Bungie did with the Halo games, but even that seems like a pointless attempt at keeping the franchise floating. They're just trying to milk another game out of the Mass Effect franchise.

All I was trying to say was that they're going to find a way get keep the series going even if the game ends with everyone getting killed off


They never said the Mass Effect series would end with Shepard's trilogy - only that Shepard's story was a trilogy and that his/her story would end in ME3.
They're not "milking" anything with ME4, and it certainly could be set in a post-Shepard era with a brand-new story that has minimal (or even zero) ties to Shepard. Even if there appears to be peace at the end of ME3, that's not exactly a guarantee that no new threats will arise.

And after watching that GI video, yes, they've evidently planned out the story ARC in DA for at least five games. Your implication that they're milking things with ME4 to rake in cash/whatever and have no furhter stories to tell just because you think there are no more stories to tell is silly. So is applying that logic to the DA games. They never set an arbitrary limit on the number of DA games (other than natural limits of an Age in Thedas), just like they didn't set some arbitrary limit on the ME series either.

Modifié par AtreiyaN7, 09 août 2013 - 12:50 .


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We forget that the Qun may yet take hold by force in Thedas. I can only assume we must wait for DA4 or DA5 for such a beneficent event.

Beyond the Qun, there is whatever Flemeth is, Flemeth who can become manifest even after death (if she indeed died in some games), Flemeth who is not an abomination nor anything human.

The OGB is not in every game result and probably not worth mentioning as the source of so much trouble it demands an entire sequel to resolve.

The Fade might be subject to plunder and assault -- someone might find a way to do that. And the Maker might decide Thedas isn't worth keeping.

A new power might appear from over the Northern Ocean, seeking to destroy the Qunari or even more interesting, ox-men reinforcements might arrive to bolster the Qunari position in Par Vollen; of course these reinforcements might not have heard of the Qun itself nor be entirely in agreement with the form it takes.

Elves from regions in Thedas where elves haven't been subjugated might discover the situation in our "known Thedas". We could end up with an elven invasion.

Other events are possible.

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Hmm. I'm perhaps pessimistic for thinking this, but some of them may end up being like the mage/templar choice in DA: Exodus.
Namely, that what made them different was the context of your character's decision, and not the events themselves. Meredith and Orsino are both nuts and dead regardless, its just whether templars praise you or hunt you, whether you rule or you run.
Ultimately choices like that mean that the events themselves are static enough that they can set another story in motion, they just chance a slight amount in reasons/motivations behind certain characters' involvements.

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What can possibly be done in DA4?

Migrate... Obviously...
I mean, life expectancy in Thedas must be almost ridiculously low...

Alternatively a horde invasion (similarly to the mongols) from beyond the Donarks...
They'll be totally ruthless in their conquering and will worship Freymith, the dragon goddess of the Sky...

But jokes aside, I really don't know, but honestly I think we should focus on that only after we have seen how DA3 plays out...

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Well in DA3 you play an Inquisitor leading a force against the chantry/demons/mages and the world is obviously gonna be pretty jacked up. Maybe in DA4 you'll play as a restoration leader and your choices will impact the world that is built after all the destruction.

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We fight or we die!

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I never thought about that omg

PRE ORDER CANCELED

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Thedas isnt the only continent. Qunari came from some....where...over the rainbow~ !

lol

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aang001 wrote...

Thedas isnt the only continent. Qunari came from some....where...over the rainbow~ !

lol

There is some truth to what you say. Where do you think Sten's Rainbow Butterfly Sword came from?
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Well i definitely want to see more games in the Dragon Age universe, purists can gtfo. Other than that, there's plenty of stuff left, two dragon gods, the ancient magisters, the qunari, the fade, and if were lucky we might get to play explorers of the lands above the equator.

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jackofalltrades456 wrote...



As for the Mass Effect...

It's silly to already plan out another story arch for Mass Effect when they just ended the Shepard storyline barely a year ago. The Reapers are gone, Shepard is dead, and the galaxy is at peace. It's pointless to try and continue the storyline at this point. Everything is basically finished. Sure Bioware could just make it prequels like Bungie did with the Halo games, but even that seems like a pointless attempt at keeping the franchise floating. They're just trying to milk another game out of the Mass Effect franchise.

All I was trying to say was that they're going to find a way get keep the series going even if the game ends with everyone getting killed off


What on earth, or better said outside of earth are you talking about?  There are just loads of possible gme stories in that universe to be told that do not include shepard the reapers or any such thing.

Also it is totally logcial for companies to keep working on their onw IPs past game 3 of any series.  There is a huge investement in making a game world in time and money.

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The choice probably isn't world-shattering, but if it is, in DA4 or DA5 they'll probably just have to focus on one of the options and not allow importing the other options or such (like no importing a true Suicide Mission from ME2). But it's not like they couldn't possibly choose the world-shattering option as the canon option. Up to a certain degree of apocalypse (ie no planet busters that kill all terrestrial life larger than a mouse), at least, humanity could still possibly go on, if in an oppressed, post-apocalyptic (temporarily or not-so-much) state.

Modifié par Filament, 08 août 2013 - 05:44 .