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BenHawk

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 So it occured to me that bioware basically did a bungie with mass effect 3.

I mean this in that they said that this was the end for shepard and co and that the ending would make it clear that this part of the story was over. **** like that/ bungie did the same thing when talking about the halo 3 ending. both companys then proceeded to give us an ending that basically said 'not only did they survive but there is probably going to be another title with them as the character'.

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Well, my opinion is your assertion is bupkus. After all, they've publically stated multiple times that the next game will have NOTHING to do with Shepard, that HIS story is over. Of course, they did say the same of the protagonist of DA:O and look what they did there? They made a sequel! One that... had...nothing to do...with...him.....Hmmmm.

Modifié par Wolfva2, 08 août 2013 - 05:15 .


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That and Halo 3 made more of an attempt to show that the Chief was still alive and well. Very clear actually... Whereas a breath scene isn't so clear sooooo... I'm not so certain about that.

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No. No way. Shepard's story is OVER, DONE, FINSHED. NO MORE SHEPARD!

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Could Bioware revive Shepard? Anything is possible.

If Bioware/EA believed that bringing Shepard back in some future game would equal $$$ ... hmmm.

Do I believe that this is going to happen? No.

But I've learned to never say never.

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Much as I have enjoyed Shepard and the crew's journey. What more can be do with them? They are heroes of the galaxy. Anything beneath a full scale threat would seem a waste of their potential and anything greater runs the risk of undermining the Reaper plot as irrelevant. What would be interesting is playing as a descendant of Shepard, someone fighting to rise out of Shepard's shadow.

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PMC65 wrote...

Could Bioware revive Shepard? Anything is possible.

If Bioware/EA believed that bringing Shepard back in some future game would equal $$$ ... hmmm.

Do I believe that this is going to happen? No.

But I've learned to never say never.


 That all depends on how big of a cash cow it is, i mean i dont wanna push any agenda but how big would it be when they finaly show what the next mass effect is and , big music drum roll, the vid screen goes black behind them. A big flash of light and then shepard pops up. Huge cheer from the crowd.

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Im just saying that that guy from bioware confirmed that in the particular ending im talking about shepard is alive. much in the way the chief was at the end of halo 3 if you beat it on legendary. my point is that although bungie had flatout said 117 was done, we still have a new trilogy [i am aware that 344 are behind it but thats not the point]. The 'stargazer' also points out that there is at least one more shepard story. Even if it isnt bioware i fully expect that shepard will in some form make a return in a future mass effect game - because game/movie/books have demonstrated that even when they say that there will not be another, more often then not that isnt the case. because they cant resist the money it brings.

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BenHawk wrote...

Im just saying that that guy from bioware confirmed that in the particular ending im talking about shepard is alive. much in the way the chief was at the end of halo 3 if you beat it on legendary. my point is that although bungie had flatout said 117 was done, we still have a new trilogy [i am aware that 344 are behind it but thats not the point]. The 'stargazer' also points out that there is at least one more shepard story. Even if it isnt bioware i fully expect that shepard will in some form make a return in a future mass effect game - because game/movie/books have demonstrated that even when they say that there will not be another, more often then not that isnt the case. because they cant resist the money it brings.


There were three more Shepard stories in fact. Leviathan, Omega and Citadel.

Modifié par Cobalt2113, 08 août 2013 - 06:42 .


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Cobalt2113 wrote...

BenHawk wrote...

Im just saying that that guy from bioware confirmed that in the particular ending im talking about shepard is alive. much in the way the chief was at the end of halo 3 if you beat it on legendary. my point is that although bungie had flatout said 117 was done, we still have a new trilogy [i am aware that 344 are behind it but thats not the point]. The 'stargazer' also points out that there is at least one more shepard story. Even if it isnt bioware i fully expect that shepard will in some form make a return in a future mass effect game - because game/movie/books have demonstrated that even when they say that there will not be another, more often then not that isnt the case. because they cant resist the money it brings.


There were three more Shepard stories in fact. Leviathan, Omega and Citadel.


Hmmm, i'll be the first to admit i hadn't thought about it that way because it isnt like those storys can be considered sperate to the campaign. I dont really agree with you in the sense of ' i think thats what bioware meant' but i think its a decent take on it.

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Bourne Endeavor wrote...

Much as I have enjoyed Shepard and the crew's journey. What more can be do with them? They are heroes of the galaxy. Anything beneath a full scale threat would seem a waste of their potential and anything greater runs the risk of undermining the Reaper plot as irrelevant. What would be interesting is playing as a descendant of Shepard, someone fighting to rise out of Shepard's shadow.


I'm not that interested in playing a character who is special merely because they are descendants of Shepard.
I'm also looking forward to something new set in the mass effectuniverse.(no Shepard)

Modifié par shodiswe, 08 août 2013 - 08:02 .


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They should just focus on another sci-fi IP. I think Shepard deserved a longer story (or rather, have the same story stretched out better), but since it's over, I'm failing to see the point of hanging around the MEU. I doubt they can provide a coherent sequel after this timeline (that somehow takes into account the current endings), and prequels are dumb.

Modifié par StreetMagic, 08 août 2013 - 08:34 .


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StreetMagic wrote...

They should just focus on another sci-fi IP. I think Shepard deserved a longer story (or rather, have the same story stretched out better), but since it's over, I'm failing to see the point of hanging around the MEU. I doubt they can provide a coherent sequel after this timeline (that somehow takes into account the current endings), and prequels are dumb.



This. 

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StreetMagic wrote...

They should just focus on another sci-fi IP. I think Shepard deserved a longer story (or rather, have the same story stretched out better), but since it's over, I'm failing to see the point of hanging around the MEU. I doubt they can provide a coherent sequel after this timeline (that somehow takes into account the current endings), and prequels are dumb.

I don't think Shepard deserved a longer story but I agree with the rest of this.

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BenHawk wrote...
 So it occured to me that bioware basically did a bungie with mass effect 3.

But Halo 3 is a great game that has a decent ending that leaves no real unanswered questions...

I mean:
Humanity - Survives to rebuild
Flood - Dead, at least for now...
Covenant - Defeated after roughly thirty years of bloody war
Rings - Dormant once more
Chief - Alive and asleep having more than earned the rest

The only problem it had was the campaign felt short, and the assault rifle sounded weak but that's just a nitpick.  ME3
on the other hand, well, the criticisms of it are well known.



For the Bungie/Bioware bit, I hope they DON'T emulate Bungie because with Halo Reach one could easily tell that Bungie was tired of doing the series, that passion, that creative spark was quite dead.  ODST was the last thing they really poured some heart and soul into. 
I really don't want to see Bioware like that, but under EA I suppose it's only inevitable if it hasn't happened already.

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It's worth noting that leaving their title character alone, floating freely in space, is kind of a 'thing' for Bungie. They did it with Marathon too. So in that sense, although it was a cliff hanger, coming from Bungie it was pretty clearly a cliff-hanger they weren't intending to return to.

(@Astartes Marine: I disagree - Halo: Reach remains my favourite game of the series. Halo 3 still has the best ending, but for the overall experience Reach is at the top. I think they used up their creative spark doing Reach, not that it was already gone.)

As for ME3: I don't think that the breath scene constitutes a cliff-hanger, more an invitation to decide for yourself what happens next. I will be extremely surprised if the Mass Effect series returns to Shepard after ME3.

Modifié par JasonShepard, 08 août 2013 - 10:36 .


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@jason ye for the next lot of ME games i would say based upon what they have said that shep is a no go for those, but that said i wouldnt take shep of the table totaly for future games beyond the scope of what they have planed now.

Modifié par shingara, 08 août 2013 - 10:45 .


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Bourne Endeavor wrote...

Much as I have enjoyed Shepard and the crew's journey. What more can be do with them? They are heroes of the galaxy. Anything beneath a full scale threat would seem a waste of their potential and anything greater runs the risk of undermining the Reaper plot as irrelevant. What would be interesting is playing as a descendant of Shepard, someone fighting to rise out of Shepard's shadow.


It doesn't have to be greater. Sequel does not always equate to bigger and more grandiose.

I would also rather not someone else come in as a new protagonist. That would only serve to undermine the importance of what Shepard did in the first trilogy.

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If they do make a sequel they should make it possible to travel to whole other galaxies with a new version of Mass Relays. I mean it would be awesome to travel to those other galaxies we see on the galaxy map in the distance.

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BassStyles wrote...

That and Halo 3 made more of an attempt to show that the Chief was still alive and well. Very clear actually... Whereas a breath scene isn't so clear sooooo... I'm not so certain about that.

this....there was a huge fight about killing the chief and luckily reason won.

then of course bungie did reach to get off their chest the desire to be cool dark and hip by killing off the protagonist.....

hopefully 343 will not have the need to do something that useless

anyways I am digressing

Shepard will not feature in a mass effect game in the future unless EA forces BW to do so

I would mobs that btw