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[OLDIRTYBARON]

MasterScribe wrote...

OLDIRTYBARON wrote...

Qunari is an odd word because until recently everyone assumed Qunari meant "those giant horned bad asses." I wouldn't argue against a Kossith option, though. Or is it Kassith? Whatever. I want to be a purple skinned horned giant with a **** off sized sword. 

I thought that "kossith" had been revealed to be an archaic term for the race, from before the Qun.

I honestly have no idea. Outside of reading the books I don't keep up with the Dragon Age EU. Sometimes I think this forum just makes **** up and it sticks.

[Cainhurst Crow]

MasterScribe wrote...

OLDIRTYBARON wrote...

Qunari is an odd word because until recently everyone assumed Qunari meant "those giant horned bad asses." I wouldn't argue against a Kossith option, though. Or is it Kassith? Whatever. I want to be a purple skinned horned giant with a **** off sized sword. 

I thought that "kossith" had been revealed to be an archaic term for the race, from before the Qun.

Correct, or at least gaider tried, but everyone kept saying how the lead writer was wrong on the issue he had authority over, and that their fan idea had precedence because reasons.

It's like calling everyone mesopotamians, since we all come more or less from mesopotamia thousands of years ago. Nobody does it.

Vashoth is for qunari who are not of the qun, since pretty much every qunari is raised from birth to be part of it, and defection is a very rare thing. Otherwise they just call themselves qunari regardless. Sort of like the term "American", and how it's composed of various races and nationalities of people, who have all decided to identify as belonging to the country of the united states of america.

[Asdrubael Vect]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

Dark Korsar wrote...

it not make any sense for Qunari kossind in Inquisition

this can be posible only for Tal Vasgot(man or especially woman who run or never was in the Qun slavery of Tammasarants and who think that Qun is very bad) Kossind who know Thedas language, have free will,  mind and more knoledges(espesially about Thedas what very important) about world and how to live in non-Qunari society

Vashoth are qunari who have abandonded the qun.

Tal-vashoth are ones who dedicate their lives to fighting it, often with piracy, banditry, and general evil acts.

Know the difference.

i know the differense and this is why it make sense only for Tal-Vasgot Kossinds

Vashoth in most cases are non-Kossind Qunari and they just run to live in peace(and wait then Ben Hassrath find them and return to QUN) they are not warriors, mages or leaders and they cant be good for this

and Tal-Vasgot are warriors who not fear to fight and they have more tolerance for mages and free will and open mind than all Kossind

Modifié par Dark Korsar, 08 août 2013 - 08:35 .

[Cainhurst Crow]

What the hell is a kossind, and why do you keep using that word? And what do you mean "Vashoth in most cases are non-Kossind Qunari", they are precisely qunari of the horned giant variety, they just don't try to destroy the qun with every fiber of their being. They can be of the warrior caste as well, just don't try and attack those who follow the qun and you are a vashoth.

[Asdrubael Vect]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

What the hell is a kossind, and why do you keep using that word? And what do you mean "Vashoth in most cases are non-Kossind Qunari", they are precisely qunari of the horned giant variety, they just don't try to destroy the qun with every fiber of their being. They can be of the warrior caste as well, just don't try and attack those who follow the qun and you are a vashoth.

Kossind is the name of their race, Qunari is the same that call person an Anrastian or Ferelden who can be Human, elf or dwarf

Vashoth in most cases are non Kossind because they are remnants of Qunari wars(then Qunari indoctrinate Thedas elves and humans) who for some cases(in most cases Thedas kingdoms or Armada pirates or Tal Vasgoth who wipe out Qunari forces and free peoples) can leave Qun sosiety and in future can be return to Qun by Ben Hassrath....they still Qunari and think and have mind like Qunari

Tal Vasgoth are not, they are not tolerate Qun slavery and Ben Hassrath cant return them to Qun because they know to much and they will fight for death

Modifié par Dark Korsar, 08 août 2013 - 08:51 .

[Asdrubael Vect]

MasterScribe wrote...

Dark Korsar wrote...

Kossind is the name of their race, Qunari is the same that call person an Anrastian or Ferelden who can be Human, elf or dwarf

KOSSITH is not a term that the Qunari use themselves, according to lead writer David Gaider. They use the terms Qunari (any race), Vashoth (any race that has left the Qun), and Tal-Vashoth (specifically the gray-skinned race).

not use now(they use before Qun) is not mean that is not their name, most Kossind are Qunari simply not know about this name only Tammassarants

Modifié par Dark Korsar, 08 août 2013 - 08:54 .

[JWvonGoethe]

Without getting bogged down in terminology, I'd like the option to play as one of those big grey horned things.

If I were to rank the races in order of preference for playing as, I'd probably put it as my first or second choice.

Modifié par JWvonGoethe, 08 août 2013 - 09:04 .

[Asdrubael Vect]

MasterScribe wrote...

Dark Korsar wrote...

MasterScribe wrote...

Dark Korsar wrote...

Kossind is the name of their race, Qunari is the same that call person an Anrastian or Ferelden who can be Human, elf or dwarf

KOSSITH is not a term that the Qunari use themselves, according to lead writer David Gaider. They use the terms Qunari (any race), Vashoth (any race that has left the Qun), and Tal-Vashoth (specifically the gray-skinned race).

not use now(they use before Qun) is not mean that is not their name, most Kossind are Qunari simply not know about this name only Tammassarants

I repeat, "K O S S I T H" is not a term that the Qunari use themselves, according to LEAD WRITER David Gaider.

Obligatory link

again not use and know now because of Qun is not mean that is not their name...Elf or Human still would be Elf or Human even if he forget this name of his race in Qun society

Modifié par Dark Korsar, 08 août 2013 - 09:04 .

[Liyros]

Semantics aside, I'm not sure how it'd be implemented in a believable manner. The Qunari are the most "alien" of the races in Dragon Age. Despite all that, I can't but think it'd be wicked cool.

Ohhh, what if they were treated like Orcs in those old-school games and can't really have a LI?

[Cainhurst Crow]

That is not the difference between vashoth and tal-vashoth, it has nothing to do with race and all to do with how they go about in their rejection of the qun.

"The Tal-Vashoth are Qunari who abandon the Qun. It is not specific to race, and thus former Qunari dwarves, humans, and elves can become Tal-Vashoth. "Vashoth" literally means "grey" and the prefix "tal" means "true," hence Tal-Vashoth meaning "True Grey" in Qunlat. "

It's the first damn thing you read in the entry. http://dragonage.wik...iki/Tal-Vashoth

Modifié par Darth Brotarian, 08 août 2013 - 09:13 .

[Asdrubael Vect]

MasterScribe wrote...

Dark Korsar wrote...

MasterScribe wrote...

Dark Korsar wrote...

MasterScribe wrote...

Dark Korsar wrote...

Kossind is the name of their race, Qunari is the same that call person an Anrastian or Ferelden who can be Human, elf or dwarf

KOSSITH is not a term that the Qunari use themselves, according to lead writer David Gaider. They use the terms Qunari (any race), Vashoth (any race that has left the Qun), and Tal-Vashoth (specifically the gray-skinned race).

not use now(they use before Qun) is not mean that is not their name, most Kossind are Qunari simply not know about this name only Tammassarants

I repeat, "K O S S I T H" is not a term that the Qunari use themselves, according to LEAD WRITER David Gaider.

Obligatory link

again not use and know now because of Qun is not mean that is not their name...Elf or Human still would be Elf or Human even if he forget this name of his race in Qun society

Those of the grey-skinned race call themselves the Tal-Vashoth (TRUE GREY), as opposed to Vashoth (GREY, which refers to ANYONE that has left the Qun). These are two different meanings for grey, one referring to skin color and the other referring to undefined morality.

It is not specific to race, and thus former Qunari dwarves, humans, and elves can become Tal-Vashoth.

still kossith is name of their race even if most of them not use or know about it

Modifié par Dark Korsar, 08 août 2013 - 09:18 .

[Cainhurst Crow]

In fact I may have been incorrect in my use of the words vashoth and tal-vashoth. Since it seems the difference falls on weather they can or cannot escape the ben-hassrath or not.

[Mr.House]

What in blue hell is a kossind and vasgoth?

Modifié par Mr.House, 08 août 2013 - 09:20 .

[Asdrubael Vect]

Mr.House wrote...

What in blue hell is a kossind and vasgot ?

kossind is original name of their race before Qun then most of them forget this name and now not use or know about it

vasgot is a name of any person of any race who left Qun but can be returned-indoctrinated by Ben Hassrath

Modifié par Dark Korsar, 08 août 2013 - 09:24 .

[Cainhurst Crow]

Relevant.

[Asdrubael Vect]

Filament wrote...

Their racial name is qunari. Ex-qunari qunari are still qunari.

and Anrrastians is racial name of humans)))

[Cainhurst Crow]

Dark Korsar wrote...

Filament wrote...

Their racial name is qunari. Ex-qunari qunari are still qunari.

and Anrrastians is racial name of humans)))

I don't even know what that means.

Please, even if english isn't your first language, stop misspelling words.

Even google doesn't know what "Anrrastians" mean.

Modifié par Darth Brotarian, 08 août 2013 - 09:25 .

[n7stormrunner]

Dark Korsar wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

What in blue hell is a kossind and vasgot ?

kossind is original name of their race before Qun then most of them forget this name and now not use or know about it

vasgot is a name of any person of any race who left Qun but can be returned-indoctrinated

*waves his hand like he thinks he is a jedi* you will realize you spelling them wrong