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[Frozenkex]

noone is gonna respect Qunari inquisitor, /thread. Thats like asking for Shepard to be krogan. Also i dont see a lore scenario where a qunari could end up being inquisitor who cares about the affairs of humans.

[KR4U55]

I seriously think this is getting out of hand. It's not like I don't want to play as a qunari (I do have a bronze skinned white haired human warrior in Origins) but I feel this request is way too much.

[Sir George Parr]

It would be the only thing that genuinely would interest me in the return of the other races. To have the qunari as an option.

[thebatmanreborn]

Frozenkex wrote...

noone is gonna respect Qunari inquisitor, /thread. Thats like asking for Shepard to be krogan. Also i dont see a lore scenario where a qunari could end up being inquisitor who cares about the affairs of humans.

You are missing the story potential. The Qunari offer security at the price of freedom. There is a worldwide crisis going on. People are scared. People tend to give up freedom when they are scared. Besides, when my Qunari starts spltting heads with his battleaxe, there will be all kinds of respect. Seriously though, i really want Qunari as a playable race. 

Modifié par thebatmanreborn, 10 août 2013 - 01:59 .

[Vit246]

There is no way the Inquisition will have a Qunari or Kossith in the Inquisition. You don't seem to understand how much Thedas is dominated by humans. You underestimate how much Thedas does not like or trust the Qunari or even Kossith. They are alien foreigners and heathens. Thedas's only experience with the Qunari has been a century-long holy war that they started and then it ended in a stalemate cease-fire. And in recent history the Qunari attacked Kirkwall. The Inquisition will be working within a continent-wide society indoctrinated by the Chantry for over 900 years, there will be no Qunari or Kossith involved.
It does not work like that.

Modifié par Vit246, 10 août 2013 - 04:19 .

[Allan Schumacher]

Thetford wrote...

But how would a kossith/Quanari/Tal'Vashoph player character handle the sarcastic and humorous dialogue options?

Responding with "No."

[Protodega]

Vit246 wrote...

There is no way the Inquisition will have a Qunari or Kossith in the Inquisition. You don't seem to understand how much Thedas is dominated by humans. You underestimate how much Thedas does not like or trust the Qunari or even Kossith. They are alien foreigners and heathens. Thedas's only experience with the Qunari has been a century-long holy war that they started and then it ended in a stalemate cease-fire. And in recent history the Qunari attacked Kirkwall. The Inquisition will be working within a continent-wide society indoctrinated by the Chantry for over 900 years, there will be no Qunari or Kossith involved.
It does not work like that.

Yet from the description of the Inquisition we've gotten, it's a group of people standing up for order when no one else can. Respect is something you're going to have to earn, and I don't see how it would be more difficult for a Kossith to win that authority than an elf. Neither are exactly in high regard in human kingdoms. Further, this game seems to be about re-defining Thedas. Seems like a great opportunity to go into more depth on how a Kossith apart from the Qun will live.

I'd trade all the other race choices away for the chance to play one. Make it happen.

Modifié par Protodega, 10 août 2013 - 05:25 .

[Direwolf0294]

Frozenkex wrote...

noone is gonna respect Qunari inquisitor, /thread. Thats like asking for Shepard to be krogan.

That's not a great analogy, as part of the set up of ME1 was that humans were third class citizens with little respect, and it was only through Shepard's actions that they started to get some respect (and even then Shepard still had to deal with a lot of crap). A Krogan Shepard would have been at least equally regarded as human Shepard.

Plus respect is going to depend on the faction we're dealing with. They already mentioned that, for example, an elf would be treated better if interacting with a Dalish clan. I don't see why they couldn't just handle a Qunari PC the same way.

Also i dont see a lore scenario where a qunari could end up being inquisitor who cares about the affairs of humans.

But the events of DA:I aren't just the affairs of humans, it's a world wide thing; unless you don't think the Qunari should care about mages fighting a war for their freedom or a demon invasion, two things that could have a major impact on them. 

For my part, I do hope they allow Kossith to be playable, and I use the term Kossith because I want the race playable, but I don't want my character automatically tied to the Qun. Elves and dwarves are great (and I'm beyond happy that they'll be playable) but Kossith are a race unique to the Dragon Age setting, and it would be awesome to play as one.

[AmRMa]

No- I wouldn't want to play one and I don't think any organization or leader in Orlais or Ferelden would let a Kossith or Qunari tell them what to do or gain enough followers to become a threat because nobody trusts them (They did destroy a city) or their agenda. On the other hand forming an alliance of necessity and having one as a follower I am open for.

[Yalision]

Can't wait to hear the difference voices the PC's are going to have. This should be very interesting.

[Nashimura]

Frozenkex wrote...

noone is gonna respect Qunari inquisitor, /thread.

I would say every single Quanari we have met in DA has commanded some kind of respect. 

Modifié par Nashimura, 10 août 2013 - 12:49 .

[Thetford]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

Thetford wrote...

But how would a kossith/Quanari/Tal'Vashoph player character handle the sarcastic and humorous dialogue options?

Responding with "No."

I wonder if anyone will interpret this as a confirmation that they are in ...

(I sure as Fade don't)

[Sifr]

Frozenkex wrote...

noone is gonna respect Qunari inquisitor, /thread. Thats like asking for Shepard to be krogan. Also i dont see a lore scenario where a qunari could end up being inquisitor who cares about the affairs of humans.

Rarely goes a day without getting into a fight or blowing something up, too stubborn to give up, is ridiculously hard if not impossible to kill... are you sure that Shepard WASN'T secretly a Krogan the entire time?

But on topic;

The Qunari may be crazy militant believers in Plato's The Republic and hate magic, but I'm assuming that at least some of them are sane enough to recognise that once the demons pouring out of the tear in the Veil finish killing all the bas, they'll come after them next.

I can't imagine they're be sitting on their hands while the world crumbled around them and fell to demons. Especially with Sten leading them, since the guy always came off as rather proactive in Origins.

Modifié par Sifr1449, 10 août 2013 - 12:44 .

[Nashimura]

"Rarely goes a day without getting into a fight or blowing something up, too stubborn to give up, is ridiculously hard if not impossible to kill... are you sure that Shepard WASN'T secretly a Krogan the entire time?"

Plus you can be a vanguard and just headbutt away the reaper invasion.

Modifié par Nashimura, 10 août 2013 - 12:57 .

[TerribleStormy]

No offence to the OP, but I highly doubt a Qunari would want to be in the role of Inquisition. Given the opinions made during DA:2 and the subsequent DLC, they seem to be very clearly of their own mind about things, and not interested in the petty squabbling of human politics. And the stand on magic seems to punch their line of being of their own mindset. Remember the quest of Hawke trying to release the Sarebas?

The Kossith were terrified that he was contaminated with demons. That would rule out a player's ability to play as a Kossith Mage, as in lore you not be capable of making your own choices, let alone leading, because you would have been shackled and if set free, you would likely kill yourself rather then risk being contaminated with demons. The only person I could see pulling it off would be someone like Tallis, who was Qunari (of the religion) but not a Kossith. I think you're hoping for the visually imposing Kossith and I just don't see it working. Not as the PC. Companion sure, but not the PC.

[Zobo]

TerribleStormy wrote...

That would rule out a player's ability to play as a Kossith Mage, as in lore you not be capable of making your own choices, let alone leading, because you would have been shackled and if set free, you would likely kill yourself rather then risk being contaminated with demons. The only person I could see pulling it off would be someone like Tallis, who was Qunari (of the religion) but not a Kossith. I think you're hoping for the visually imposing Kossith and I just don't see it working. Not as the PC. Companion sure, but not the PC.

We can always be a horned child who by luck managed to survive a shipwreck to be found and raised by a wandering elven clan or something like this.
Problem solved.

[Parmida]

Playing as a Tal-Vashoth Oxman Inquisitor is possible but I don't see a Qunari Oxman being the Inquisitor. And yes, I would love palying as an Oxman. :3

[Nerdage]

TerribleStormy wrote...

No offence to the OP, but I highly doubt a Qunari would want to be in the role of Inquisition. Given the opinions made during DA:2 and the subsequent DLC, they seem to be very clearly of their own mind about things, and not interested in the petty squabbling of human politics. And the stand on magic seems to punch their line of being of their own mindset. Remember the quest of Hawke trying to release the Sarebas?

The Kossith were terrified that he was contaminated with demons. That would rule out a player's ability to play as a Kossith Mage, as in lore you not be capable of making your own choices, let alone leading, because you would have been shackled and if set free, you would likely kill yourself rather then risk being contaminated with demons. The only person I could see pulling it off would be someone like Tallis, who was Qunari (of the religion) but not a Kossith. I think you're hoping for the visually imposing Kossith and I just don't see it working. Not as the PC. Companion sure, but not the PC.

That they're willing to kill all of your party in order to bring one docile mage under control tells me they'd very much want to fight the giant hellmouth in the sky; it's hard to think of a larger affront to the Qun than that. And if they don't follow the Qun, then they have as much reason to be fighting as any other race.

And I wouldn't assume that everyone born and raised under the Qun is exactly the same. Just because that one Saarebas we met was completely cowed doesn't mean they all are, otherwise where do the Tal-Vashoth come from? And there must be some inbetween the two extremes, like Maraas.

Modifié par nerdage, 10 août 2013 - 02:40 .

[TerribleStormy]

nerdage wrote...

TerribleStormy wrote...

No offence to the OP, but I highly doubt a Qunari would want to be in the role of Inquisition. Given the opinions made during DA:2 and the subsequent DLC, they seem to be very clearly of their own mind about things, and not interested in the petty squabbling of human politics. And the stand on magic seems to punch their line of being of their own mindset. Remember the quest of Hawke trying to release the Sarebas?

The Kossith were terrified that he was contaminated with demons. That would rule out a player's ability to play as a Kossith Mage, as in lore you not be capable of making your own choices, let alone leading, because you would have been shackled and if set free, you would likely kill yourself rather then risk being contaminated with demons. The only person I could see pulling it off would be someone like Tallis, who was Qunari (of the religion) but not a Kossith. I think you're hoping for the visually imposing Kossith and I just don't see it working. Not as the PC. Companion sure, but not the PC.

That they're willing to kill all of your party in order to bring one docile mage under control tells me they'd very much want to fight the giant hellmouth in the sky; it's hard to think of a larger affront to the Qun than that. And if they don't follow the Qun, then they have as much reason to be fighting as any other race.

And I wouldn't assume that everyone born and raised under the Qun is exactly the same. Just because that one Saarebas we met was completely cowed doesn't mean they all are, otherwise where do the Tal-Vashoth come from? And there must be some inbetween the two extremes, like Maraas.

I never said they wouldn't want to fight, I just doubt they would want to take up the Inquisition, as an independent branch operating outside of the Chantry, Seekers, Templars and Circle, while working to try to get the world in line. Kossith seemed so far to be entirely not interested in the politics in Kirkwall. And I'm also not assuming that everyone would be entirely like the ones we met, but it's presented that they really don't care about human/elf/dwarf politics, which you, as the Inquisitor, would be neck-deep in. 

I see a Kossith as a party member, much like Sten was in Origins, interested in how this is playing out and keeping an eye on the PC to make sure that they are being represented, and that everything isn't going to hell in a handbasket.

[In Exile]

Filament wrote...

Out of hand? It's just the option to play one more race that exists in the world. How is that so radical compared to elves and dwarves? Because DAO didn't have it?

From a lore standpoint I really don't think it's any more radical to have a qunari leading the inquisition than an elf. It's not like it's a qunari and all his pals under the direction of the Arishok that are taking over. Presumably this one would be cut off from the homeland, a lone expatriate. I don't see the perception of that necessarily surpassing the viciousness of the general populous toward the elven race.

I don't think it's radical, I just think a qunari is rare enough that you'd need *lots* of reactive content. Basically, I think qunari might cost too much to do well. And you can't really have them speak with the same VO, because they have a different manner of expressing themselves, even as (former) Tal-Vashoth. 

[Nashimura]

TerribleStormy wrote...

No offence to the OP, but I highly doubt a Qunari would want to be in the role of Inquisition. Given the opinions made during DA:2 and the subsequent DLC, they seem to be very clearly of their own mind about things, and not interested in the petty squabbling of human politics. And the stand on magic seems to punch their line of being of their own mindset. Remember the quest of Hawke trying to release the Sarebas?

The Kossith were terrified that he was contaminated with demons. That would rule out a player's ability to play as a Kossith Mage, as in lore you not be capable of making your own choices, let alone leading, because you would have been shackled and if set free, you would likely kill yourself rather then risk being contaminated with demons. The only person I could see pulling it off would be someone like Tallis, who was Qunari (of the religion) but not a Kossith. I think you're hoping for the visually imposing Kossith and I just don't see it working. Not as the PC. Companion sure, but not the PC.

But the Qunari would be you, so you decided what your Qunari would want... and there opinions on such things. 

[daveliam]

In Exile wrote...

Filament wrote...

Out of hand? It's just the option to play one more race that exists in the world. How is that so radical compared to elves and dwarves? Because DAO didn't have it?

From a lore standpoint I really don't think it's any more radical to have a qunari leading the inquisition than an elf. It's not like it's a qunari and all his pals under the direction of the Arishok that are taking over. Presumably this one would be cut off from the homeland, a lone expatriate. I don't see the perception of that necessarily surpassing the viciousness of the general populous toward the elven race.

I don't think it's radical, I just think a qunari is rare enough that you'd need *lots* of reactive content. Basically, I think qunari might cost too much to do well. And you can't really have them speak with the same VO, because they have a different manner of expressing themselves, even as (former) Tal-Vashoth. 

This.  I wouldn't be opposed to the idea, but it would be pretty immersion breaking if there wasn't ALOT of unique dialogue and, possibly, changes to story archs directly relating to the fact that you are in a very unique position for your race.  It would just be odd if no one (or very few) reacted to this given that the Qunari are the least likely of the four majority races to lead the Inquisition.

[fchopin]

Filament wrote...

I have a sneaking suspicion that the reason race choice has substituted backgrounds so neatly, considering the whole "mysterious sole survivor" background we seem to have going on regardless of race, is going to be that good old chestnut "amnesia,"

Are you saying that the sole survivor inquisitor will have no memory and will not remember if he or she was responsible for the hole in the sky?
 
Interesting theory.