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[NeonFlux117]

 Very rarely do I link something from IGNorant.com but this blog was really good.

It poses the million dollar question? Literally. Millions of bucks are at stake for BioWare and EA's respective share holders for what is one of their most lucractive franchises. So... Guess will see soon huh. 


http://www.ign.com/b...h-mass-effect-4

[Iakus]

Interesting article. My personal phrasing of the question would be "Why should I trust you again?" but then I'm considerably less happy with the ending than the writer.

[Kel Riever]

These articles are nice in that they are thought out. But it just falls into the category of desparation for me. When I see people cheer the Citadel DLC, I understand. When they think it fixes the end of ME3, well, simply put it doesn't. Not until that Citadel DLC becomes one of the endings you can get from completing the series, without having to headcannon everything. My respect to those who do headcannon, but they are doing the work, not BioWare.

Summed up, the ending didn't have to be happy. And it certainly could have been too. But it was just atrocious, offering no choice of merit and making no sense. So until they fix the end of ME3, there is no point to any future release regarding the MEU. And as far as I'm concerned, BioWare or EA.

I don't care if the ending never gets fixed. I'm saving money not buying products from a bad company. But if universally people do keep buying products from a bad company, then there is no disincentive for that company. Its like the price of baseball or football tickets. People claim the prices are too high for the entertainment value they are getting, and then run and make sure they buy season tickets so they don't miss out. If I were that football stadium, I'd double my prices every month because there's no reason not to.

This guy is part of the problem as much as he wants to be part of the solution is what I am saying. If I was BioWare, I'd totally ignore what he said and do what I want, because he's going to buy it anyway.

[dreamgazer]

Interesting to read the comments section there as opposed to the opinions expressed on this board, with the exception of one or two familiar names.

Modifié par dreamgazer, 08 août 2013 - 03:34 .

[AlexMBrennan]

Haven't we read the exact same article on the forums a hundred times already?

[CrutchCricket]

Can Bioware Recapture The Magic With Mass Effect 4?

[Mcfly616]

Yeah....I've pretty much stated half the things he wants in the next game, right here on this forum.


One thing sticks out though. The guy says he would prefer it be a sequel to ME3 and saying: "We could still import saves and events could play out differently for our new characters based on what our Shepard did"


Really? Where did he get this info? I have a hard time believing importing is possible considering the new game will be on next gen hardware. How do we import from 360 to Xbox One? Or from PS3 to PS4?


Don't get me wrong, if it were possible to import our ME3 ending choice into the next game and have it shape the new setting of the MEU....that'd be the game I want.


But its just highly unlikely if not impossible.

[Iakus]

Mcfly616 wrote...

Yeah....I've pretty much stated half the things he wants in the next game, right here on this forum.


One thing sticks out though. The guy says he would prefer it be a sequel to ME3 and saying: "We could still import saves and events could play out differently for our new characters based on what our Shepard did"


Really? Where did he get this info? I have a hard time believing importing is possible considering the new game will be on next gen hardware. How do we import from 360 to Xbox One? Or from PS3 to PS4?


Don't get me wrong, if it were possible to import our ME3 ending choice into the next game and have it shape the new setting of the MEU....that'd be the game I want.


But its just highly unlikely if not impossible.

Given What the three ending choices represent (among other events in the game), further imports are almost certainly impossible without massively trivializing the choices

Well, trivializing the ending choice would work for some, but I could just hear the howls from others

[LiL Reapur]

CrutchCricket wrote...

Can Bioware Recapture The Magic With Mass Effect 4?

LOL!

[Mcfly616]

iakus wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

Yeah....I've pretty much stated half the things he wants in the next game, right here on this forum.


One thing sticks out though. The guy says he would prefer it be a sequel to ME3 and saying: "We could still import saves and events could play out differently for our new characters based on what our Shepard did"


Really? Where did he get this info? I have a hard time believing importing is possible considering the new game will be on next gen hardware. How do we import from 360 to Xbox One? Or from PS3 to PS4?


Don't get me wrong, if it were possible to import our ME3 ending choice into the next game and have it shape the new setting of the MEU....that'd be the game I want.


But its just highly unlikely if not impossible.

Given What the three ending choices represent (among other events in the game), further imports are almost certainly impossible without massively trivializing the choices

Well, trivializing the ending choice would work for some, but I could just hear the howls from others

I don't think importing is possible. But if it were, I think they could make the ending choice work on an aesthetic level. If you chose Control, there's still Geth. And maybe you'll see a Reaper or two guarding a Relay. If you choose Synthesis, everybody has some green circuitry and maybe you'll see a Reaper or two strolling over some mountain side in the distance. Choose Destroy....well that's simple.

I think, what makes it possible in my mind is that I dont feel that the Reapers would directly involve themselves in the conflicts of us lesser creatures. Sure, they share knowledge with us and all that, but I don't think they'd take sides in a conflict between two races. I think they'd get involved if the entire galaxy was threatened. But, I don't see them bothering in affairs such as krogan dropping an asteroid on a Turian moon.

So, it essentially comes down to eye candy. It alters the setting a bit, but doesn't affect the narrative.

It doesnt matter though. Importing is pretty much impossible.

[AlexMBrennan]

Really? Where did he get this info? I have a hard time believing importing is possible considering the new game will be on next gen hardware. How do we import from 360 to Xbox One? Or from PS3 to PS4?

Xbox and PS3 use generic hard drives - just attach them to a computer (using a dead cheap piece of hardware like this) and copy the files. It's not rocket science

[jontepwn]

Mcfly616 wrote...
Really? Where did he get this info? I have a hard time believing importing is possible considering the new game will be on next gen hardware. How do we import from 360 to Xbox One? Or from PS3 to PS4?

For Dragon Age Inquisition it will be possible to import your save game across platforms. The idea is that if you played on Xbox 360 for example, you can import your save game to the PC or PS4 or any other platform where it is available.

No details yet but it will probably be a cloud thing.

Modifié par jontepwn, 08 août 2013 - 05:26 .

[dreamgazer]

StreetMagic wrote...

jontepwn wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...
Really? Where did he get this info? I have a hard time believing importing is possible considering the new game will be on next gen hardware. How do we import from 360 to Xbox One? Or from PS3 to PS4?

For Dragon Age Inquisition it will be possible to import your save game across platforms. The idea is that if you played on Xbox 360 for example, you can import your save game to the PC or PS4 or any other platform where it is available.

No details yet but it will probably be a cloud thing.

What? Is that confirmed about DAI? Awesome.


Sorry /offtopic

Their desire to do so has been confirmed, but they haven't banged out the details. 

Cloud save management seems like the most likely answer, though. 

[crimzontearz]

Wanting bioware and ME to be great and them caring are different things

[Iakus]

Mcfly616 wrote...

So, it essentially comes down to eye candy. It alters the setting a bit, but doesn't affect the narrative.

Reducing the choices to eye candy is pretty much teh definition of trivializing the choice, at least to me.

"Sorry, geth, you died so everyone else can have green eyes."

[Steelcan]

The magic was gone long before the ending of ME3. The magic was gone the moment Shepard's "epic conclusion" turned to a railroaded paragon mess.

[wolfhowwl]

Steelcan wrote...

The magic was gone long before the ending of ME3. The magic was gone the moment Shepard's "epic conclusion" turned to a railroaded paragon mess.

The magic was gone in the intro.

I would have thought that Bioware would consider the moment of the Reaper's arrival to be one of the most important of the trilogy.

Yet they made it into that atrocious tutorial level.

[Steelcan]

wolfhowwl wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

The magic was gone long before the ending of ME3. The magic was gone the moment Shepard's "epic conclusion" turned to a railroaded paragon mess.

The magic was gone in the intro.

I would have thought that Bioware would consider the moment of the Reaper's arrival to be one of the most important of the trilogy.

Yet they made it into that atrocious tutorial level.

The hell is my renegade Cerberus supporting Shepars doing there in the first place...

[GreyLycanTrope]

Maybe if it's space magic.

[Bourne Endeavor]

iakus wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

So, it essentially comes down to eye candy. It alters the setting a bit, but doesn't affect the narrative.

Reducing the choices to eye candy is pretty much teh definition of trivializing the choice, at least to me.

"Sorry, geth, you died so everyone else can have green eyes."

Frankly, if they go for importing files. The Geth can have no relevance whatsoever since BioWare is terrified (or simply refuses) to make any choices where the result may lead to missed content. Since the Geth and Quarians can be completely wiped out. Any import feature is likely to render them ME2'd.

I do not fancy coop-narrative. The author's reference to The Old Republic is rather short sighted. MMOs often have generic and simplistic stories and characters due to ease of mass appeal. People complain about auto-dialogue. Imagine playing Mass Effect 3 was "player 2."

The only way such a implementation is remotely feasible would be scale the difficulty based on human players, increase both the amount of enemies and map sizes and restrict a significant portion of dialogue to optional content. Of course, now you have enormous landscapes for solo players that may bog down to tedious.

I simply cannot see any RPG with lengthy cut-scenes and frequent dialogue dumps appealing to "tag-long" partners in an otherwise single-player game.

[David7204]

Bit of an ugly Shepard.