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[JediBeagle]

AmRMa wrote...

Blank-Slate-Blues wrote...

What I'm worried about though is if we're locked into one background only per race. Like always being Dalish if you choose to play as an elf.

I mean it's only a small concern but still...

I think playing a Dalish Elf is slim to none because they said you play as a sole survivor whose town was destroyed, not many Dalish live in a town (I imagine since they seem to be nomads) or they could be ex-Dalish. Anyway it seems that people will be reacting to whether your an elf or dwarf ( or hopefully mage) not that your Dalish or a City-Elf since customizable backgrounds have been taken out in favor of races.

So yeah it kinda sounds like it is one background for everyone.

When/ where did they say we play as a sole survivor whose town was destroyed? If it's true then thanks for the info I hadn't heard anything like that yet!

Regardless of the backgrounds I don't really think we'll get to play as a dalish elf simply because they seem pretty difficult to interact into the type of story that DA:I seems to be. They seem to be quite isolated from others than their clan and seem to want to stay neutral so there would have to be a very compelling reason for them to leave their clans.  I would be very happy to be wrong though! :happy:

[9TailsFox]

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I can find exact video but Mark Darrah in one of the videos mention you are sole survivor of veil tearing apart we saw in trailer.

[Mimitochan]

Mykel54 wrote...
- When the protagonist was only human, there were several backgrounds to choose from, let´s imagine it was 3: noble, criminal, merchant. With the addition of races, these backgrounds are removed. Instead we get different races. Each race should obviously have at least one specific background: for example, the elf could very well be a city elf, and have the criminal background.
In this way bioware could reuse their old ideas and assign the past backgrounds to the new races (noble - human, merchant - dwarf).

Well that would be a pity, really.

I hope we are not restricted to human noble, dwarf merchant and elf criminal - following your example.
Adding races is only interesting if it adds to the player's sense of freedom in defining his or her character.
If I want to play a merchant and I'm stuck with a dwarf, or if I want to play an elf, but I'm stuck with a criminal, that would be disappointing. In that aspect, I would much rather have human only, from three selectable backgrounds.  

[dragondreamer]

I don't recall anything about the Inquisitor being the sole survivor of a town, just that they are the sole survivor of the veil rip incident. And even so, in the Dalish elf origin, we're told that the Dalish will sometimes go into towns to trade. So it isn't out of the question. But we don't know all the details of the story setup yet.

[Patchwork]

dragondreamer wrote...

I don't recall anything about the Inquisitor being the sole survivor of a town, just that they are the sole survivor of the veil rip incident. And even so, in the Dalish elf origin, we're told that the Dalish will sometimes go into towns to trade. So it isn't out of the question. But we don't know all the details of the story setup yet.

I vaguely remember DAO's codex saying that there are some clans which live near human towns in peace. Their clan being killed by the veil rip would be plenty of motivation for joining the Inquistion.

[dragondreamer]

Ser Bard wrote...

dragondreamer wrote...

I don't recall anything about the Inquisitor being the sole survivor of a town, just that they are the sole survivor of the veil rip incident. And even so, in the Dalish elf origin, we're told that the Dalish will sometimes go into towns to trade. So it isn't out of the question. But we don't know all the details of the story setup yet.

I vaguely remember DAO's codex saying that there are some clans which live near human towns in peace. Their clan being killed by the veil rip would be plenty of motivation for joining the Inquistion.

True, and with the Arlathvhen happening, there will be a lot of Dalish around...  

[In Exile]

dragondreamer wrote...

Ser Bard wrote...

dragondreamer wrote...

I don't recall anything about the Inquisitor being the sole survivor of a town, just that they are the sole survivor of the veil rip incident. And even so, in the Dalish elf origin, we're told that the Dalish will sometimes go into towns to trade. So it isn't out of the question. But we don't know all the details of the story setup yet.

I vaguely remember DAO's codex saying that there are some clans which live near human towns in peace. Their clan being killed by the veil rip would be plenty of motivation for joining the Inquistion.

True, and with the Arlathvhen happening, there will be a lot of Dalish around...  

And hopefully they stay far away, so that we can get a proper CE and don't be forced to be Dalish if we want to be an elf. 

[byarru]

In Exile wrote...

dragondreamer wrote...

Ser Bard wrote...

dragondreamer wrote...

I don't recall anything about the Inquisitor being the sole survivor of a town, just that they are the sole survivor of the veil rip incident. And even so, in the Dalish elf origin, we're told that the Dalish will sometimes go into towns to trade. So it isn't out of the question. But we don't know all the details of the story setup yet.

I vaguely remember DAO's codex saying that there are some clans which live near human towns in peace. Their clan being killed by the veil rip would be plenty of motivation for joining the Inquistion.

True, and with the Arlathvhen happening, there will be a lot of Dalish around...  

And hopefully they stay far away, so that we can get a proper CE and don't be forced to be Dalish if we want to be an elf. 

But what if we want to be AND dalish and ELF?

[dragondreamer]

In Exile wrote...

dragondreamer wrote...

Ser Bard wrote...

dragondreamer wrote...

I don't recall anything about the Inquisitor being the sole survivor of a town, just that they are the sole survivor of the veil rip incident. And even so, in the Dalish elf origin, we're told that the Dalish will sometimes go into towns to trade. So it isn't out of the question. But we don't know all the details of the story setup yet.

I vaguely remember DAO's codex saying that there are some clans which live near human towns in peace. Their clan being killed by the veil rip would be plenty of motivation for joining the Inquistion.

True, and with the Arlathvhen happening, there will be a lot of Dalish around...  

And hopefully they stay far away, so that we can get a proper CE and don't be forced to be Dalish if we want to be an elf. 

I'm hoping we'll be able to determine where our elf comes from ourselves.  Like with the mage elf origin in DA:O, it isn't stated where your elf originally comes from.  When you're asked about it, you can give different answers.

[AmRMa]

dragondreamer wrote...

I don't recall anything about the Inquisitor being the sole survivor of a town, just that they are the sole survivor of the veil rip incident. And even so, in the Dalish elf origin, we're told that the Dalish will sometimes go into towns to trade. So it isn't out of the question. But we don't know all the details of the story setup yet.

Yeah your right I watched the development video again and caught my mistake, but it still seems as if your background isn't aknowledged by people anymore just the race your playing. So you could be Dalish but it isn't going to make a difference to people you meet they will just be "You're an elf/knife ears."

[dragondreamer]

AmRMa wrote...

dragondreamer wrote...

I don't recall anything about the Inquisitor being the sole survivor of a town, just that they are the sole survivor of the veil rip incident. And even so, in the Dalish elf origin, we're told that the Dalish will sometimes go into towns to trade. So it isn't out of the question. But we don't know all the details of the story setup yet.

Yeah your right I watched the development video again and caught my mistake, but it still seems as if your background isn't aknowledged by people anymore just the race your playing. So you could be Dalish but it isn't going to make a difference to people you meet they will just be "You're an elf/knife ears."

Yeah, I'm fine with that.  They'll just react to you as an elf.  Which is extremely awesome on its own.  But I'd play a character differently as a Dalish than I would as a City Elf, it's more about how I'd approach the game in that respect rather than how others react to me.  So I'm hoping for some character flexibility.  That said, if we do get locked into one particular background, I'll be okay with it, still 500% better than being locked into human.  

Modifié par dragondreamer, 09 août 2013 - 05:53 .

[Cylan Cooper]

David Gaider wrote...

ziloe wrote...
I'm loving the news that we can pick various races again. Though, it's my understanding that it's also at the cost of our origin stories.

Careful when you say "origin stories". Someone might hear "origin" and think the playable origins from DAO. That was never in the cards, and that's why we called our original plan "backgrounds" instead.

There's too much reactivity during the game to that initial choice to allow for both race options as well as background options for each race. Much as that sounds cool to anyone who believe more is more, in this case it would have to come with the cost of either removing planned content from each of those variations (so they're individually smaller in scope) or... from somewhere else. We didn't want to do that, so the race/class combo effectively becomes the new background choice (along with all the subsequent reactivity).

So, to use Origins as a kinda bad, shoehorned example:

You'd start the game in Ostagar automatically. If you selected Dwarf Warrior as your race/class, you'd automatically have the Dwarf Noble background. Dwarf Rogue would get you Dwarf Commoner.

If so, and as long as human/elf mages have different backstories, I can dig it.

[Nefla]

I'm super ok with this, if it means race options I will gladly give up ME style backgrounds (which I liked btw but not anywhere near as much). I agree with faerunner that hopefully we will be able to fill in some RP blanks as the game progresses like you were able to do sometimes in DA:O. ex: Alistair's virgin conversation you can either say you are one too, you're not, or you're kind of a 'ho, Morrigan asks about your mother and you have different responses such as she's dead or you love her, or nothing special, an elf circle mage can say they're from the Denerim alienage, Highever, or they are not sure, etc...I would be all for getting more of that stuff

[Potato Cat]

Faerunner wrote...
Hear, hear!

With any luck, the game will be vague so we can fill it in for ourselves, or maybe a character or two can ask us about our background and we can get a few short responses ("I was born in Tevinter, till my parents escaped," "I lived with the Dalish for a while," "I was raised in an Alienage" "I was raised in the Circle" "I grew up in a small farming village"). Kind of like how Eadric asks the Elven Mage where they're from and you could pick Denerim, Highever, Lothering, or "I don't know." It didn't really affect story or gameplay beyond that moment, but it was a nice way of mentally creating a background for yourself.

I'm really not picky though. Like you said, ANY background wonderful! Dalish, Circle, Alienage, Tevinter--in the end, they're all elves!

I am hoping for some confirmation on this, even if it is the examples you gave, (which I would be perfectly happy with, I'm just glad I can finally be an elf again!). The worst thing they could do though is give us Dalish tattoos and then have some sort of in game confirmation we were never affiliated with the Dalish.

but if we are able to be Dalish, I would like to be a mage, if not, an archer. 

[Taleroth]

Faerunner wrote...

Not quite. It's more like you start the game in Ostagar, you go about your business, and if any characters happen to ask about your background, you can give different answers based on what works for your character. For example, all mage elves started off in the same Circle as humans, but if Eadric asks where you're from, you can say "Denerim," "Highever," "Lothering," "I don't remember." He basically says "Cool," and tells you about himself. 

No other in-game acknowledgement before or after, it's just there to let you fill in the blanks for yourself. =)

As it should be. This desire of some players to limit their own contribution to the story bothers me.

Modifié par Taleroth, 09 août 2013 - 08:18 .

[apple_sauced]

Are there any other races in Thedas we know of that could be playable race options in DLC or similar? The Game Informer article sort of suggests that the ability to play as a Qunari inquisitor isn't entirely unfathomable. (Maybe a stretch goal for the dev team? or a possible DLC release?)

[Blank-Slate-Blues]

Faerunner wrote...

dragondreamer wrote...

Yeah, I'm fine with that.  They'll just react to you as an elf.  Which is extremely awesome on its own.  But I'd play a character differently as a Dalish than I would as a City Elf, it's more about how I'd approach the game in that respect rather than how others react to me.  So I'm hoping for some character flexibility.  That said, if we do get locked into one particular background, I'll be okay with it, still 500% better than being locked into human.  

Hear, hear!

With any luck, the game will be vague so we can fill it in for ourselves, or maybe a character or two can ask us about our background and we can get a few short responses ("I was born in Tevinter, till my parents escaped," "I lived with the Dalish for a while," "I was raised in an Alienage" "I was raised in the Circle" "I grew up in a small farming village"). Kind of like how Eadric asks the Elven Mage where they're from and you could pick Denerim, Highever, Lothering, or "I don't know." It didn't really affect story or gameplay beyond that moment, but it was a nice way of mentally creating a background for yourself.

I'm really not picky though. Like you said, ANY background wonderful! Dalish, Circle, Alienage, Tevinter--in the end, they're all elves!

I would be very much okay with this actually. I wonder if the game would track what our inquisitor says during those conversations (probably too much too ask heh)

[Blank-Slate-Blues]

apple_sauced wrote...

Are there any other races in Thedas we know of that could be playable race options in DLC or similar? The Game Informer article sort of suggests that the ability to play as a Qunari inquisitor isn't entirely unfathomable. (Maybe a stretch goal for the dev team? or a possible DLC release?)

I wouldn't hold out too much hope for a kossith, even for DLC. Part of me almost thinks that Bioware was just teasing...

Although I am a bit of a cynic so who knows for sure?

Modifié par Blank-Slate-Blues, 09 août 2013 - 08:34 .

[Taleroth]

apple_sauced wrote...

Are there any other races in Thedas we know of that could be playable race options in DLC or similar? The Game Informer article sort of suggests that the ability to play as a Qunari inquisitor isn't entirely unfathomable. (Maybe a stretch goal for the dev team? or a possible DLC release?)

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[Tvorceskiy]

Maybe you're injured during the tear incident and lose your memory. No origin necessary =D

[Heimdall]

I'm a little nervous about the idea of origins set for races, but I guess as long as my female dwarf warrior can have a surfacer background I'm okay with it.

[ziloe]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

With the Game Informer article, we mention that we were able to bring back races as a result of pushing the game back a year.

It's nice to know it wasn't because of any game breaking bug.

[Thetford]

Well, if the sole survivor of the town burning down thing is true, it means our mages will be apostates (otherwise they would've been in the Circle), I wonder if that will be reflected in dialogue?