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[Fast Jimmy]

Enigmatick wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Mass Effect 2 did it fine.

Not really, it basically made it single character with a couple of guys who are sources of powers and occasionally inconveniently die.

Agreed. And also where if Shephard died, it was insta-game over.

Squaddies are too incompent to use medi-gel it seems.

Which is ironic, since Shephard is literally brought back to life with the Lazarus project. 

[Eterna]

Dodge roll?

Alpha footage that isn't nearly close to being done that I will judge anyways?

GG, Biowure in the ****ter.
Starting retake Dragon age movement.
Pre order cancelled.
Making cupcakes.
etc. 

Modifié par Eterna5, 16 août 2013 - 09:48 .

[JeffZero]

Pre-cancellation of tertiary pre-order inquisitively rendered moot.

[Fast Jimmy]

I'm pre-ordering with no deposit required and refusing to pick up my copy, therefore artificially inflating the amount of unpurchased retail copies with this reveal of combat.

Oh yeah. I'm devious.

Modifié par Fast Jimmy, 16 août 2013 - 09:53 .

[kinderschlager]

LPPrince wrote...

I find that when I play DA, I play it kinda like Mass Effect in that I maintain control over my character as much as possible, but frequently pause to order squadmates/companions to do certain actions.

If I ever relinquish control over my DA PC for one of his/her companions, its because my PC is down and I have no other choice.

that's how i do it. let the AI handle the companions. the PC is my guy and that's who i am playing as

[ArenCordial]

I know its pre-alpha but despite getting mildly excited by the previous videos this one was disappointing to me.

First the video goes on and on about strategy and tactics but we hardly see much of any of it. Instead it looks like the gameplay is Dragon's Dogma but you can control your pawns....I mean companions.

Finally I know everyone from Dragon's Dogma/The Witcher 2/Dark Souls is in love with roll, but rolling around in plate.....thats a pet peeve for me.

Modifié par ArenCordial, 16 août 2013 - 10:12 .

[leaguer of one]

Eterna5 wrote...

Dodge roll?

Alpha footage that isn't nearly close to being done that I will judge anyways?

GG, Biowure in the ****ter.
Starting retake Dragon age movement.
Pre order cancelled.
Making cupcakes.
etc. 

Seriously, why is a dodge an issue? Added, the movement are super slow any ways.

[Crevasse]

Tactical enemies... good! However, it seems the playability is still very much DA2, which is a little unnerving.

The weapon swings from the 2-Hander was good, you're swinging around some weighty metal, then you proceed to combat roll 10-15m as fast as lightning. I know it's still pre-alpha. But if I am a Warrior in heavy armor and a 2-handed sword any combat roll would be awkward, only move 2 feet and end up looking like a panda that has fallen on its head.

If the dodge mechanic is going to be there, just make it something simple like a 1m jump back to avoid a heavy swing. This could just be one little thing but it worries me that this could be their direction of abilities and gameplay, and everyone is going to turn into backflipping ninjas again.

[leaguer of one]

Wulfram wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Mass Effect 2 did it fine.

Not really, it basically made it single character with a couple of guys who are sources of powers and occasionally inconveniently die.

That if you did not use your character correctly. Letting Jack run around during battle is like litting you low armor mage fight in the front. I'll give bad ai but it's not like you did not control over them.
ME3 did it better any way.

[leaguer of one]

Crevasse wrote...

Tactical enemies... good! However, it seems the playability is still very much DA2, which is a little unnerving.

The weapon swings from the 2-Hander was good, you're swinging around some weighty metal, then you proceed to combat roll 10-15m as fast as lightning. I know it's still pre-alpha. But if I am a Warrior in heavy armor and a 2-handed sword any combat roll would be awkward, only move 2 feet and end up looking like a panda that has fallen on its head.

If the dodge mechanic is going to be there, just make it something simple like a 1m jump back to avoid a heavy swing. This could just be one little thing but it worries me that this could be their direction of abilities and gameplay, and everyone is going to turn into backflipping ninjas again.

That roll was super slow.

[Eterna]

leaguer of one wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Dodge roll?

Alpha footage that isn't nearly close to being done that I will judge anyways?

GG, Biowure in the ****ter.
Starting retake Dragon age movement.
Pre order cancelled.
Making cupcakes.
etc. 

Seriously, why is a dodge an issue? Added, the movement are super slow any ways.

It isn't.  Some people on the BSN are just opposed to any form of acrobatic manuever because they think it means the game will be too actiony.

God help Bioware if they ever decide to give us the ability to jump. 

Modifié par Eterna5, 16 août 2013 - 10:17 .

[ArenCordial]

Eterna5 wrote...

It isn't.  Some people on the BSN are just opposed to any form of acrobatic manuever because they think it means the game will be too actiony.

God help Bioware if they ever decide to give us the ability to jump. 

I wouldn't mind a dodge as an ability on the rogue with a cooldown.  But if its roll, roll, roll backstab again I've played that game many times before.  Plus on a Warrior in heavy armor...come on

[Northern Sun]

I can't tell the name on the Pursue thing(might be a G instead of a C, but it definitely says Warden Commander; and Adamant probably refers to Adamant Fortress in western Orlais, which was an abandoned Grey Warden fort that Pharamond was studying reversing the rite of tranquility at in the Asunder novel.

[leaguer of one]

ArenCordial wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

It isn't.  Some people on the BSN are just opposed to any form of acrobatic manuever because they think it means the game will be too actiony.

God help Bioware if they ever decide to give us the ability to jump. 

I wouldn't mind a dodge as an ability on the rogue with a cooldown.  But if its roll, roll, roll backstab again I've played that game many times before.  Plus on a Warrior in heavy armor...come on

That roll everyone is hung up about has to be the slowest roll I've ever seen in a game.

[ravnkl0]

did anyone else notice that they had the skyrim version of the map on the top?

[ArenCordial]

I just don't get how you take

Origins: Slow, deliberate, strategic combat

+

DA 2: Absurdly fast, flashy


=Dragon's Dogma w/controllable companions.

Don't get me wrong I liked DD but there's nothing Dragon Age like about it. From the initial impression DAO and DA2 actually look to have more in common with one another that either one with DA3.

I wouldn't have expected that at all from how they talked about it.

Modifié par ArenCordial, 16 août 2013 - 10:31 .

[Crevasse]

leaguer of one wrote...

Crevasse wrote...

Tactical enemies... good! However, it seems the playability is still very much DA2, which is a little unnerving.

The weapon swings from the 2-Hander was good, you're swinging around some weighty metal, then you proceed to combat roll 10-15m as fast as lightning. I know it's still pre-alpha. But if I am a Warrior in heavy armor and a 2-handed sword any combat roll would be awkward, only move 2 feet and end up looking like a panda that has fallen on its head.

If the dodge mechanic is going to be there, just make it something simple like a 1m jump back to avoid a heavy swing. This could just be one little thing but it worries me that this could be their direction of abilities and gameplay, and everyone is going to turn into backflipping ninjas again.

That roll was super slow.

I did exagerate the speed, but it's still too OTT for me. A combat roll for a heavy character in a melee is just too ridiculous. I am actually fine with it for rogues who are light armored, nimble and fast so long as it can't be used consecutively so that don't you end up rolling around the battlefield.

[RvnXE]

so did the new combat vid say/show anything about Mages and melee combat, if they can equip swords, etc.?

[Mr.House]

Can Bioware confirm we can zoom out with the camera?

[Wulfram]

Mr.House wrote...

Can Bioware confirm we can zoom out with the camera?

I guess they'll be shy about promising that sort of thing after the tactical camera thing in DA2

Modifié par Wulfram, 16 août 2013 - 10:41 .

[Sylvius the Mad]

Mr.House wrote...

Can Bioware confirm we can zoom out with the camera?

That's not going to happen for some time.  Their last official statement on it was that the camera was changing on a daily basis.

[Crevasse]

ravnkl0 wrote...

did anyone else notice that they had the skyrim version of the map on the top?

Yes. I fairly sure Bioware will be more inventive with the design for a compass and xp bar later on down the track. It really does look like they grabbed the ol' Skyrim stencil and sprayed it on. The rest of the HUD looks great.

Maybe they could make like a semi circle compass above the abilites. It would be better to have both elements in the lower part of the screen imo. Somewhere your eyes are going to be looking.

[MattH]

Crevasse wrote...
I did exagerate the speed, but it's still too OTT for me. A combat roll for a heavy character in a melee is just too ridiculous. I am actually fine with it for rogues who are light armored, nimble and fast so long as it can't be used consecutively so that don't you end up rolling around the battlefield.

Perhaps they could create a different dodge for each class? A side-step for the warrior, dodge roll for the rogue and, I don't know, perhaps something similar to the Asari's dodge in ME3 for the Mage?

[Nerevar-as]

JeffZero wrote...

ME3's got my favorite combat in the BioWare vaults so I feel pretty confident going into this after seeing the pre-alpha shades of today's video. I do hope for an isometric availability for those who desire as such though.

If a party based RPG plays similar to a TPS or beat´em up something has gone VERY wrong.

[Wulfram]

leaguer of one wrote...
That if you did not use your character correctly. Letting Jack run around during battle is like litting you low armor mage fight in the front. I'll give bad ai but it's not like you did not control over them.
ME3 did it better any way.

Strictly speaking you're right, but it never felt worth the hassle to me.