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[Ravensword]

dreamgazer wrote...

"BioWare has to scale back on the time spent on the romances in the grander scheme of the project."

(thumbs up)

[Angrywolves]

The way I read the GI update is Bioware is cutting back on romances, in DAI, and may have to cut further " in the grander scheme of things".
As I have said I believe they want a game comparable to skyrrim and deemphasizing romances, is part of the natural progression of getting there.
Making Bioware less of a nitch player in rpgs to a bigger player like Bethesda.
shrugs.

[Dermain]

SKRemaks wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Argahawk wrote...

its here

http://www.gameinfor...dragon-age.aspx

"We had to hire a CRIME REPORTER specifically just to do the work neccessary to chronicle the work involved (with keeping track of all the lore)..."

Seriously? That's pretty intense.

The former crime reporter is Ben Gelinas, the lead author of The World of Thedas lore book, if I remember correctly.

Well that's not encouraging seeing as WoT had a ton of mistakes...

[artsangel]

I think everyone is forgetting that Gaider already said a couple of months back that DAI would have no more or no less romance content than previous games. So stop worrying they know how popular it is, and how they are known for it.

[wright1978]

Ecmoose wrote...

 From the article on GI:

"BioWare has to scale back on the time spent on the romances in the grander scheme of the project. "The follower characters in general are enormously complex," Gaider says. "They're a massive investment in terms of gameplay and storytelling.""We try to push ourselves," Laidlaw adds. "We try to do things we haven't done before. We try to explore characters we haven't done before, but there comes a point in which you can afford only so much crazy."The team often has to reel themselves in, and they're well aware of criticisms about fans wanting more detailed, realistic romances. "

No where does the article say that DAI will have less romance then previous games, all it states is that the team has to keep themselves in check when it comes to romance, much like they had to do the last 2 games. Everyone is getting up in arms for no reason. 

Yeah i hope/assume it is just clumsy wording as cutting back already limited romance content would be pretty terrible imo.

[Angrywolves]

Things change.
Fewer employees due to layoffs.
One of the laid off employees admitted on his last day he had been working on romance content.
A new engine and the associated learning curve.
Trying to make this semi open world thing work.
Addition of extras the fans wanted.
We can't assume statements made by developers will always hold true to the nth degree.
Things do change.
shrugs.
When the game comes out we'll see how closely Bioware was able to adhere to their statements about the game.

[cJohnOne]

I watched Laidlaws video twice because I zoned out a little. I still missed parts of it but don't want to see it again. Anyone have a synopsis?

[Ecmoose]

Angrywolves wrote...

The way I read the GI update is Bioware is cutting back on romances, in DAI, and may have to cut further " in the grander scheme of things".
As I have said I believe they want a game comparable to skyrrim and deemphasizing romances, is part of the natural progression of getting there.
Making Bioware less of a nitch player in rpgs to a bigger player like Bethesda.
shrugs.

Except it didn't say that at all. The article said in the greater scheme they had to cut back...that's it. And then they go on to talk about how they had to reel themselves in everytime they write romance scenes, as in, for the other games as well.

At no point do they say "we have less romance". Instead  they say "we don't have as much romance as we'd like". Assuming that means they're cutting content is a very liberal interpretation of that statement.

Modifié par Ecmoose, 29 août 2013 - 11:51 .

[Ecmoose]

LPPrince wrote...

It shouldn't come as a surprise. A Song of Ice and Fire was one of the inspirations for Dragon Age.

Yeah I'm actually surprised the Wiki doesn't contain more Song of Ice and Fire triva because the whole series is rife with easter eggs.

[Ianamus]

I'm sure that Inquisition will have about as much romance content as Origins and DA:2. People are just reading far too much into one or two lines, as they always do.

[LPPrince]

Ecmoose wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

It shouldn't come as a surprise. A Song of Ice and Fire was one of the inspirations for Dragon Age.

Yeah I'm actually surprised the Wiki doesn't contain more Song of Ice and Fire triva because the whole series is rife with easter eggs.

*shrugs*

You can add them if you know where they are. Or contact whoever runs the wiki.

[Ecmoose]

LPPrince wrote...

Ecmoose wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

It shouldn't come as a surprise. A Song of Ice and Fire was one of the inspirations for Dragon Age.

Yeah I'm actually surprised the Wiki doesn't contain more Song of Ice and Fire triva because the whole series is rife with easter eggs.

*shrugs*

You can add them if you know where they are. Or contact whoever runs the wiki.

I'm not particularly worried about it, I'm just surprised how infrequently the comparisons between the two came up before the HBO series started. I know the books weren't HUGE at the time but ASOIAF fans tend to be rabid.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

Alistair does remind me of Jon Snow with the whole b*stard story and joining a group (Nights watch and Grey Wardens) that tackles undead monsters.

Modifié par DarkKnightHolmes, 30 août 2013 - 01:35 .

[Angrywolves]

I'm not so sure.
Fans were promised things about ME3.
For someone to say they're sure DAI will have as much romantic content as the previous games is just showing optimism like the ME3 fans had.
Trust all you want but verify.
shrugs.
We'll see.

[Ianamus]

Angrywolves wrote...

I'm not so sure.
Fans were promised things about ME3.
For someone to say they're sure DAI will have as much romantic content as the previous games is just showing optimism like the ME3 fans had.
Trust all you want but verify.
shrugs.
We'll see.

But you cannot give a single good reason why there wouldn't be as much content. 

David Gaider has specifically said before that they plan to keep the same ammount of romance content in future games. No more, no less. Why would Inquisition have less content than Dragon Age 2, a game that only had 11 months development time, when Inquisition has been given more than that as an extension? It's not even like there was a substantial amount of romance content to begin with. 

Saying that romance content will be cut down is just scaremongering and blind pessemism.

Modifié par EJ107, 30 août 2013 - 02:01 .

[LPPrince]

Tomorrow is the last day of coverage. Likely a recap.

[Paul E Dangerously]

EJ107 wrote...
Why would Inquisition have less content than Dragon Age 2, a game that only had 11 months development time, when Inquisition has been given more than that as an extension? It's not even like there was a substantial amount of romance content to begin with.

You're kidding, right? With the way the romances are handled in DA2 (read: nobody but Sebastian has any preference and will sleep with anything that moves) you've effectively got 50% more romance than you did in DAO, and it's not only more prominent, but handled much more clumsily. Even in DAO you had to go through some time to get to the romances, where in DA2 you could be locked in and ready after the first player-induced conversation after joining.

More talking and characterization, less mindless leg humping please.

Modifié par Sopa de Gato, 30 août 2013 - 07:31 .

[Liamv2]

I really hope we get some more on the combat.

[Andraste_Reborn]

Even in DAO you had to go through some time to get to the romances, where in DA2 you could be locked in and ready after the first player-induced conversation after joining.

You can sleep with Morrigan the first time you enter camp, and with Zevran almost immediately after he tries to kill you. With the DA2 love interests, it takes three whole years.

[Ianamus]

Sopa de Gato wrote...

EJ107 wrote...
Why would Inquisition have less content than Dragon Age 2, a game that only had 11 months development time, when Inquisition has been given more than that as an extension? It's not even like there was a substantial amount of romance content to begin with.

You're kidding, right? With the way the romances are handled in DA2 (read: nobody but Sebastian has any preference and will sleep with anything that moves) you've effectively got 50% more romance than you did in DAO, and it's not only more prominent, but handled much more clumsily. Even in DAO you had to go through some time to get to the romances, where in DA2 you could be locked in and ready after the first player-induced conversation after joining.

More talking and characterization, less mindless leg humping please.

All four LI's being available to either gender isn't "more conent" its just giving existing content to more people. Dragon Age 2 had about the same amount of romance content as Origins: Four LI's, about the same number of scenes, and it still amounts to <1% of total game time at the most. 

Whether or not you liked DA:2's romances has nothing to do with what I said. 

Modifié par EJ107, 30 août 2013 - 01:28 .

[andar91]

So I don't know if it just went up or something, but there's a new update that apparently isn't the last one. It's a video about the lore. http://www.gameinfor...dragon-age.aspx

It's nothing huge. It's just Mike Laidlaw talking about some stuff about the series in general. Nothing actually new about DAI that I could see except for, perhaps, the restatement that they want to tie up some loose ends.

Also, those clocks are precious!

Modifié par andar91, 30 août 2013 - 04:07 .

[Baelyn]

Liamv2 wrote...

I really hope we get some more on the combat.

Considering there is an entire panel at PAX dedicated to combat, I'm sure you will get that then. 

[LPPrince]

andar91 wrote...

So I don't know if it just went up or something, but there's a new update that apparently isn't the last one. It's a video about the lore. http://www.gameinfor...dragon-age.aspx

It's nothing huge. It's just Mike Laidlaw talking about some stuff about the series in general. Nothing actually new about DAI that I could see except for, perhaps, the restatement that they want to tie up some loose ends.

Also, those clocks are precious!

Check the OP.

[Sandy]

Any ETA on the last update?

[Eagle Pusuit]

45 minutes to an hour, probably.