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#1826
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They never said voices are going to be limited by race. Maybe they'll do a number of voices for each gender, that's available for all races. Maybe with filters or customization possible...

I'm really glad to hear that they are incorporating some sort of diplomacy!

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hey, LPPrince, thanks for the summary.

glad to hear that there's still some room for mages to equip other weapons besides swords.

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LPPrince wrote...

Added podcast details to OP


Thank you very much!

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You're very welcome.

As far as mages equipping other weapons, slow down. We know that warriors in past games had swords/shields and great swords, rogues with bows and daggers, but mages only really had staves.

He didn't say there'd be more weapons included for mages, just that squaddies should be able to have their weapons switched out with others in their class, meaning Isabella with a bow or Alistair with a great sword.

Nothing on mages with anything other than staves as of yet.

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LPPrince wrote...
Podcast Details-
*Non-combat skills and progression is being explored

*You can level up knowledge in certain subjects like for example nobility, opening up new persuasion options

*Combat abilities having non-combat effects are being explored, such as warriors bashing down doors

*Agents are people who will perform events on your behalf to open up new quests and paths

Nice, an expansion to non-combat skills would be great. I would be all over this if this became reality, especially if they concern dialog

Am I correct in thinking that the Agents will basicly be the same system as in Assassins Creed? That you can send them on far away missions to retrieve an artifact or something as a sort of mini-game without them actually be a big part of the story?

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Thats what I thought of when I heard about agents. I compared them to assassin recruits.

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LPPrince wrote...

nightcobra8928 wrote...

there needs to be a banter about rogues being the only ones that could lockpick doors when you first bash a door in XD

well...until we reach a reinforced door anyway.


Gonna lol if a warrior repeatedly trying to bash an impossible to breach door gets ridiculed by his/her party.


O.o

this needs to be in-game

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Kimosabe0 wrote...

Nice, an expansion to non-combat skills would be great. I would be all over this if this became reality, especially if they concern dialog


This.

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Kimosabe0 wrote...

LPPrince wrote...
Podcast Details-
*Non-combat skills and progression is being explored

*You can level up knowledge in certain subjects like for example nobility, opening up new persuasion options

*Combat abilities having non-combat effects are being explored, such as warriors bashing down doors

*Agents are people who will perform events on your behalf to open up new quests and paths

Nice, an expansion to non-combat skills would be great. I would be all over this if this became reality, especially if they concern dialog

Am I correct in thinking that the Agents will basicly be the same system as in Assassins Creed? That you can send them on far away missions to retrieve an artifact or something as a sort of mini-game without them actually be a big part of the story?


i hope not. that thing was so clunky

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LPPrince wrote...

You're very welcome.

As far as mages equipping other weapons, slow down. We know that warriors in past games had swords/shields and great swords, rogues with bows and daggers, but mages only really had staves.

He didn't say there'd be more weapons included for mages, just that squaddies should be able to have their weapons switched out with others in their class, meaning Isabella with a bow or Alistair with a great sword.

Nothing on mages with anything other than staves as of yet.


well, I'd be happy if mages just got more than one staff weapon style.

like a regular staff for casting and ranged auto-attacks.

and bladed staves for up-close melee combat.

each weapon style would have their own skill tree, just like the other weapon styles.

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This game informer info throughout the last month was laughable.

This podcast was also redundant.

Everything they asked him had already been revealed.

P.S. LPPrince, if i remember correctly, Laildaw said you will be able to make your character look however you want. The only thing that's missing from the details, although it's not a big thing, they announced it at crafting&customization last friday anyway.

Thanks for the trouble though :]

I sat and heard the podcast as well.

P.S. For Mages and weapons, well, they already get heavy armor, and their staves are not quarterstaffs or walking sticks. They are staff-swords, staff-spears etc. But Laildaw said they are still experimenting with that, like, how to use weapons that are exclusive to other classes. He specifically said that it is a maybe, at this point.

Modifié par Kuroi Kishin, 03 septembre 2013 - 08:44 .


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RvnXE wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

You're very welcome.

As far as mages equipping other weapons, slow down. We know that warriors in past games had swords/shields and great swords, rogues with bows and daggers, but mages only really had staves.

He didn't say there'd be more weapons included for mages, just that squaddies should be able to have their weapons switched out with others in their class, meaning Isabella with a bow or Alistair with a great sword.

Nothing on mages with anything other than staves as of yet.


well, I'd be happy if mages just got more than one staff weapon style.

like a regular staff for casting and ranged auto-attacks.

and bladed staves for up-close melee combat.

each weapon style would have their own skill tree, just like the other weapon styles.


Well you wouldn't really want a mage to be in the thick of combat under normal circumstances so I don't really see that happening. 

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ArtemisMoons wrote...

Well you wouldn't really want a mage to be in the thick of combat under normal circumstances so I don't really see that happening. 


Martial Mages are being hinted. It's just not the majority of Mages that follow that road. You can already equip heavy armor.

Also, as i said, Staves are pointy or bladed anyway, even in DA2 they were like that. So what exactly don't you see happening? It already happened.

Plus, even in DA2, you could stand in the thick of melee without problems with a proper build.

Modifié par Kuroi Kishin, 03 septembre 2013 - 08:48 .


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and one of the "themes" the devs have brought up so far in DAI is giving players more freedom in how they want to build their characters.

I really don't see why, if a player wants to build a melee-oriented mage, equipped with a bladed staff or sword or whatever, that should be denied to the player.

there will be 3 styles of warrior ( sword and shield, 2h, and dual wield ).

we're assuming there will be at least 2 styles for rogues ( archery and dual wield daggers ).

why should mages be limited to only 1 style? ( and yes, I know that the variety of spells will make up for that ).

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Dual wielding is not guaranteed for warriors. Its possible, but Laidlaw said it himself, he thinks of dual wielding as more of a rogue thing.

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I guess to me, it doesn't make sense as a mage (imo) generally tends to focus on magic boosting skills rather than stamina and health. lol
Where was it said that mages could wear heavy armor? I must have missed that.

@LP
Now you know the BSN hears that something MIGHT be looked into (not even said that it might happen, but that they will look at it and go from there) and that means that it's coming back. xD

Modifié par ArtemisMoons, 03 septembre 2013 - 09:01 .


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I hate when that happens. :/

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LPPrince wrote...

*Non-combat skills and progression is being explored

*You can level up knowledge in certain subjects like for example nobility, opening up new persuasion options

*Combat abilities having non-combat effects are being explored, such as warriors bashing down doors


That was a cool part of the podcast.  In general I've wanted a way to level up character's knowledge to affect conversations in different ways instead of just having a persuade or intimidate option.   That's one of those things where I'd really like to see games evolve, but I won't get my hopes up too much.  Whatever they do in that direction could be cool though, and I like how they seem to be thinking.

Modifié par Giltspur, 03 septembre 2013 - 09:25 .


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I love the expansion of the persuade system. I also like how Mike said your Agents have limited resources, meaning you won't be able to unlock everything. It provides more of an incentive to try different paths in additional playthroughs. Not that there was any doubt I'd play Inquisition more than once.

Modifié par COGNiTiON 1, 03 septembre 2013 - 09:28 .


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I'm really going to miss the gameinformer news every few days. Now what am I going to do?

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COGNiTiON 1 wrote...

I love the expansion of the persuade system. I also like how Mike said your Agents have limited resources, meaning you won't be able to unlock everything. It provides more of an incentive to try different paths in additional playthroughs. Not that there was any doubt I'd play Inquisition more than once.


I love that it's based on a knowledge system. Know more about nobility, and you can use that to persuade the nobles (and maybe even those who serve them).

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LPPrince wrote...

Christopher Walken tho


Need to be Jason Stephens

#1848
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ArtemisMoons wrote...

I guess to me, it doesn't make sense as a mage (imo) generally tends to focus on magic boosting skills rather than stamina and health. lol
Where was it said that mages could wear heavy armor? I must have missed that.

@LP
Now you know the BSN hears that something MIGHT be looked into (not even said that it might happen, but that they will look at it and go from there) and that means that it's coming back. xD


Who said martial mages are about stamina and health? There are magic ways to protect yourself, there always were. A Dragon Age Mage is not an archetypical D&D Wizard however, people seem to mix the two quite often.

Mages can wear heavy armor, as was said in the crafting and customization panel, which you will be able to see in a video in the next week probably. Their staves even from DA2 were pointy in various ways as well, and Vivienne's staff in a previous video was shown to have a pointy edge, if i remember correctly.

However, no one says that their playstyle will be like a Warrior, no, there will be distinct differences. If you want, a different way to approach melee combat, if you so wish, spell heavy however.

But even if armor is open, weapons at this point are not. Laidlaw said maybe, about having warriors dual wield or mages with more than staves.

What they said exactly was like, you can have your character look however you want, there is not one specific look to a class. Like, you can be a warrior in full plate, or in leather like Conan, and additionally, you can have your Mage wear heavy armor as well, while being able to keep the style how you want.

But, you have to admit, more melee inclined Mages do not seem so strange at this point.

I mean, heavy armor, a bladed staff, Qunari, you know big, tough, well... you get the point.

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#1849
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I'll have to take your word on the armor bit since I haven't seen (or even really heard anything) about the crafting & customization panel.
In that case, it lessens the oddity of a more melee oriented mage, though I will still likely stick to a mostly magical character. Why attack with a bladed stave when I can throw giant fireballs at things? xD

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Well, true, you can just blast them away. It's always fun though to make them ponder if you're gonna hack them or blast them first.

Always loved the suspense :P

As for the armor, you'll see it soon enough, there is info about it in 2 other threads, the twitter one and the Q&A of PAX, also on ladyinsanity's site, but it's too troublesome to look for it now :P :wizard:

Modifié par Kuroi Kishin, 03 septembre 2013 - 10:10 .