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[Flamesz]

Why don't Elves get any Facial hair option? Do they not get facial hair or something? I know it's a small matter but i'm very picky. Sorry :/

[Benzii]

Hmm good point but name one fantasy game with elves with beards in apart from WoW

[Killian Kalthorne]

Generally elves lack body hair of any kind, including down below, with the exception on what is on their head.

[Flamesz]

Killian Kalthorne wrote...

Generally elves lack body hair of any kind, including down below, with the exception on what is on their head.

Yeah, well that makes TOTAL sense.

[Noobius_Maximo]

Elves are not manly enough.

[CptPatch]

Think of Native Americans (North American Indians). No facial hair.

[WarlordThor]

Flamesz wrote...

Killian Kalthorne wrote...

Generally elves lack body hair of any kind, including down below, with the exception on what is on their head.

Yeah, well that makes TOTAL sense.

Dare I ask, where in the lore is this stated or alluded to? 

[DoctorPringles]

WarlordThor wrote...

Flamesz wrote...

Killian Kalthorne wrote...

Generally elves lack body hair of any kind, including down below, with the exception on what is on their head.

Yeah, well that makes TOTAL sense.

Dare I ask, where in the lore is this stated or alluded to? 

Do you really want to know?

[Drayvenn]

CptPatch wrote...

Think of Native Americans (North American Indians). No facial hair.

From Wikipedia:
The claim that Native Americans cannot grow facial hair is a common misconception and stereotype. Some tribes have possessed genetic traits to grow mustaches and most Native Americans can grow beards.

The more you know.

[JaymesGaGa]

Tolkiens lore and also that of Eragon fantasy world stated that their Elves can't grow body hair.

Although there was the Elf at Mithlond with a beard, but that was a unique instance.

Modifié par JaymesGaGa, 18 janvier 2010 - 08:51 .

[Drax_Lyonsbane]

Drayvenn wrote...

CptPatch wrote...

Think of Native Americans (North American Indians). No facial hair.

From Wikipedia:
The claim that Native Americans cannot grow facial hair is a common misconception and stereotype. Some tribes have possessed genetic traits to grow mustaches and most Native Americans can grow beards.

The more you know.

Wikipedia is the worst source of actual information the world has ever known.
That quote, if one doesn't think about it, makes it sound as though it is common for Native Americans to have facial hair when the truth is, it is only common when our our "genetic make up" has been altered by breeding with other peoples, such as those fron Europe, for example.
No pure blooded Native Americans, not sure that any exist now, are capable of growing more than sparse facial hair. It simply never was in our genetic make up.

The more you know.

Edit to correct a smelling mistake.

Modifié par Drax_Lyonsbane, 18 janvier 2010 - 09:03 .

[johook213]

Weis and Hickman's Dragonlance series also states that elves cannot grow facial or body hair.  It references this many times when Tanis Half-Elven grows a beard that "no elf can grow"

[mrbarnard]

Drax_Lyonsbane wrote...

Drayvenn wrote...

CptPatch wrote...

Think of Native Americans (North American Indians). No facial hair.

From Wikipedia:
The claim that Native Americans cannot grow facial hair is a common misconception and stereotype. Some tribes have possessed genetic traits to grow mustaches and most Native Americans can grow beards.

The more you know.

Wikipedia is the worst source of actual information the world has ever known.
That quote, if one doesn't think about it, makes it sound as though it is common for Native Americans to have facial hair when the truth is, it is only common when our our "genetic make up" has been altered by breeding with other peoples, such as those fron Europe, for example.
No pure blooded Native Americans, not sure that any exist now, are capable of growing more than sparse facial hair. It simply never was in our genetic make up.

The more you know.

Edit to correct a smelling mistake.

Wow. Who should I believe? A Wikipedia article with 3 quoted sources and numerous pictures? Or some random dude on a message board? Hmmm....

Modifié par mrbarnard, 18 janvier 2010 - 10:34 .

[Kavva]

DA:O is a spiritual succesor of BG with moded AD&D rule set and in those rules you have black on white that elves cant grow a beard. Huh... elves with beards - it doesnt feel right ;p

Modifié par Kavva, 18 janvier 2010 - 10:38 .

[Ryngard]

Spend time on a reservation and tell me how many have beards.

[Cuuniyevo]

Ignoring all posts except the original, the real reason that most Elves in most fantasy worlds have no facial hair is because they were originally conceived as being eternally youthful. That has changed in stories over the years, but that concept of eternal youth is still in the back of most writer's heads, and even if they desired to make a statement and put a beard on their Elven character, some crazy Elf-lovers would object so they play it safe and have them smooth-skinned.

For instance, can you imagine Elrond with a Gandalf beard? Or Legolas with an Eomer beard? I know Dragon Age is in a different universe, so hypothetically, they can change any stereotype they want and get away with it, but it's reached a point where putting a beard on an Elf would basically be saying, "We don't have real Elves in this universe." It'd be like having Dwarves that dislike alcohol, or Humans as a whole race that were peace-loving. It's not that such things couldn't or shouldn't ever happen in fantasy tales moving forward, but I don't think those stereotypes will be broken any time soon.

[DoctorPringles]

Then again, the elves in DAO are no longer "real elves" to begin with. They've essentially lost their culture and their extended lives due to their captivity by the humans. It would make sense if they began showing signs of becoming human themselves, such as facial hair.

[Sarielle]

Drayvenn wrote...

CptPatch wrote...

Think of Native Americans (North American Indians). No facial hair.

From Wikipedia:
The claim that Native Americans cannot grow facial hair is a common misconception and stereotype. Some tribes have possessed genetic traits to grow mustaches and most Native Americans can grow beards.

The more you know.

A lot of them can't though...

Same with Asians. Boyfriend has about 5 hairs he has to shave on his face, lol.

[Bullets McDeath]

I lived in New Mexico for several years and spent alot of time in Taos, where there is a large Native American population. No beards.

[Monica21]

mrbarnard wrote...

Drax_Lyonsbane wrote...

Drayvenn wrote...

CptPatch wrote...

Think of Native Americans (North American Indians). No facial hair.

From Wikipedia:
The claim that Native Americans cannot grow facial hair is a common misconception and stereotype. Some tribes have possessed genetic traits to grow mustaches and most Native Americans can grow beards.

The more you know.

Wikipedia is the worst source of actual information the world has ever known.
That quote, if one doesn't think about it, makes it sound as though it is common for Native Americans to have facial hair when the truth is, it is only common when our our "genetic make up" has been altered by breeding with other peoples, such as those fron Europe, for example.
No pure blooded Native Americans, not sure that any exist now, are capable of growing more than sparse facial hair. It simply never was in our genetic make up.

The more you know.

Edit to correct a smelling mistake.

Wow. Who should I believe? A Wikipedia article with 3 quoted sources and numerous pictures? Or some random dude on a message board? Hmmm....

If you look at the sources, not a single one is scholarly. Anyone can find a website that supports what they believe, but just because it has a source doesn't make it true. The American Indians are of Asian descent hence, very little body and facial hair.

[TheGriffonsShallRiseAgain]

dude ive lived in PR. There are indians there as well, for those who dont know they are called Taino, and frankly, its hard to find one without facial hair.

[TheGriffonsShallRiseAgain]

To the first question, I agree. It seems rather dull of them not having facial hair. I mean not even a stubble? Stubbles rae youthful aswell. Not a full blown beard but a stubble would be nice.

[Tosheroon]

So, Native Americans are the reason why elves in Dragon Age do not have facial hair? Interesting.



I always thought it was because if you ignore too many stereotypical conventions regarding a fictional race, they cease to actually be said race.

[Nattfare]

Nah, they're bald in the face because they aren't manly enough to wear a beard.

[Cuuniyevo]

Nattfare wrote…

Nah, they're bald in the face because they aren't manly enough to wear a beard.

Not manly? What? Check this out and see if you can say that again. Maybe it's just my avatar talking, but that guy's pretty hot.