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[Jalil]

I see how it is. *pouts*

[LPPrince]

I see how it is. *pouts*

 

It's true. With every level up at that point, you're doing a significant amount of more damage, you can take more damage, etc etc. A 25 would have to be carried by the rest of the team. A 26 less so but still, a 27 could manage, a 28 and above could handle it. A 30 would be perfect.

[FraQ]

You should always be the same level or higher as the mobs you are fighting.

 

Normal raid is 26.

 

Heroic is 30.

 

Unfortunately you will need loot from the Heroic to reach 30 so level 29 is acceptable but taking someone in there that is level 28 is just wasting everyone's time.

[Jalil]

How am I supposed to get the mats I need to up my Legendaries then?

[LPPrince]

How am I supposed to get the mats I need to up my Legendaries then?

 

Daily Heroics, Public Events, etc etc

[spirosz]

Yep.  Most people for normal, do not take under 27, for reasons stated above.  You'll die faster and you'll do less damage if you're not at level 27 - it would be seen as baggage, no offence.  It's really not that hard to hit 27 either, just stick with gear you're comfortable with (Legendary and one Exotic preferably) and level them up.  I'm 29 with maxed everything, but I haven't gotten any Raid gear yet - so, otherwise, the only real hassle is farming the materials needed and getting enough ascended shards.  Just keep doing daily story missions on higher levels (if you can, even if someone rushes you through, that helps) and public events for the either Shards or Energy.  

[Obadiah]

How am I supposed to get the mats I need to up my Legendaries then?

Welcome to the grind.

[LPPrince]

You should always be the same level or higher as the mobs you are fighting.

 

Normal raid is 26.

 

Heroic is 30.

 

Unfortunately you will need loot from the Heroic to reach 30 so level 29 is acceptable but taking someone in there that is level 28 is just wasting everyone's time.

 

And even then you need a solid team. Chris messaged me last night about a group of randoms that were at Atheon on Hard so we joined them and tried it, but a few of them REALLY didn't know what they were doing, kept making the same mistakes, etc etc. Couldn't get past it so we split.

 

Our regular raid group could do it, we just need everyone at Level 29 at least.

[FraQ]

Welcome to the grind.

 

[spirosz]

It might feel like it will take a while, but it won't, trust me - if you're able to play with friends, time will fly.  Plus, there is no rush to Raid, unless you've done everything so many times (as I'm at the state where I'm burned out on the game currently), another tip is if you don't plan to use another character, like for example - I never plan to play a Titan, I dismantle the Legendary armor I've gotten from them and you can get Shards like that as well, but that is if you don't plan to have other characters.  I have a level 8 Warlock, that I eventually plan to play with (I already have all his gear except for a Legendary chest piece) in my vault, which ironically, I've gotten all from Blue Engrams and I have those Exotic gauntlets as well from Xur (Sunbreakers).  

[LPPrince]

Also, if you need help getting materials or want to do the Raid more than once, create multiple characters of the same class.

 

Get the new character to level 20, then after you complete a certain activity with your primary character, put all of your primary character's gear in the vault, and transfer it over to the new character at 20. They'll get all the gear your first character had, and then you can try again.

This is how some people farm ascendents and raid gear. Matter of fact, I only got my raid chest piece because I used my second character and completed the raid on normal twice. Once I got the gear, I transferred it back to my original character.

 

I think you can make up to six characters? I don't intend to play as warlocks or titans so if I'm MENTAL, I'll make six hunters, run them through the same things(raids, dailies, etc etc) and get gear that way.

[spirosz]

I thought you could only make 3?  Maybe it's six. 

[LPPrince]

I thought you could only make 3?  Maybe it's six. 

 

I'm going by what I've heard, I only have two hunters.

[Dermain]

Aye, a 25 shouldn't be doing the raid. Level 27 or higher, preferably 28 or above.

 

Uh-huh...you still kicked me for being level 27!!!         

[Gravisanimi]

Uh-huh...you still kicked me for being level 27!!!         

It's Prince, I'm willing to bet my avi that he didn't kick you.

 

At least on purpose.

 

And you see this avi? This is prime avi right here, this is the Exotic class avi.

[LPPrince]

It's Prince, I'm willing to bet my avi that he didn't kick you.

 

At least on purpose.

 

Yeah, I wasn't the party leader. I couldn't kick someone even if I wanted to, besides the fact I looked away, came back, one was gone and another reappeared. Chris didn't either, so no clue. I can't remember who was leader of the party, only the fire team.

[BigEvil]

I'm going by what I've heard, I only have two hunters.

 

I've got one of each class. At least on PS4, it doesn't give me the option of starting a new game anymore since I created my third character. Which kind of sucks, because I would have liked to have six, one for each subclass.

[Drone223]

And even then you need a solid team. Chris messaged me last night about a group of randoms that were at Atheon on Hard so we joined them and tried it, but a few of them REALLY didn't know what they were doing, kept making the same mistakes, etc etc. Couldn't get past it so we split.

 

Our regular raid group could do it, we just need everyone at Level 29 at least.

Having raid armor is really helpful (I'm level 29 with only one piece of regular legendary armor with the rest being raid and the helmet being exotic). I've still have to bet Atheon.

[LPPrince]

Having raid armor is really helpful (I'm level 29 with only one piece of regular legendary armor with the rest being raid and the helmet being exotic). I've still have to bet Atheon.

 

We had people dying to the supplicants too often, the person with the relic rushing ahead too aggressively to kill the minotaur on the right side when in the time stream, the relic holder going too far ahead causing the people shooting the oracles to have their screens go black and thus be unable to see anything, etc etc. We got close to completing it once, but whatever happened and it wasn't the time. And that was a group of 29's, some of which with raid gear.

 

I really want my regular raid group to be full 29's. hahaha

 

Most of us are.

[Drone223]

We had people dying to the supplicants too often, the person with the relic rushing ahead too aggressively to kill the minotaur on the right side when in the time stream, the relic holder going too far ahead causing the people shooting the oracles to have their screens go black and thus be unable to see anything, etc etc. We got close to completing it once, but whatever happened and it wasn't the time. And that was a group of 29's, some of which with raid gear.

 

I really want my regular raid group to be full 29's. hahaha

 

Most of us are.

I've still have yet to defeat him on Normal, but its usually a good idea to split the group into two teams those who are good doing the portal segments and others and the others stay behind and keep the gate open. 

 

P.S This guide could help you a bit with the hard mode.

 

http://www.gamefaqs....estiny/70193885

[ME_Fan]

Hit level 20 about 12 game hours ago. Still, all blues (rares) no legendaries. Do the daily heroic story and a level 24 raid each day for nearly a week. All I've got to show for it are blues, greens, and motes of light. Goddamn this game has ffing awful loot systems.

[SlottsMachine]

Which auto rifle is better? Doctor Nope or Shadow Price if I have there names right. The Vanguard ones basically. 

[Dean_the_Young]

How am I supposed to get the mats I need to up my Legendaries then?

 

Kill enough enemies in a region and you'll get a chance to double your resource gains from harvesting and chests. And knowing where the spawn caves are- those have chests that regularly respawn and usually give you a resource item.

 

The easiest resource to grind, by far, are the spirit blooms from Venus. Just go left from the start to the Fallen area, and you can do circuits around the area which has five or so spawn caves and numerous resource points. I was often able to get two or three chests per circuit around the area, plus the occassional plan picking, once I walked all the walls in the area.

 

On Mars, the intro area between the start point and the Dust Palace is the best area. Aside from a few caves and open-air chests on the plateau, that area where the Cabal and geth Ves fight eachother has four different points a chest can spawn: one in the Vex cave, two of the Cabal spawn rooms from the fortified hallway, and the very end of the hallway itself (away from the circle room with a mission beacon). The first level of the Dust Palace also has two spawn rooms, as well as a chance for a resource spawn in the dust room or immediately outside, so I often just bounce between the planet start point and Dust Palace.

 

The cosmodrone... that's a bit harder. Fewer caves and obvious chest spawn points, and none that you can reliably circuit near the start. Spinmetal often grows alone the outer walls of buildings, though, and it's easier to see against rusty walls, so it's more tedius but still possible.

 

As for helium fragments... **** the moon. Seriously, **** it. I've never found fragments in the Hellmouth or any of the Hive areas, and only very rarely find a chest in a building in the fallen zones.

[Dean_the_Young]

Which auto rifle is better? Doctor Nope or Shadow Price if I have there names right. The Vanguard ones basically. 

 

Doctor Nope is basically a needle machine gun, IIRC. I had it's predecessor assault rifle, and dayum. Max rate of fire? You don't need impact to stagger any foe.

 

I'm working towards that one, even as I'm working on my Exotic Pulse Rifle quest. 25 Vanguard strikes should get me there, I'd hope.

[BigEvil]

The cosmodrone... that's a bit harder. Fewer caves and obvious chest spawn points, and none that you can reliably circuit near the start. Spinmetal often grows alone the outer walls of buildings, though, and it's easier to see against rusty walls, so it's more tedius but still possible.

 

The Rocketyard is a good spot to farm chests and spinmetal. There's a video showing all the chest spots and generally the spinmetal is nearby to it. I quite often get 3-5 chests going round there.

 

Rocketyard chest locations