Armour sets influenced by the Fallen and Hive? Damn, I've been wanting something like this. Still need more details on whether the expansions will be worth if for someone who isn't going to be doing stuff that doesn't have matchmaking, but it's interesting.
I'm free to do the raid on Thursday if any one is on X1 send me a PM.
Finally found the Thunderdevil shader from a Cryptarch package today and like Gravisanimi said, it is indeed a very cool shader (especially on my Voidfang Vestments).
Also fully upgraded my Gjallarhorn rocket launcher, so now I'm mostly ready for the next Atheon encounter, lol (as long as I'm not the one who picks up the relic). However, I am really NOT happy with Bungie's decision to make the teleportation completely random - that was not a bug or glitch, that was how the encounter was intended to function! Plus it throws player tactics and roles completely out the window 
it just feels like with each new patch, Bungie is trying to limit players on how they play the game, which seems at odds with their "open world" and "player teamwork" BS that they keep spitting out in their weekly blogs (how can a team develop teamwork and work on individual roles that each player does for the team when the game makes all of that totally f***ing pointless with random teleportation in the final encounter?).
Some pretty cool gear and weapons for the Expansions (since I got the LE, I automatically will receive both), but I don't know about those helmets for the Warlock, I still think that the "Facade of the Hezen Lords" helm from VoG looks better (maybe they look better in-game). Looks like they're not upping the level cap, though, based on the Strike missions still being listed as being levels 26/28 and the Raids at levels 26/30 (unless that is just temp data). I'm also still curious if Bungie's gonna introduce some kind of feature that allows the player to equip two pieces of exotic armor or use two exotic weapons at the same time.
Teleportation is not completely random. The furthest three players from Atheon at the time of teleporting will be put into the time stream. The three nearest to Atheon will remain.
The only element of teleporting that is random is which of the two sides during the Atheon fight the teleported team will be sent to- Left side/Desert/Mars, or Right side/Forest/Venus. The teleported team needs to call out which side they got sent to and if they happen to be on the right side/forest/Venus, they'll need to deal with a particularly dangerous minotaur.
Otherwise, should be smooth sailing if a team knows what they're doing and does it well. The raid will occasionally screw a team over at no fault of their own, but that can be overcome in later attempts.
Teleportation is not completely random. The furthest three players from Atheon at the time of teleporting will be put into the time stream. The three nearest to Atheon will remain.
The only element of teleporting that is random is which of the two sides during the Atheon fight the teleported team will be sent to- Left side/Desert/Mars, or Right side/Forest/Venus. The teleported team needs to call out which side they got sent to and if they happen to be on the right side/forest/Venus, they'll need to deal with a particularly dangerous minotaur.
Otherwise, should be smooth sailing if a team knows what they're doing and does it well. The raid will occasionally screw a team over at no fault of their own, but that can be overcome in later attempts.
Important note you forgot: make sure the person with the shield gets teleported.
Important note you forgot: make sure the person with the shield gets teleported.
Aye, relic holder must get teleported.
Some pretty cool gear and weapons for the Expansions (since I got the LE, I automatically will receive both), but I don't know about those helmets for the Warlock, I still think that the "Facade of the Hezen Lords" helm from VoG looks better (maybe they look better in-game). Looks like they're not upping the level cap, though, based on the Strike missions still being listed as being levels 26/28 and the Raids at levels 26/30 (unless that is just temp data). I'm also still curious if Bungie's gonna introduce some kind of feature that allows the player to equip two pieces of exotic armor or use two exotic weapons at the same time.
I'm not sure how much is confirmed, but I saw something the other day (another, further leak) which showed more stuff for the second expansion, which included a level 32 version of a raid (I assume the hard version) so you've got to figure a level cap increase would be in there too.
I'm personally hoping that being able to use to exotic armour pieces would be part of, or one way, to level up beyond 30. Given that they can't really introduce armour that requires a higher level to wear (because as soon as you take something upgraded off to put on the new un-upgraded piece, you'll drop light levels), they'll need to have armour that gives more light. One way to given options would then be two exotics instead of needing the legendaries with higher light. So I hope that will happen at some point.
Teleportation is not completely random. The furthest three players from Atheon at the time of teleporting will be put into the time stream. The three nearest to Atheon will remain.
The only element of teleporting that is random is which of the two sides during the Atheon fight the teleported team will be sent to- Left side/Desert/Mars, or Right side/Forest/Venus. The teleported team needs to call out which side they got sent to and if they happen to be on the right side/forest/Venus, they'll need to deal with a particularly dangerous minotaur.
You didn't read the patch plan notes for this week, did you? They're changing it so that any 3 random players are teleported through the time stream, NO LONGER the 3 people furthest from Atheon like it was before:
The encounter goal for Atheon is to act as a climax and the culmination of learning for a given Raid group. Part of that is making sure that each player in your group can perform every job as required. A change will take effect next week which fixes a bug with Atheon's target selection. When using its Timestream ability, Atheon will select 3 players at random, instead of choosing the three players furthest from it.
Needless to say, that's completely FUBAR in my opinion
Oh.
Oh.
OH.
OH *EXPLETIVE* ME.
OH *EXPLETIVE* ME SIDEWAYS.
Bungie, why are you TRYING to make things NOT fun?
You didn't read the patch plan notes for this week, did you? They're changing it so that any 3 random players are teleported through the time stream, NO LONGER the 3 people furthest from Atheon like it was before:
Needless to say, that's completely FUBAR in my opinion
Can i get a link to where this is because there is no patch notes up yet, the only thing they confirmed was the fixing the atheon cheese and buffing the vex mythoclast.
Oh ****. As someone who just (finally) completed the Raid today as a member of the portal team, it was our coordinating and communication that made our success possible. We each knew our role when we were teleported, and it was only through the communication between the portal and outside team that made my first time beating Atheon even possible.
If they change this I don't know if I'll ever be able to complete a raid again, unless I am with five other people that have done every role before. Since I am in a clan that may be possible. But we all know where we work best, and I work best shooting oracles inside the portal.
Are Raids especially hard? I'd like to Plat this, and the Flawless Raider trophy is... 0.1%.
Are Raids especially hard? I'd like to Plat this, and the Flawless Raider trophy is... 0.1%.
That would require a team to complete the raid with not a single player ever dying(as in, being downed).
That is one of the hardest things to do. The best chance of that is a full team of level 30's taking on the Vault of Glass on normal and that is STILL with everyone knowing what they're doing and with no one making a single mistake. There is a LOT of room for error.
Can i get a link to where this is because there is no patch notes up yet, the only thing they confirmed was the fixing the atheon cheese and buffing the vex mythoclast.
http://www.bungie.ne.../News?aid=12295
Read under the "Atheon" paragraph.
That would require a team to complete the raid with not a single player ever dying(as in, being downed).
That is one of the hardest things to do. The best chance of that is a full team of level 30's taking on the Vault of Glass on normal and that is STILL with everyone knowing what they're doing and with no one making a single mistake. There is a LOT of room for error.
Thought so. I suppose I guess I better farm like Hell, then. 
Oh.
Oh.
OH.
OH *EXPLETIVE* ME.
OH *EXPLETIVE* ME SIDEWAYS.
Bungie, why are you TRYING to make things NOT fun?
Because Bungie does not know how to balance an MMO.
Man I can't wait for the Master Chief Collection, Dragon Age Inquisition, and Assassin's Creed Unity. Eff.
Oh ****. As someone who just (finally) completed the Raid today as a member of the portal team, it was our coordinating and communication that made our success possible. We each knew our role when we were teleported, and it was only through the communication between the portal and outside team that made my first time beating Atheon even possible.
If they change this I don't know if I'll ever be able to complete a raid again, unless I am with five other people that have done every role before. Since I am in a clan that may be possible. But we all know where we work best, and I work best shooting oracles inside the portal.
My clan mates and I have been indirectly preparing for this for some time. Relic is fun anyhow. Regardless, you will now need atleast four players that can wield the Relic. It shouldn't completely **** up most teams, but the fact that Deej opened up this week's news update with "There should be no single answer for how to win in Destiny." should seriously bother the community. They're making it so that there are fewer ways to run the Vault of Glass now.
Are Raids especially hard? I'd like to Plat this, and the Flawless Raider trophy is... 0.1%.
Not if you've ran it a dozen times by now. You'll need dedicated players for Flawless Raider, though, with nerves of steel for the platforming section especially. It can be done, though.
P.S. for those of you wanting to attempt Flawless Raider, it has to be done in one sitting, and you cannot goto orbit at any point. If someone disconnects then that also equates to a fail.
Not if you've ran it a dozen times by now. You'll need dedicated players for Flawless Raider, though, with nerves of steel for the platforming section especially. It can be done, though.
P.S. for those of you wanting to attempt Flawless Raider, it has to be done in one sitting, and you cannot goto orbit at any point. If someone disconnects then that also equates to a fail.
I can't even get past the Moon Strike mission yet, so I have a long ways to go. 
Also, just played the first Venus level, and that's my favourite so far.
My raiding group wanted to go and do the hard Raid day just after the reset but before the new patch went live (2am Pacific time) so they could defeat Atheon one last time with that cliff glitch. So I got up at 4am in the damn morning to do the hard Raid with them, spent 2 damn hours playing through it...... and all I f***ing got was ascendant shards, 2 pairs of the gloves which I already have, another helmet which I already have, and the fricken' TImebreaker sparrow which I also already have.... Not even a different stats variant of the armor pieces, not even a single new weapon.
F*** this game and f*** Bungie for making one of the worst RNG reward drop systems I've seen in a video game.
Don't play this game expecting loot. That is the quickest way to get frustrated.
I think I must have pissed off the RNG gods or something..... did the Nightfall this afternoon and all I received was more ascendant shards. 
One of the guys I did it with, on the other hand, got the Patience and Time exotic sniper rifle.
Can finally see why people make new characters, even if it's in a class that they don't really like, it gives them more chances to do the Nightfalls and Raids and potentially earn better loot from this bulls**t of a random reward system.
My raiding group wanted to go and do the hard Raid day just after the reset but before the new patch went live (2am Pacific time) so they could defeat Atheon one last time with that cliff glitch. So I got up at 4am in the damn morning to do the hard Raid with them, spent 2 damn hours playing through it...... and all I f***ing got was ascendant shards, 2 pairs of the gloves which I already have, another helmet which I already have, and the fricken' TImebreaker sparrow which I also already have.... Not even a different stats variant of the armor pieces, not even a single new weapon.
F*** this game and f*** Bungie for making one of the worst RNG reward drop systems I've seen in a video game.
You think you're getting fucked?
3 Nightfalls. 3 Raids, 1 on Hard. Nothing... apart from 30-some Ascendant Shards.
You think you're getting fucked?
3 Nightfalls. 3 Raids, 1 on Hard. Nothing... apart from 30-some Ascendant Shards.
Lucky
I would LOVE to get some Ascendent Shards, but no….. Destiny feels that 55 Ascendent Energy is a much better reward 
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