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[Seival]

KaiserShep wrote...

Dead reapers at the end of ME3 means that everything is neutralized. The reaper nanites are also dead. No reaper signal. No indoctrination. The reapers are deader than dead. If every reaper is dead, what's going to indoctrinate them? The Cata ooooh that's dead too.

How did you usually call such line? Ah yes: headcanon.

I'm afraid you have no proof of your assumptions. And I have the Derelict Reaper right here - in ME2.

Modifié par Seival, 11 août 2013 - 04:39 .

[Mr.House]

Seival wrote...

KaiserShep wrote...

Dead reapers at the end of ME3 means that everything is neutralized. The reaper nanites are also dead. No reaper signal. No indoctrination. The reapers are deader than dead. If every reaper is dead, what's going to indoctrinate them? The Cata ooooh that's dead too.

How did you usually call such line? Ah yes: headcanon.

I'm afraid you have no proof of your assumptions. And I have the Derelict Reaper right here - in ME2.

I have a destroyed CItadel and Reapers drifting through space because everything including their drive core is dead(that dead Reaper still had power and a working drive core)

[KaiserShep]

Seival wrote...

KaiserShep wrote...

Dead reapers at the end of ME3 means that everything is neutralized. The reaper nanites are also dead. No reaper signal. No indoctrination. The reapers are deader than dead. If every reaper is dead, what's going to indoctrinate them? The Cata ooooh that's dead too.

How did you usually call such line? Ah yes: headcanon.

I'm afraid you have no proof of your assumptions. And I have the Derelict Reaper right here - in ME2.

I guess I must've head-canon'd the rebuilt Citadel, and the rebuilt civilizations shown in the epilogue. I guess I missed the swath of indoctrinated people mindlessly milling about.

The derelict reaper was torn apart by a mass accelerator weapon, not zapped to death by a dark energy device.

Modifié par KaiserShep, 11 août 2013 - 04:51 .

[Seival]

Mr.House wrote...

Seival wrote...

KaiserShep wrote...

Dead reapers at the end of ME3 means that everything is neutralized. The reaper nanites are also dead. No reaper signal. No indoctrination. The reapers are deader than dead. If every reaper is dead, what's going to indoctrinate them? The Cata ooooh that's dead too.

How did you usually call such line? Ah yes: headcanon.

I'm afraid you have no proof of your assumptions. And I have the Derelict Reaper right here - in ME2.

I have a destroyed CItadel and Reapers drifting through space because everything including their drive core is dead(that dead Reaper still had power and a working drive core)

Assumptions. Assumptions everywhere.

Who told you how badly the Reapers were damaged in case of Destroy? The only source is corresponding cinematic, and in that cinematic the Reaper ships are almost intact. They just fell down.

[ruggly]

I can just hear the heartbreak if they don't have reapers in the next ME.

[KaiserShep]

Seival, the epilogue basically has their remains removed entirely from the planets they invaded. If people weren't indoctrinated during that process, they're not going to get indoctrinated at all.

The irony here is that you detest this ending because of the fate of the geth, yet there's no proof in the game that they're destroyed other than the catalyst saying it's going to happen. Oh wait, he also says that the reapers will be destroyed if you pick that choice too. Inconsistencies. Inconsistencies everywhere.

Modifié par KaiserShep, 11 août 2013 - 04:56 .

[Mr.House]

ruggly wrote...

I can just hear the heartbreak if they don't have reapers in the next ME.

More like tears of joy.

[Seival]

KaiserShep wrote...

Seival wrote...

KaiserShep wrote...

Dead reapers at the end of ME3 means that everything is neutralized. The reaper nanites are also dead. No reaper signal. No indoctrination. The reapers are deader than dead. If every reaper is dead, what's going to indoctrinate them? The Cata ooooh that's dead too.

How did you usually call such line? Ah yes: headcanon.

I'm afraid you have no proof of your assumptions. And I have the Derelict Reaper right here - in ME2.

I guess I must've head-canon'd the rebuilt Citadel, and the rebuilt civilizations shown in the epilogue. I guess I missed the swath of indoctrinated people mindlessly milling about.

The derelict reaper was torn apart by a mass accelerator weapon, not zapped to death by a dark energy device.

Since when epilogue slides means anything to you?

You still believe that Synthesis turned everyone into the Reapers? But Synthesis slides show no such thing.

So please, accept Synthesis as it is in the epilogue, and then we can discuss Destroy slides. Otherwise - the horror-survival post-destroy is the only possible post-destroy.

[KaiserShep]

Now now, don't lie, Seival. I never said anything of the sort about synthesis. Others have made the claim that people "become reapers", but you won't find such comments from me. There's no horror survival, post-destroy. You can head-canon all that if you want, but it basically shows a rebuilt Citadel, rebuilt earth, Tuchanka, wherever the heck the Quarians are, etc.. Maybe Zaeed is pitted against the elements in his slide, but given his character, he's probably enjoying himself. Even freaking Falere seems to be doing alright with Samara. Yeah it's a real horror show.

Modifié par KaiserShep, 11 août 2013 - 05:01 .

[Mr.House]

I do accept synth ending as it's shown, the only way it works that way is via mind control, else people like would Javik would have fought back and died.

[AresKeith]

ruggly wrote...

I can just hear the heartbreak if they don't have reapers in the next ME.

I look forward to Sevial's Auld Wulf type rants when he sees no Reapers

[Andrew Lucas]

We all know that Shepard stories is over we have to let it go,its sad but it is the truth....

[Seival]

KaiserShep wrote...

Now now, don't lie, Seival. I never said anything of the sort about synthesis. Others have made the claim that people "become reapers", but you won't find such comments from me.

Great!

Now please, tell me what did you learn from the Synthesis epilogue. Describe your feelings about the Synthesis. Tell me, sincerely, why this ending is really good, and maybe I will find something good in Destroy ending.

[GreyLycanTrope]

KaiserShep wrote...

Now now, don't lie, Seival. I never said anything of the sort about synthesis. Others have made the claim that people "become reapers", but you won't find such comments from me.

You know the "haters" have just turned into an indiscernible composite blob for him. We're not individuals anymore just a singular consensus known as Buzz Killington.

[Mr.House]

Greylycantrope wrote...

KaiserShep wrote...

Now now, don't lie, Seival. I never said anything of the sort about synthesis. Others have made the claim that people "become reapers", but you won't find such comments from me.

You know the "haters" have just turned into an indiscernible composite blob for him. We're not individuals anymore just a singular consensus known as Buzz Killington.

Do we have outfits?

[GreyLycanTrope]

I'd assume it's just T-shirts with the word "Nope" written on them. Oh and a "My name is Buzz" name tag.

[zed888]

I am entitled to an outfit.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Synthesis kills puppies: fact.

This meme is my undeniable evidence.

http://cdn.meme.li/i...0x/40478629.jpg

It's my proof.

Let's not resort to headcanon and denial. The Reapers are dead post-Destroy.

100% dead. They have no chance of returning.

My new Cerberus will use the Reaper tech to rebuild society. It's going to be quite prosperous. A golden age.

No synthesis is necessary.

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 11 août 2013 - 07:34 .

[Wynterdust]

There is a distinct difference between the words "derelict" and "dead".
The ME2 reaper was derelict not dead. That is why it could still indoctrinate. Post-Destroy reapers are dead. Huge difference.

[chidingewe8036]

Thank you guys for responding to my post I appreciate it, all I can do is hope Bioware has a good sequel up there sleeves, I can't take anymore heartbreak from them regarding this title and I am sure many other fans agree.

[Seival]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Synthesis kills puppies: fact.

This meme is my undeniable evidence.

http://cdn.meme.li/i...0x/40478629.jpg

It's my proof.

Let's not resort to headcanon and denial. The Reapers are dead post-Destroy.

100% dead. They have no chance of returning.

My new Cerberus will use the Reaper tech to rebuild society. It's going to be quite prosperous. A golden age.

No synthesis is necessary.

Everything have a chance of returning in new stories. Even if it was completely dead in previous stories. So I think you should be prepared for great reveals and surprises in the following several years. The Reapers are too important for MEU to just get rid of them forever.

Modifié par Seival, 11 août 2013 - 09:17 .

[AresKeith]

Seival wrote...

Everything have a chance of returning in new stories. Even if it was completely dead in previous stories. So I think you should be prepared for great reveals and surprises in the following several years. The Reapers are too important for MEU to just get rid of them forever.

The Reapers are done along with Shepard's story

They are not that damn important to the MEU

[David7204]

If there's no conflict, there's no story. And no matter how much people kid themselves into thinking Mass Effect would have been great with no Reapers and just character interactions, they're wrong. A great deal of the content people love about the the characters could not have existed without a threat such as the Reapers.

Modifié par David7204, 11 août 2013 - 09:22 .

[AresKeith]

David7204 wrote...

If there's no conflict, there's no story. And no matter how much people kid themselves into thinking Mass Effect would have been great with no Reapers and just character interactions, they're wrong. A great deal of the content people love about the the characters could not have existed without a threat such as the Reapers.

Mass Effect didn't need a galactic threat like the Reapers to be a good game

And the Reaper plot wasn't a bad idea, if it was properly planned

[David7204]

You really don't need anything more than good gameplay to be a good game.

But you do need great conflict for great triumph and great heroism to exist. And here's the part where people shriek at me for saying the word 'heroism,'  despite that basically being the reason they find the characters compelling at all. 

Modifié par David7204, 11 août 2013 - 09:29 .