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[DarkKnightHolmes]

Mr.House wrote...

DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

Varric is not the Garrus of Dragon Age.

That title belongs to Alistair since his been in DAO, Awakening, DA2 and even got his own comic book series.

Well they both whine and complain, so it fits, I guess.

Since I'm a bigger Loghain fan than Alistair, I agree!

Modifié par DarkKnightHolmes, 11 août 2013 - 06:14 .

[Twisted Path]

I just hope the Varric we see in the new game has some key differences from the Varric we saw in DA2 to emphasize the fact that DA2 was his own larger-than-life story. Maybe if they can give the character some flaws and shortcomings while still making him likable.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Mr.House wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

Mr.House wrote...
Your Warden saved Ferelden, not the world.

Well practically yes theoretically after blight destroys ferelden will attack orlais until destroy world  eventually blight will be stoped but how much archdemon will destroy before this happens and even if world would be able defeat blight well we have Corypheus who can control grey wardens and many others unfavorable factors so that blight had chance.

Dwarfes from Orzamar, a few dalish clans/pack of werewolves, mages/templars from Fereldens circle, the remaining Ferelden military and three Wardens where able to defeat the Fifth blight, I highly doubt Orlais who had far more warriors, three circles of magi and more then a hundred wardens would have had a problem with the fifth blight if Ferelden was destroyed. The fifth blight was thw weakest blgiht and it shows. So no, the Warden did not save the world, no matter how much the warden fanboys/fangirls want it to be so.

That was not enough to defeat blight only enough to our character would kill archdemon and grey wardens have Coryheus who can control grey wardens so they might be in bad position. And we don't know how others blights look but that our character managed stop blight because defeated archdemon doesn't mean that was weakest blight only that character saved day because s/he is killing machine.

I don't even mention about intelligent darkspawn.

Modifié par TheKomandorShepard, 11 août 2013 - 06:36 .

[M-Taylor]

Zeldrik1389 wrote...

Tbh, I thought Varric's design was kinda ridiculous. I'm a fan of classic dwarves like Gimli or Oghren: epic beard, almost always drunk, hot headed, and are beasts in close combat. Varric is pretty much opposite: He has no beard, fancy clothes (thoguh imo, look a bit gay), a rogue with crossbow, and a story teller of all thing.

But of all the companions in DA 2, he was pretty much the only interesting one because of his witty tongue, and somewhat carefree nature. Compare to others (some whiny emo freaks, a serious he-woman, a socially retarded, overly fluffy bloodmage, Mr. Stick in the mud prince / chantry brother ...) I'd say he's the only one I don't mind having around again.

I think they are going to bring back companions from DA 2 anyway (to have some kind of connection between games???). So, well Varric is the best choice there.

You sound like a delightful person.

[Mr.House]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

Mr.House wrote...
Your Warden saved Ferelden, not the world.

Well practically yes theoretically after blight destroys ferelden will attack orlais until destroy world  eventually blight will be stoped but how much archdemon will destroy before this happens and even if world would be able defeat blight well we have Corypheus who can control grey wardens and many others unfavorable factors so that blight had chance.

Dwarfes from Orzamar, a few dalish clans/pack of werewolves, mages/templars from Fereldens circle, the remaining Ferelden military and three Wardens where able to defeat the Fifth blight, I highly doubt Orlais who had far more warriors, three circles of magi and more then a hundred wardens would have had a problem with the fifth blight if Ferelden was destroyed. The fifth blight was thw weakest blgiht and it shows. So no, the Warden did not save the world, no matter how much the warden fanboys/fangirls want it to be so.

That was not enough to defeat blight only enough to our character would kill archdemon and grey wardens have Coryheus who can control grey wardens so they might be in bad position. And we don't know how others blights look but that our character managed stop blight because defeated archdemon doesn't mean that was weakest blight only that character saved day because s/he is killing machine.

I don't even mention about intelligent darkspawn.

Uh what are you talking about? Corypeus is not in Orlais, nor do the wardens in Orlais have anything to do with him, why are you bringing him up? As for we don't know how the other blights look, this is false. We know that every other blight but the fifth lasted for a long time and some blgihts like the second did alot of damage to certain areas of thedas to the point where they are still corrupted and the fifth blight is said to be stopped before it truly started. The fifth blight is the weakest because it was stopped by a smaller force then other blights in the past and it did not last long at all, nor would this blight have been a threat to Orlais.

[TNT1991]

I don't mind Varric. Aveline and him were my only favorite new characters from DA2.

However, I am a bit worried about how the DA team will handle his return. Will it be the same Varric that everyone loves? Or will it be a new "Varric" that will be the complete opposite of the old Varric from the last game (like Anders transition from Awakening to DA2).

Crossing my fingers for the same and lovable Varric...

[Eterna]

They brought him back because not everyone shares your opinion that he is boring.

Shocking I know.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Mr.House wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

Mr.House wrote...
Your Warden saved Ferelden, not the world.

Well practically yes theoretically after blight destroys ferelden will attack orlais until destroy world  eventually blight will be stoped but how much archdemon will destroy before this happens and even if world would be able defeat blight well we have Corypheus who can control grey wardens and many others unfavorable factors so that blight had chance.

Dwarfes from Orzamar, a few dalish clans/pack of werewolves, mages/templars from Fereldens circle, the remaining Ferelden military and three Wardens where able to defeat the Fifth blight, I highly doubt Orlais who had far more warriors, three circles of magi and more then a hundred wardens would have had a problem with the fifth blight if Ferelden was destroyed. The fifth blight was thw weakest blgiht and it shows. So no, the Warden did not save the world, no matter how much the warden fanboys/fangirls want it to be so.

That was not enough to defeat blight only enough to our character would kill archdemon and grey wardens have Coryheus who can control grey wardens so they might be in bad position. And we don't know how others blights look but that our character managed stop blight because defeated archdemon doesn't mean that was weakest blight only that character saved day because s/he is killing machine.

I don't even mention about intelligent darkspawn.

Uh what are you talking about? Corypeus is not in Orlais, nor do the wardens in Orlais have anything to do with him, why are you bringing him up? As for we don't know how the other blights look, this is false. We know that every other blight but the fifth lasted for a long time and some blgihts like the second did alot of damage to certain areas of thedas to the point where they are still corrupted and the fifth blight is said to be stopped before it truly started. The fifth blight is the weakest because it was stopped by a smaller force then other blights in the past and it did not last long at all, nor would this blight have been a threat to Orlais.

Corypheus wasn't in orlais but he is awaken so he could support blight by controling wardens.We don't know how others blights look we only know what was effects and events in them.Second orlais isn't powerful as were before.And that was shortest blight doesn't mean that was weakest blight just world had luck that the warden killed that before blight menaged start last blight was 400 years ago so darkspawn would have bigger army than in previous blights (except maybe first and second) it is all about killing archdemon fourth blight lasted 12 years and enden because archdemon was slain.

[Jerrybnsn]

Eludajae wrote...

I figured Varric would be here because he has become the narrator of DA history now. I expect him to be around for a long time.

After DA2's story, Varric is no longer allowed to tell anymore lies.  I hear Morgan Freeman will be narrating DA3.

[AresKeith]

Jerrybnsn wrote...

Eludajae wrote...

I figured Varric would be here because he has become the narrator of DA history now. I expect him to be around for a long time.

After DA2's story, Varric is no longer allowed to tell anymore lies.  I hear Morgan Freeman will be narrating DA3.

Morgan Freeman is busy being the Maker 

[Gervaise]

I think Varric is included because he is a link not only to DA2 but to the comic books as well, so it allows for the PC to be made aware of events elsewhere that Varric was involved with. Not having read the comics, I don't really understand why Varric was involved with Alistair's quest seeing as there was no real link there, apart from Isabella and even she was only a brief acquaintance in Origins, so why Alistair would look to them for help is a bit of a puzzle.

It would also be helpful to know why Varric has suddenly developed a wanderlust. I seem to recall that he was very attached to Kirkwall and assumed that was why Cassandra was able to catch up with him like she did. So must assume that will also be explained if he is to be a companion.

I suppose the chief reason why he is the only companion to transfer is that he is the only one you couldn't romance (apart from Aveline who would naturally want to stay with her husband), so no matter what your Hawke did he would have ended the story in the same state. Any of the others could have disappeared with Hawke.

[Blessed Silence]

x-aizen-x wrote...

 I just don't get why so many people liked varric. It's not that I did not like him it's that he was so damn boring. His crossbow thing was so useless and he did nothing interesting. So why did they bring him back. My favorite characters were sten and morrigan. 

His crossbow is named Bianca!  *shakefist*

But in all seriousness, Varric is that type of character that just ... fits.  I don't know why but with his "narrator" role in DA2, and his connection to your Hawke character, I could see him either following Hawke or perhaps he made a promise to Hawke to help stop the upcoming war/rip/mess.

And as a side note, how was he useless?  Holy cow he killed mobs quick for me outside the major damage my Elemental/Force mage did.  I understand each their own, and I adored Sebastian as well, but no character in Dragon Age was ever worthless (Final Fantasy .. oooh I can count a dozen in that series).

[Iakus]

My concern with Varric returning is that he might get the Anders treatment: end up being changed so much he may as well be a different character altogether.

[Overdosing]

I just hope Varric plays a sensible and somewhat important role in the game. I would love for Brian Bloom to voice him again.

[Volourn]

Anders never simply changed. He developeed in a meaningful way like any good characetr should.


varric is awesome.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

Volourn wrote...

Anders never simply changed. He developeed in a meaningful way like any good characetr should.


varric is awesome.

Meaningful characters = one-dimensional whiner who says nothing but 'mages' every 5 second.

[Volourn]

Says the guy who is still whining about him months after the game was released. L0L

And, yes, he was meaningful. Nor was he one dimensional. And, I say that as someone who disapproved of his actions. But, hey, should have always remained the one dimensional idiot who went on about stupid kats. L0L

[Nefla]

He's one of the few characters who are normal instead of super crazy/angsty/needy/etc...Personally though I liked him I wish we would have 100% new characters as companions. :/

[The Spirit of Dance]

Crossbow thingy? Bianca is offended.

[Druk-Qs]

Eterna5 wrote...

They brought him back because not everyone shares your opinion that he is boring.

Shocking I know.

These are the worst kinds of posts

[elfdwarf]

i hope bianca the crossbow is more customizable then da2 version

Modifié par elfdwarf, 12 août 2013 - 08:08 .

[Zetheria Tabris]

Volourn wrote...

Says the guy who is still whining about him months after the game was released. L0L

And, yes, he was meaningful. Nor was he one dimensional. And, I say that as someone who disapproved of his actions. But, hey, should have always remained the one dimensional idiot who went on about stupid kats. L0L

Whether you think he was meaningful or not, Anders' character was completely erased and rewritten for DA2. He is nothing like he was in Awakening. People try to say it's because of Vengeance. I think that's a poor excuse.

With that said, I hope Bioware doesn't put the same fate on Varric. It'd be a shame if he went from a lovable, charming, neutral rogue to a crazy extremist like Anders did.

[sylvanaerie]

 Personally, I liked Varric.  I dislike most of the dwarf characters with their arrogant, bearded, drunkards with a killer combat mentality, kind of 'cookie cutter' writing where the author really doesn't give much thought to developing them.  Varric was the first dwarf I saw ANYWHERE who broke the mold and went to new territory.  No beard, fancy clothing and he was diplomatic/charming instead of gruff and blunt.  I went EVERYwhere in Kirkwall with him, he was my favorite companion.  Not to mention you can avoid a few fights if you have him along, thanks to his witty tongue.

DA2 did seem a bit over the top, but I'm sure as with any story, there are elements of truth behind them.  Perhaps DA3 will bring some of this to light.  

He's the only character who can tie Hawke into the tale, though how he will do so for the warden is less evident.  Leliana (and if he's alive Anders) both have ties to both characters.  And Alistair, if he isn't king.  If he's king, he's too busy doing other things.  Too many variables to be including them.

I wish, though I like him, he wasn't going to be a companion in DA3.  I was hoping for all new people, as I've been unhappy with every 'returning favorite' Bioware has presented us.  Is that confirmed?  Or are people assuming because he's in the trailer?

As for the original post, while I liked Morrigan, I went from barely able to tolerate to Sten to outright loathing.  Since most of my playthroughs were as a female Surana, his views on women and mages were very offputting.

[Druk-Qs]

Varric was confirmed to be a Party Member.

[DragonAgeLegend]

I think Varric was neutral for me. I didn't overly like his character and didn't hate him either.