Turbo_J wrote...
How easily we forget:
In ME1 - all Geth were hostile. Legion flat out lies to Shep in ME2.
They were, but for different reasons. The Mainstream Geth, the Geth that Legion is a part of, are defensively hostile; they will attack, unprovoked, but only on their own turf. They don't actively engage against the galaxy, and they rarely if ever leave the Perseus Veil (which I think is a bit larger than is shown in ME3). Legion tells you this. All Geth in ME1 were Heretics. These are Geth that actively crusaded throughout the Galaxy with Saren and Sovereign. They're not accepted as part of the Mainstream Geth.
Tali's 'loyalty' mission in ME1 - get data on non heritic geth. We did that - or some of us did. What happened leading up to that? We find out these geth - not associated with the Geth who follow Sov. are massing in the Armstrong cluster. Regardless of their intentions, when we come upon their compounds - they attack. They are hostile and intend harm on Shep and squad.
There is no evidence - no evidence - to say that these were the Mainstream Geth. You're basing this point off of a faulty premise with evidence against it. The primary evidence being Legion, who tells you that all Geth you encounter are Heretics. If you choose not to believe him, that is your perogative, but don't claim it as fact without evidence. I'll withhold my point on the nature of the Geth and why they would attack anyway even if they weren't Heretics until you give me evidence to your point that would require me to use it.
The Quarians: Retcon or clue. Listen to Tali in ME1 on how her government works... then play her loyalty mission and her ME3 mission and - yeah - that's not how things should go. The Admirals should have been dispanded in ME2 after Tali's trial... In fact, I don't think they would have been involved at all given it would cost them their jobs... they would have left the trial up to the Ship captains/owners. Further to that, even if we let that go, in ME3 the Admiralty Board only gets involved to override matters/decisions within the flotilla - and their decisions have to be unanimous with regards to the matter at hand. If they did go to war against the Geth via unanimous vote, again - they would be dispanded. Tali would have had to vote yes - to go to war - and she would no longer be an Admiral after the vote. According to Tali, her and Koris opposed the war. It should have never happened.
An interesting way of looking at it, though I'll have to fact check this later.
Regardless of these 'problems', the geth are not trustworthy. We've never seen a friendly one... not really. Legion is 1183 all rolled into one amazing concept... who eventually proves to be less than trustworthy.
I disagree. The Geth may not seem trustworthy. I think it's mainly due to their secretive and reclusive nature as synthetics. I think Legion is doing the best he can for the Geth while also knowing that he's going to have to deal with organics who naturally going to be very irrationally spiteful and untrustworthy towards synthetics. We have seen friendly Geth. Legion is the counter-argument. He is friendly. He is Geth. And I think the problems with the Quarians as well as the broad generalization that the war could have been preventable if the Quarians actually used their brains and didn't persecute a war based on vengeance that would leave their forces heavily depleted along with the Geth when the rest of the galaxy needed them most, I might feel more sympathy for them. As it is, I feel very little for them at all. If I can't make peace, I feel the Quarians have engineered their own demise and leave them to it. It's beyond my capacity to care any longer.
Within the context of ME3 - Peace if possible - Quarians if not... and this is my personal choice. Roll Playing some Sheps; the results are - problematic.
I agree with peace, though I would always choose the Geth over the Quarians. Personal choice as well based on facts that I have at hand, I consider it the best decision to make given the information at my disposal. I role-play a pretty practical Shepard.
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