Would you prefer the Inquisitor took up an office job as a petty functionary?Mike Smith wrote...
One problem with that line of thinking is that a potential customer of DAI should have no confidence that the Inquisitor won't disappear at the end of DAI
Modifié par Taleroth, 14 août 2013 - 01:41 .
Taleroth wrote...
Would you prefer the Inquisitor took up an office job as a petty functionary?Mike Smith wrote...
One problem with that line of thinking is that a potential customer of DAI should have no confidence that the Inquisitor won't disappear at the end of DAI
Maybe he can stamp passports.
I don't recall people getting this upset about the Nereverine's disappearance.
It's an RPG, not a novel. You can decide what happened to them.Mike Smith wrote...
I'd prefer that Bioware not have made the previous heroes disappear, but if they do, they provide some explanation of what happened to them. If not, I probably won't have much interest in future DA games. The main characters disappearing is a very good example of bad writing.
Modifié par Taleroth, 14 août 2013 - 01:50 .
Sorry but it doesn't make sense that the characters disappearing is somehow more open, less restrictive, than not making them disappear. If they hadn't disappeared then, by the logic you use here, one would be free to imagine them leaving if one wishes, or staying if one wishes. But if they're written as leaving, that excludes all the possibilities one might imagine related to staying, e.g. advisor to the court, representative of the alienage, et al (still staying with epilogue stuff rather than veering into headcanon).Taleroth wrote...
It's an RPG, not a novel. You can decide what happened to them.
They disappeared from public notice, freeing them from the constraints of any imposed canon. They didn't fall off the edge of the planet.
They sailed away to foreign shores, they settled down with a child, they became a pettty functionary, they took up a command post and lead men. My Warden chased Morrigan until Witch Hunt when he ended up finding her, upon which he ran away to another dimension. My Hawke drinks... a lot.
Lol. True. Actually, I'm still trying to understand their ridiculous logic. " We had closure " . My ass. The fact that Hawk for example suddenly disappeared while he was the viscount of kirkwall, while he was with his LI prevents me precisely to imagine his life, his future, prevents me to figure out his closure.Estelindis wrote...
Sorry but it doesn't make sense that the characters disappearing is somehow more open, less restrictive, than not making them disappear. If they hadn't disappeared then, by the logic you use here, one would be free to imagine them leaving if one wishes, or staying if one wishes. But if they're written as leaving, that excludes all the possibilities one might imagine related to staying, e.g. advisor to the court, representative of the alienage, et al (still staying with epilogue stuff rather than veering into headcanon).Taleroth wrote...
It's an RPG, not a novel. You can decide what happened to them.
They disappeared from public notice, freeing them from the constraints of any imposed canon. They didn't fall off the edge of the planet.
They sailed away to foreign shores, they settled down with a child, they became a pettty functionary, they took up a command post and lead men. My Warden chased Morrigan until Witch Hunt when he ended up finding her, upon which he ran away to another dimension. My Hawke drinks... a lot.
Modifié par Sylvianus, 14 août 2013 - 02:03 .
Hahaha that is pure gold dudeJerrybnsn wrote...
The Six Path of Pain wrote...
Inquisitor: Warden Commander, obey me or face my wrath!
Warden: Not sure if your being serious or if your just an idiot? <_<
Inquisitor:Hawke, join me and help me put an end to this tragedy.
Hawke: Okay but I got to warn you, I didn't do so well with the last job I had.
Inquisitor:
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Examurai1 wrote...
thebatmanreborn wrote...
DeadlyHaven wrote...
I'm dead-set against this for so many reasons.
Well, their disappearance is an intrical part of the story, as shown at the end of DA2. It would be anticlimatic if they didn't at least pop in. A lot of fans want it. But what are the many reasons? I'm curious.
Yeah. Bioware started it, so they should finish it. I would have been find if their stories concluded in their respective games.
Modifié par DeadlyHaven, 14 août 2013 - 11:30 .
Allan Schumacher wrote...
On advantage of "they disappeared" is that it's open ended. If you'd prefer, I could suggest that we bring back the warden, and have the Warden become deranged with taint so that he/she actually ends up killing a small village and feasting on their bodies before being struck down by a bunch of dwarves.
All of the party members should be PCs.David Gaider wrote...
We'll probably have enough problems with some folks chafing at any attempt by the writers to give the Warden or Hawke an actual place in the story ("why can't I choose it? Why can't you just write different versions of every conversation to accommodate all my previous choices as well as my headcanon?") despite them both now being NPC's... putting them in the party would only open up calls for the player to roleplay them just as they roleplay the Inquisitor. Three PC's, in other words.
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Sylvius the Mad wrote...
All of the party members should be PCs.
It's riding off into the sunset. A bit of overcoming tethercat to let them continue adventures with your imagination. Though in this instance it seems primarilly used to avoid the Templar/Mage war. Cassandra went looking for every great hero she could find and, whoops, those two were indisposed.Estelindis wrote...
Sorry but it doesn't make sense that the characters disappearing is somehow more open, less restrictive, than not making them disappear. If they hadn't disappeared then, by the logic you use here, one would be free to imagine them leaving if one wishes, or staying if one wishes. But if they're written as leaving, that excludes all the possibilities one might imagine related to staying, e.g. advisor to the court, representative of the alienage, et al (still staying with epilogue stuff rather than veering into headcanon).
Modifié par Taleroth, 14 août 2013 - 04:32 .
Allan Schumacher wrote...
Is seeing Hawke and/or The Warden, ingame, out of our control, completely off the table??
I wouldn't say "completely off the table" as few things ever really are, but I would go into this with the mindset "Expect them not to show up" as there is a chance they may not show up, and if you're really hoping that they do then that circumstance will leave you disappointed.
Jerrybnsn wrote...
It's a fair assesment to say that this next game Bioware needs to fully address the disappearance of the Warden in a thoughtful matter without using cheap cameos or irrelevant codexes to explain it all away. It's not a matter of opinion that gamers have particular attachment to their own characters they create in games. Gamers are very particular. Hence the rage when Hawke appeared and your Warden was tossed aside.
mannitt wrote...
My only issue of Warden's story is done, is really just one option. Even if he romanced Morrigan and did the DR, then in Witch Hunt the only options were to wave goodbye or stab her. But the option to leave with her, in my mind instantly extends his story. The other options are open ended, but they are for the most part the end. The other is, the end? Since Morrigan's story isn't over and the possible OGB part isn't. Then how is the Warden's. It just felt like it inferred that because of that he would have a part in whatever big was going to go down in the Flemeth, Morrigan arena. I still love the DA world and am hooked on all the lore. So yes I will be disappointed if there is no follow up on the Warden, at least in that scenario. But the richness of the world has me in for the long haul. So I'll live with it.
EntropicAngel wrote...
Sylvius the Mad wrote...
All of the party members should be PCs.
I think I would find this almost too complex, in a roleplaying sense.
And I personally am against it because I prefer Bioware created companions. I enjoy their writing.
Miltialdes wrote...
DA2 finished with a cliffhanger. Hawke and the Warden disapears and it is not a coincidence....
When you have a sentence like that, you hope to resolve in the future step this mistery otherwise there is no sense to send a message like that.
I am not agree with the closure of their role. If they are alive and they have still an interaction with the world. Non sense to see Varric and not Hawke. Non sense to see Morigane and not the Warden.
As example I can take some characters from the Marvel Universe and DC....
The Antimonitor ( DC) attacks the earth 616.
The US President calls Tony Stark :
TS: Sorry, it is not in our villains list.
The US President calls Reed Richards:
RR: Not in our villains list
The US President calls Pr Xavier.
Pr Xavier: Not in our villains list.
The US President calls Peter Parker.
PP: Are you crazy, I I am a street fighter.
.... and the world is destroyed.
Everybody lives in a little world, when a big threat happens, everybody work together to close this threat. The Inquisition should be a big team to close a threat when a team is not enough to close and this example , the leader is not Reed Richards ( Cassandra), not Pr Xavier ( Varric), not Tony Stark ( Hawke) not Peter Parker ( The Wardens) but Steve Rogers.( The Inquisitor).
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Only if the blade as both a templar and a mage stuck on it, like a shish kabob. It would be all too fitting.Realmzmaster wrote...
I would like the new protagonist to go looking for the last two great heroes only to find them dead. The warden waist deep in darkspawn that came out from one of the deep tunnels to menace a town. The protagonist finds Hawke dead with both mages and templars all around Hawke with his blade or staff stuck through either a templar or mage having defended a town from their war. I would call that closure.
Taleroth wrote...
It's riding off into the sunset. A bit of overcoming tethercat to let them continue adventures with your imagination. Though in this instance it seems primarilly used to avoid the Templar/Mage war. Cassandra went looking for every great hero she could find and, whoops, those two were indisposed.
Saying they disappeared means only that Cassandra doesn't know where they were. Not that they ran away into the wilds. They took up new names, they asked people not to talk to "those Seeker jerks," or grew a moustache. Or maybe the people who knew simply lied to her.
Paul Atreides disappeared. Disappearing does not mean you left.
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