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Let Us Recruit Grey Warden Commander + Hawke In DA3


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#26
Taleroth

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I liked it in Suikoden, but it's unwieldy for DA this game.

They're not even using the same engine. Getting the face to import would be trouble enough. Not disrespecting our choices in the personality they give him would be virtually impossible.

Modifié par Taleroth, 12 août 2013 - 03:41 .


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Killdren88

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Yeah..Let the warden do his own thing.

But for the record..I could see some pretty funny banter between the two.

Hawke- So...You and Isabella...

WC- Hm? Oh..she told you about that?

Hawke- Yes. She boasted about you when I first met her..

WC- Boasted did she? Did she mention Alistair as well?

Hawke- The sodding king of Fereldan to?!

WC- Ah..I take it she didn't mention that part?...Zevran can tell you about it if you wish. He has a far better memory than I.

Hawke- *Sighs* Rather not hear about it thanks...

WC- You sure? I can contact him pretty easily.

Modifié par Killdren88, 12 août 2013 - 05:02 .


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No, I wouldn't want that. For one, it would be really difficult to import their looks into DA:I. The only way around that I can see would be to allow us to "create" them again. More importantly, imo, is their personality. We decided how they are, how they react in the dialogues. As companions that wouldn't be possible and would probably kill their characters for a lot of players. Also, the Warden could be dead when DA:I takes place. Lastly, who would be the VA for the Warden?

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DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

Volourn wrote...

"The Grey Warden Commander would automatically become leader"

No.

" and then the Inquisitor and Warden will team up to beat up Hawke for being so incompetent all through out DA2. "

Hawke coud arguably more competent than either depending how you role-played your PC in DA1 and D2.


Commander +Champion + Inquistor = GRAND EPIC FUN!


Let's see now.

Grey Warden = Ended a blight, put a king on the seat of Orzammar, ended the civil war of Fereldan, fixed the circle by either killing all mages or saving them and saved Arl Eamon.

Hawke= Lost his/her brother/sister to the deep roads or circle/templar, couldn't stop Anders in any way possible depsite knowing him for 6 years, failed to save his/her mother, couldn't even handle Sister Petrice without starting a Qunari war and didn't do anything to stop the mages or templar from going to war.

You don't need to roleplay for those to happen.


Hawke = brother becom grey warden, failed to save his/her mother, Kik qunary out of  kirkwall, Released most badass darkspawn So we would have something cool to fight in DA3, beat wath darkspawn, helped Anders blow chantry and walked out like a boss.

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Secretlyapotato

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No but it would be cool to be in a temporary party with them.

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Zeldrik1389

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The thing is, both Warden and Hawke were player characters that heavily customized by players, both look and personalities. So it's really difficult to make them right if they appear in DA:I. Not only they have to worry about face import, voice over, they also have to worry about their personalities (again, people play games differently. Some play a righteous hero, some play a total jack@ss. It will be very difficult for them, if not impossible, to be able to cover every possibilities), their choices in previous games and how those affect this game. They will also face a huge risk of people complaining "no this is not my Warden / Hawke. You got it all wrong." which I suspect would happen anyway. Too much work for too little gain, imo.

So nope, I don't think they would ever do this. I don't even want them to. Their time and resources are better used on others things like gameplay, stories, or new characters. I'm fine if they do something like letting other characters mention them in conversations.

Modifié par Zeldrik1389, 12 août 2013 - 05:57 .


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I don't like this at all either. I'm happy with the stories I created around my Warden and Hawke. Their stories are done for me. I'm satisfied with the epilogues. I don't need to see them again. This is another difference between ME and DA. ME is Shephard's story. You needed him/her in all of the stories to follow his/her path to the end. DA is Thedas' story. By having each game set in a new setting with a new protagonist, it gives you a more well developed view of what's happening in Thedas around these crises. I love that about the DA games and would be very sad to see that change.

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Battlebloodmage

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It's impossible and pointless. Besides, the companions have already been decided long ago.

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Jerrybnsn

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Volourn wrote...


"Also: face imports don`t work from one game engine and over to a different engine. "


I always read suggestions to just redo your Wardens customization.  I don't see a problem with that.  It's not like the Dragon Age series had the luxury that the Mass Effect series did in that they used the same game engine for their past three games.

And as far as having your Warden or Hawke be cameos or companions.  No. Cameos are cheap teases, and making them companions would mean Bioware would be taking over their personalities that are suppose to be yours.  They have to be playable characters or it won't work.

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As much as I like the idea.............never going to happen.

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Qyla

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No, never EVER use old PC as companions An automatic system will never be able to capture the personalities we imagined, and they are way too important to be companion of someone.

Just no. No nonoononononononononnonononono

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ghost_ronin

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How about

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Modifié par ghost_ronin, 12 août 2013 - 09:24 .


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Little Princess Peach

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I rather team up with my warden for a short Quest rather than a long term thing

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No, it would force BW folks to streamline Warden's and Hawke's personality, which would upset may, many fans (myself included).

Cameo/role - yes, party member - no.

Modifié par Mr Cloud, 12 août 2013 - 11:18 .


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TsaiMeLemoni

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No thank you. I don't really even want to see them in a cameo capacity. They can (and should, probably) be mentioned, but I am fine with never seeing them.

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Gonna nope with everyone else. At least for the start of the game. An 11th hour last-minute team up as they face whatever godlike demons are pouring through the tear or armies marching to their door... That would be interesting. Just let me customise the guys beforehand to my satisfaction.

Edit: And what I specifically mean by that is that they each go off to fulfill their own roles in the final battles, rather than sticking together as a unit. That would be poor tactics anyhow. And also, I'd want to play each of them doing their thing.

Modifié par BangBoom, 12 août 2013 - 11:29 .


#42
TsaiMeLemoni

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BangBoom wrote...

Gonna nope with everyone else. At least for the start of the game. An 11th hour last-minute team up as they face whatever godlike demons are pouring through the tear or armies marching to their door... That would be interesting. Just let me customise the guys beforehand to my satisfaction.


imo, this is why we won't get actual cameos or visual involvement from our past protagonists; not to say horrible things about Bioware, but I can't see anyway that they'll be able to import and improve the faces of our past heroes, and I can't imagine a scenario where we'd get to customize their appearance that wouldn't either spoil their involvement or be an incongrous menu experience late in the game which may interrupt immersion. And if all we'd get is a cameo, I think it would just be a lot of wasted time for a small payoff.

Better  to just mention them in dialogue and avoid all sorts of nasty headaches, imo.

Modifié par TsaiMeLemoni, 12 août 2013 - 11:29 .


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TsaiMeLemoni wrote...

BangBoom wrote...

Gonna nope with everyone else. At least for the start of the game. An 11th hour last-minute team up as they face whatever godlike demons are pouring through the tear or armies marching to their door... That would be interesting. Just let me customise the guys beforehand to my satisfaction.


imo, this is why we won't get actual cameos or visual involvement from our past protagonists; not to say horrible things about Bioware, but I can't see anyway that they'll be able to import and improve the faces of our past heroes, and I can't imagine a scenario where we'd get to customize their appearance that wouldn't either spoil their involvement or be an incongrous menu experience late in the game which may interrupt immersion. And if all we'd get is a cameo, I think it would just be a lot of wasted time for a small payoff.

Better  to just mention them in dialogue and avoid all sorts of nasty headaches, imo.


I personally would be satisfied with doing it at the start. The chances of either showing themselves to some degree seem highly probable. It wouldn't spoil anything for me, I'd merely be more vigilant for them. Also, depending on why they disappeared I can imagine some kind of in-story reconstruction. Like if you were to play ME2 as the Illusive Man, how that resurrection scene could go.

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Secretlyapotato wrote...

No but it would be cool to be in a temporary party with them.


and

Tharja wrote...

I rather team up with my warden for a short Quest rather than a long term thing


These. And a CC to recreate the Warden and/or Hawke. =)

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maybe we get "a" warden commander, but not "the" warden commander. Not sure that I would want to even encounter "the" warden commander, which most likely (and sadly) won't be "my" warden commander.

With Hawke it might be different, but at the moment I'm perfectly happy with the "ride into the sunset" scenario (or similar) for the warden.

Set aside from my own issues, the risk on bringing the warden back (specifically) is that we might have some "idolized" view of him/her (similar to these old game that were soooo much better) which, at best, will be hard to live up to.

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This is such a bad idea.

I'd rather them be dead than have a horrid cameo or part.

Think of Revan in TOR.

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DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

The Grey Warden Commander would automatically become leader and then the Inquisitor and Warden will team up to beat up Hawke for being so incompetent all through out DA2.



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Remember how Lucas shoehorned in appearances for just about every character in the Star Wars prequels, thereby creating lots of plotholes? You may be learning the wrong lesson from that.

There is nothing to gain by doing this, and everything to lose.

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Mike said that maybe we will see/hear about Hawke so I don't mind it but don't want to see Warden before DA4.

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tfcreative wrote...

Remember how Lucas shoehorned in appearances for just about every character in the Star Wars prequels, thereby creating lots of plotholes? You may be learning the wrong lesson from that.

There is nothing to gain by doing this, and everything to lose.


Heck look at what happened with all the returning characters in Mass Effect 3, people didn't like how a secondary character was treated.  Imagine what would happen if it was a protagionist.