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[NRieh]

So I just wonder - why these 2 characters specifically? What's so special about them that it needs to be them, and not someone else?

My speculation...but...Flemmeth?

[KainD]

Nrieh wrote...

So I just wonder - why these 2 characters specifically? What's so special about them that it needs to be them, and not someone else?

My speculation...but...Flemmeth?

I'm sure Flemeth met a whole bunch of other people? 

[mannitt]

My hope is that if they are not in DA:I, they in fact say they aren't, at some point. If they are, whether a small role or not, then the hints and lack of any response is ok. Because then whenever that meeting happens it would be somewhat of a nice surprise. I just would be a little disappointed if they weren't in it and yet they kept hinting that it was possible.
So simply if they aren't in it I think it'd be better to say it. If they are then go ahead and tease to your hearts content.

[Wulfram]

I don't see why anyone would expect headcanon to be respected when actual canon about the Warden is so casually tossed aside after every game.

[Iron Fist]

The Warden has no definable identity, but accomplished something very important. This character, who has a death sentence, is essentially a myth or legend in the minds of the people who never met him or her.

Hawke has a name, a family, and a home. However, he or she didn't really do anything important (ultimately). This character is just another bit player in the history of ONE city.

Neither one is really important anymore, so including them in DAI is pandering plain and simple. They don't fit into the story, in my opinion.

References are preferable.

Modifié par MevenSelas, 12 août 2013 - 06:01 .

[Toasted Llama]

Bah I don't get it why people are so picky about the way their Warden/Hawke may or may not be displayed.

In the game you have a limited amount of answers that you can give that have all been written by Bioware, there have always been certain "rules" and requirements you had to follow (you couldn't deny being a Warden and you couldn't save your dad and one of your siblings as Hawke) + you can always imagen the canon to be different if you do not like them in the end.

So I personally really want to see Bioware have a go at our Wardens and Hawkes, because, let's face it, the stories they have written are awesome (that's why most people love the games, I believe lol) and some events that happened could not have been avoided and your Warden/Hawke was forced to do. The Inquisition may very well be one of those "forced" moments when they HAVE to help.

[darthnick427]

My warden wouldn't take orders from anyone who hadn't proven themselves. At most I'd like my warden to be a reoccurring character that shows up at several times. He can actively support the Inquisition but not be an underling to it.

Though if bioware wanted to give me serious nostalgia, all I'd want to see is the surviving DA:O team and the warden reunite and kick some ass one last time.

As for Hawke, I don't really care what is done with them. They can show up in a cameo role, and help out a bit,, but nah no companion for Hawke. I never liked Hawke enough for that.

Modifié par darthnick427, 12 août 2013 - 06:07 .

[Taleroth]

Toasted Llama wrote...

some events that happened could not have been avoided and your Warden/Hawke was forced to do. The Inquisition may very well be one of those "forced" moments when they HAVE to help.

Hawke is incapable of helping. Everywhere he goes abominations pop up from the ground and even his allies go insane.

[Nightwing99]

 about the Appearance of the  Warden Commander + Hawke BioWare can learn a thing or two from the Saints Row guys  every  character you invent saved on  their site
I just download Saints Row 4 character creator and i was able to download my Saints Row 3character 

[Synthetic Moose]

David Gaider wrote...

Volourn wrote...
 This would be an awesome way to tie in the two previous games if we recruit our two previous PCs into our part 3 party. Imagine the stories and legends that can be made!

We'll probably have enough problems with some folks chafing at any attempt by the writers to give the Warden or Hawke an actual place in the story ("why can't I choose it? Why can't you just write different versions of every conversation to accommodate all my previous choices as well as my headcanon?") despite them both now being NPC's... putting them in the party would only open up calls for the player to roleplay them just as they roleplay the Inquisitor. Three PC's, in other words.

So, no. HELL no. Despite how awesome that might seem in your head, it would not be that awesome in practice.

I'll understand if you can't or don't want to say anything yet, but will the Warden and Hawke appear in Inquisition?

[Little Princess Peach]

David Gaider wrote...

ManchesterUnitedFan1 wrote...
Or...are you saying that the epilogue counts as headcanon?

Some people also headcanon the epilogues. If Hawke romanced Isabela in DA2, it's mentioned that they remained together afterwards... but doing what? For how long? Some people claim that means they went sailing off on Isabela's new ship, and why would Hawke ever leave her side for even a single minute? We contradict that by saying Hawke disappeared and suddenly it's a clash with headcanon-- despite "Hawke remains with Isabela forever" not being a choice we offered.

At any rate, I'm not going to get into a big discussion about it. We realize some people are very precious about their PC's, and we're not apt to go out of our way to have them do things that violate headcanon... but they obviously did something, and that involves a plot that may not be what someone had in mind. Just be aware.

I have  question, about the warden's and Hawke's plot if there is one, If we get to be part of the plot that is the dissapperance of our old PC's, would we be allowed to have a new CC for them?, or would they just be designed by Default?, which brings me to my last question, Would our choices be inprinted in the default looking npc's which where once our pc's.

[Jerrybnsn]

MevenSelas wrote...

Neither one is really important anymore, so including them in DAI is pandering plain and simple. They don't fit into the story, in my opinion.

References are preferable.

With the world spinning into chaos, the world needs a hero.

Hawke sit down.

[mannitt]

Jerrybnsn wrote...

MevenSelas wrote...

Neither one is really important anymore, so including them in DAI is pandering plain and simple. They don't fit into the story, in my opinion.

References are preferable.

With the world spinning into chaos, the world needs a hero.

Hawke sit down.

I liked Hawke. Mostly sarcastic jackass Hawke, but this made me burst out laughing. 

[Iron Fist]

mannitt wrote...

Jerrybnsn wrote...

MevenSelas wrote...

Neither one is really important anymore, so including them in DAI is pandering plain and simple. They don't fit into the story, in my opinion.

References are preferable.

With the world spinning into chaos, the world needs a hero.

Hawke sit down.

I liked Hawke. Mostly sarcastic jackass Hawke, but this made me burst out laughing. 

You don't like Hawke. You like a set of the character's dialogue and the fact that it was voiced. You like one of the character's potential personalities.

Narratively, Hawke is a dead end. I think any appearance in a future game is pointless.

[Synthetic Moose]

MevenSelas wrote...

mannitt wrote...

Jerrybnsn wrote...

MevenSelas wrote...

Neither one is really important anymore, so including them in DAI is pandering plain and simple. They don't fit into the story, in my opinion.

References are preferable.

With the world spinning into chaos, the world needs a hero.

Hawke sit down.

I liked Hawke. Mostly sarcastic jackass Hawke, but this made me burst out laughing. 

You don't like Hawke. You like a set of the character's dialogue and the fact that it was voiced. You like one of the character's potential personalities.

Narratively, Hawke is a dead end. I think any appearance in a future game is pointless.

I liked Hawke too. I don't understand why people dislike Hawke. Why do they?

[Taleroth]

Synthetic Moose wrote...

I liked Hawke too. I don't understand why people dislike Hawke. Why do they?

He's a loser.

He demonstrates minimal personal ambition, instead acquiesing to those around him, and no assertiveness. And he largely fails to be effectual in those assigned tasks.

Modifié par Taleroth, 12 août 2013 - 07:07 .

[Ziggeh]

David Gaider wrote...
we're not apt to go out of our way to have them do things that violate headcanon

You're a better man than I am, Gunga Din.

[Jerrybnsn]

Synthetic Moose wrote...

I liked Hawke too. I don't understand why people dislike Hawke. Why do they?

Hawke had the unfortune to be in DA2.  Plus some Dragon Age fans felt he/she upsurped their Warden. 

[Iron Fist]

Synthetic Moose wrote...

I liked Hawke too. I don't understand why people dislike Hawke. Why do they?

Let's ignore the fact that people hate the character. Let me ask YOU something. What possible role could Hawke play in the next game? The character is a Kirkwallian aristocrat with friends who inexplicably screwed *stuff* up.

We have moved on to bigger and better things in Orlais and Ferelden. Even a cameo appearance by Hawke is odd to me.

Modifié par MevenSelas, 12 août 2013 - 07:12 .

[Toasted Llama]

Taleroth wrote...

Toasted Llama wrote...

some events that happened could not have been avoided and your Warden/Hawke was forced to do. The Inquisition may very well be one of those "forced" moments when they HAVE to help.

Hawke is incapable of helping. Everywhere he goes abominations pop up from the ground and even his allies go insane.

Uhh... I don't recall reading that anywhere ;P

Though I don't like Hawke so I'll just happily believe you and imagen myself Hawke running away from abominations followed by emo Anders

[Sylvianus]

Synthetic Moose wrote...

MevenSelas wrote...

mannitt wrote...

Jerrybnsn wrote...

MevenSelas wrote...

Neither one is really important anymore, so including them in DAI is pandering plain and simple. They don't fit into the story, in my opinion.

References are preferable.

With the world spinning into chaos, the world needs a hero.

Hawke sit down.

I liked Hawke. Mostly sarcastic jackass Hawke, but this made me burst out laughing. 

You don't like Hawke. You like a set of the character's dialogue and the fact that it was voiced. You like one of the character's potential personalities.

Narratively, Hawke is a dead end. I think any appearance in a future game is pointless.

I liked Hawke too. I don't understand why people dislike Hawke. Why do they?

It's a long story to tell around a campfire. There are many things to tell about him / her.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 12 août 2013 - 07:16 .

[wetnasty]

lmao, what an awful idea.

[Taleroth]

Toasted Llama wrote...

Taleroth wrote...

Toasted Llama wrote...

some events that happened could not have been avoided and your Warden/Hawke was forced to do. The Inquisition may very well be one of those "forced" moments when they HAVE to help.

Hawke is incapable of helping. Everywhere he goes abominations pop up from the ground and even his allies go insane.

Uhh... I don't recall reading that anywhere ;P

Though I don't like Hawke so I'll just happily believe you and imagen myself Hawke running away from abominations followed by emo Anders

Just think about it. Everyone in Dragon Age 2 turned insane. But they always waited until Hawke was in the room before doing it.

There was a perfectly sane and reasonable group of people in Kirkwall. It was a coalition of Mages and Templars working against Meredith. But regardless of if you're for or against Meredith, they all go completely gonzo and decide you're the enemy when they see you.

I mean, this is a group that was half madeup of Templars. The greatest abomination experts on the planet. And apparently the other half was made up almost entirely of abominations. We can assume that abominations are really good at hiding, or maybe Hawke's presence turned this group of otherwise sane people completely bat****.

Modifié par Taleroth, 12 août 2013 - 07:17 .