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sandalisthemaker wrote...

We know little of the Inquisition as an order, but so long as it has its own set of rules, then being a member of the Inquisition is incompatible with being a Qunari. The Qun demands absolute obedience to its teachings, and its teachings alone.

A Qunari Inquisitor would be considered a living insult to the Qun. Your fellow Qunari would send their sleeper agents to assassinate you. If you manage to evade them and decide to go back to Par Vollen, they would slaughter you on sight.


I'd love to see that play out as a side quest. Who knows, maybe the other Qunari in your party, if there is one this time, will vouch for you. Unless they too are an outcast.

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ziloe wrote...

sandalisthemaker wrote...

We know little of the Inquisition as an order, but so long as it has its own set of rules, then being a member of the Inquisition is incompatible with being a Qunari. The Qun demands absolute obedience to its teachings, and its teachings alone.

A Qunari Inquisitor would be considered a living insult to the Qun. Your fellow Qunari would send their sleeper agents to assassinate you. If you manage to evade them and decide to go back to Par Vollen, they would slaughter you on sight.


I'd love to see that play out as a side quest. Who knows, maybe the other Qunari in your party, if there is one this time, will vouch for you. Unless they too are an outcast.


I'm willing to bet that if we have this Iron Bull guy as a companion, then he will be Tal-Vashoth. The Qunari would want his head as well.

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elfdwarf wrote...

saarebas aren't mute or have you forgotten da2.
i think we will be tal-vashoth, and not qunari if that was one of the race choices.



I haven't forgotten DA2.

:)

"Ketojan" was mute until released by the Arvaarad's magic wand thingy.

(I have no idea how you'd create a story that reacted to both human inquisitor and mute saarebas, but I really think it would be amazing. Although, I suspect your progression through it would have to be so different it would be two stories.)

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sandalisthemaker wrote...

ziloe wrote...

sandalisthemaker wrote...

We know little of the Inquisition as an order, but so long as it has its own set of rules, then being a member of the Inquisition is incompatible with being a Qunari. The Qun demands absolute obedience to its teachings, and its teachings alone.

A Qunari Inquisitor would be considered a living insult to the Qun. Your fellow Qunari would send their sleeper agents to assassinate you. If you manage to evade them and decide to go back to Par Vollen, they would slaughter you on sight.


I'd love to see that play out as a side quest. Who knows, maybe the other Qunari in your party, if there is one this time, will vouch for you. Unless they too are an outcast.


I'm willing to bet that if we have this Iron Bull guy as a companion, then he will be Tal-Vashoth. The Qunari would want his head as well.


And you don't think that would make for a great side quest? It would sure as hell show the reactivity of the world around you, that's for sure.

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Wait I thought Qunari is someone who follows the teaching and laws of the Qun? You can play any race and be Qunari.
Kossith is a race tho I would like to maybe play as.

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 double posted

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AmRMa wrote...

A Kossith or Qunari protagonist wouldn't make any sense to me because I think that nobody would trust them and nobody would follow them. They are enemies of Thedas (DA2 attacked Kirkwall) only interested in spreading their religion and taking over Thedas. Good luck getting any mages to join them considering they control their mages even worse than the circles did. Also the Templars, Dalish tribes, and Chantry wouldn't help because of their strict beliefs and leaders of countries would worry about a takeover. Why would people follow them or join them? How would the Inquisition gain power or allies?



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The fact that qunari are

- "untrustworthy"
- "enemies of Thedas"
- "bad"
- "illogical"

...makes the idea of playing one all the more intriguing.

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AmRMa wrote...

AmRMa wrote...

A Kossith or Qunari protagonist wouldn't make any sense to me because I think that nobody would trust them and nobody would follow them. They are enemies of Thedas (DA2 attacked Kirkwall) only interested in spreading their religion and taking over Thedas. Good luck getting any mages to join them considering they control their mages even worse than the circles did. Also the Templars, Dalish tribes, and Chantry wouldn't help because of their strict beliefs and leaders of countries would worry about a takeover. Why would people follow them or join them? How would the Inquisition gain power or allies?


No one said it would be a perfect playthrough. Of course you might run into a few snags with who helps you and who doesn't, but that will be like any other playthrough where one or more races doesn't like or trust you.

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AmRMa wrote...

AmRMa wrote...

A Kossith or Qunari protagonist wouldn't make any sense to me because I think that nobody would trust them and nobody would follow them. They are enemies of Thedas (DA2 attacked Kirkwall) only interested in spreading their religion and taking over Thedas. Good luck getting any mages to join them considering they control their mages even worse than the circles did. Also the Templars, Dalish tribes, and Chantry wouldn't help because of their strict beliefs and leaders of countries would worry about a takeover. Why would people follow them or join them? How would the Inquisition gain power or allies?

The GI article made mention of a possible fourth race option, and given the demand here I can't see it being anything but kossith. They have plans, so I imagine it's going to come down to whether or not they have time.

You could probably treat a Tal-vashoth kossith the same as an elf in Origins, honestly. People were willing to follow the Elf Warden because they knew they didn't have any other choice: follow them, or die to the Darkspawn. Same could be done with a kossith Inquisitor in the face of the Fade crashing into Thedas. There would be bigots denouncing them for their race, but that's what persuasion or a sword is for.

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Pyce wrote...

Wait I thought Qunari is someone who follows the teaching and laws of the Qun? You can play any race and be Qunari.
Kossith is a race tho I would like to maybe play as.


Is it? I could change the title, but I don't know if everyone knows this. If this is the case, it's news to me too.

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Daralii wrote...

AmRMa wrote...

AmRMa wrote...

A Kossith or Qunari protagonist wouldn't make any sense to me because I think that nobody would trust them and nobody would follow them. They are enemies of Thedas (DA2 attacked Kirkwall) only interested in spreading their religion and taking over Thedas. Good luck getting any mages to join them considering they control their mages even worse than the circles did. Also the Templars, Dalish tribes, and Chantry wouldn't help because of their strict beliefs and leaders of countries would worry about a takeover. Why would people follow them or join them? How would the Inquisition gain power or allies?

The GI article made mention of a possible fourth race option, and given the demand here I can't see it being anything but kossith. They have plans, so I imagine it's going to come down to whether or not they have time.

You could probably treat a Tal-vashoth kossith the same as an elf in Origins, honestly. People were willing to follow the Elf Warden because they knew they didn't have any other choice: follow them, or die to the Darkspawn. Same could be done with a kossith Inquisitor in the face of the Fade crashing into Thedas. There would be bigots denouncing them for their race, but that's what persuasion or a sword is for.


When/where did they mention another race?

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ziloe wrote...

Daralii wrote...

AmRMa wrote...

AmRMa wrote...

A Kossith or Qunari protagonist wouldn't make any sense to me because I think that nobody would trust them and nobody would follow them. They are enemies of Thedas (DA2 attacked Kirkwall) only interested in spreading their religion and taking over Thedas. Good luck getting any mages to join them considering they control their mages even worse than the circles did. Also the Templars, Dalish tribes, and Chantry wouldn't help because of their strict beliefs and leaders of countries would worry about a takeover. Why would people follow them or join them? How would the Inquisition gain power or allies?

The GI article made mention of a possible fourth race option, and given the demand here I can't see it being anything but kossith. They have plans, so I imagine it's going to come down to whether or not they have time.

You could probably treat a Tal-vashoth kossith the same as an elf in Origins, honestly. People were willing to follow the Elf Warden because they knew they didn't have any other choice: follow them, or die to the Darkspawn. Same could be done with a kossith Inquisitor in the face of the Fade crashing into Thedas. There would be bigots denouncing them for their race, but that's what persuasion or a sword is for.


When/where did they mention another race?

At least 3 races to choose from; when asked about Qunari, Mike Laidlaw
says “Do we go to four? I don’t know. Definitely these are the safe
bet”.



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ziloe wrote...

Pyce wrote...

Wait I thought Qunari is someone who follows the teaching and laws of the Qun? You can play any race and be Qunari.
Kossith is a race tho I would like to maybe play as.


Is it? I could change the title, but I don't know if everyone knows this. If this is the case, it's news to me too.

Kossith Is the Race most call Qunari. Some guy made up some tenets and laws to live by and it was called the Qun. Those that live by the Qun are Qunari.
Qunari live by some kinda value and honor system. They also want to convert their world to all follow the Qun. Hence war. Kossith were the first to be comsumned by the Qunari.
Kossith that abandon the Qun are called Tal- Vashoth. What a human, elf ,drawf that abandon the Qun it yet to be known.

Edit: Oh and some Kossith are horny and some aren't.

Modifié par Pyce, 12 août 2013 - 04:49 .


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Trista Hawke wrote...

The fact that qunari are

- "untrustworthy"
- "enemies of Thedas"
- "bad"
- "illogical"

...makes the idea of playing one all the more intriguing.

Um when was nay of that said? Because none of that is true :mellow:

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Mr.House wrote...

Trista Hawke wrote...

The fact that qunari are

- "untrustworthy"
- "enemies of Thedas"
- "bad"
- "illogical"

...makes the idea of playing one all the more intriguing.

Um when was nay of that said? Because none of that is true :mellow:


This. When the qunari gives their word, he keeps it. They never break a promise, most peopel just assume promises were made that were never made, such as the dwarf who thought killing tal-vashoth would get him the black powder recipe. 

They're as much enemies of thedas as tevinter is an enemy of thedas, or orlais, or fereldan, or any other kingdom who would make a power grab to gain more influence and territory. The qunari invasion was actually less bloody than a normal army sacking a city.

Bad is subjective, something only determined by what side you are on. On a battlefield for instance, a precisely aimed bombshell, sniper shot, or manuver is considered good, or bad, depending on which side landed the strike. Calling them bad doesn't really prove anything except that you yourself are on their opposing side.

Qunari are frankly the most logical people on all of thedas. They belive in the greater good, and the collective good of the qunari people over personal freedom and choice. Theirs is the most efficient, sanitary, and probably best educated people on the continent. Don't forget that most of thedas is currently in a dark age like period where "a wizard did it" is a valid excuse in a court of law and woman aren't allowed to fight because men have a penis and woman have a vagina.

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I generally only play humans in games, but roleplaying a Qunari would be fun. For me it would be a lot more fun without a pre-scripted/voiced character, though I guess that goes for any of the non-human races, just in terms of allowing more resources to write more unique, race specifc dialogues.

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AmRMa wrote...

AmRMa wrote...

A Kossith or Qunari protagonist wouldn't make any sense to me because I think that nobody would trust them and nobody would follow them. They are enemies of Thedas (DA2 attacked Kirkwall) only interested in spreading their religion and taking over Thedas. Good luck getting any mages to join them considering they control their mages even worse than the circles did. Also the Templars, Dalish tribes, and Chantry wouldn't help because of their strict beliefs and leaders of countries would worry about a takeover. Why would people follow them or join them? How would the Inquisition gain power or allies?



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The Flying Grey Warden wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Trista Hawke wrote...

The fact that qunari are

- "untrustworthy"
- "enemies of Thedas"
- "bad"
- "illogical"

...makes the idea of playing one all the more intriguing.

Um when was nay of that said? Because none of that is true :mellow:


This. When the qunari gives their word, he keeps it. They never break a promise, most peopel just assume promises were made that were never made, such as the dwarf who thought killing tal-vashoth would get him the black powder recipe. 

They're as much enemies of thedas as tevinter is an enemy of thedas, or orlais, or fereldan, or any other kingdom who would make a power grab to gain more influence and territory. The qunari invasion was actually less bloody than a normal army sacking a city.

Bad is subjective, something only determined by what side you are on. On a battlefield for instance, a precisely aimed bombshell, sniper shot, or manuver is considered good, or bad, depending on which side landed the strike. Calling them bad doesn't really prove anything except that you yourself are on their opposing side.

Qunari are frankly the most logical people on all of thedas. They belive in the greater good, and the collective good of the qunari people over personal freedom and choice. Theirs is the most efficient, sanitary, and probably best educated people on the continent. Don't forget that most of thedas is currently in a dark age like period where "a wizard did it" is a valid excuse in a court of law and woman aren't allowed to fight because men have a penis and woman have a vagina.



They also made a promise to break their peace treaty with Thedas as they only signed a piece of paper because Thedas believed in it. Thats quite untrustworthy.

Thedas is not in a "dark age" as you think. And you do realize Thedas is actually the one who allows women to fight and the Qunari are the ones who are unable to reconcile the idea of a woman being a fighter without wanting to be a man somehow? You wish to be a woman who fights? Do you also wish to live on the moon as well?

Modifié par Vit246, 12 août 2013 - 06:20 .


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I doubt that if we'll get to play as a Qunari ( the oxmen race), we'll play as a member of the Qun. It'd be more likely to play as a Vashoth.

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I doubt there will be playable Qunari.

If I'm wrong however, the playable Qunari would be all but guaranteed to be Tal'Vashoth. A fanatic follower of the Qun wouldn't make much sense as an Inquisitor.

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A Tal'Vashoth would still have a very different dialogue and interaction with everyone around him, so I don't know that it would be any more feasible than a Qunari PC.

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A Qunari Inquisitor would be awesome. I actually like the Qunari (or Kossith as it may be). Except for the taking people and converting them. That's a big no no. The Qunari are kinda lost though, you are either born bound to the Qun, living life bound and controlled by a governmental-religious structure, or you become Tal-Vashoth which means you become purposeless and a murderer. I don't think Kossith know what the phrase "Having a dream" even means. ;)

I think having a Qunari companion would rock. Something DA2 didn't have. Bringing it back would be awesome! No NPC's! :wizard:

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Jedi Master of Orion wrote...

A Tal'Vashoth would still have a very different dialogue and interaction with everyone around him, so I don't know that it would be any more feasible than a Qunari PC.


Eeyup.

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tal-vashoth aren't all murderers if you play mark of the assassin dlc there are qunari who left qun are innocent