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[Jedi Master of Orion]

Tal'vashoth could leave the Qun for any number of reasons but are mostly just violent anarchists. That's because they are usually antaam who reject the rule of the Qun but don't know how to do anything but kill people. So they become mercenaries or raiders. There are exceptions of course, but most of them we run into are like that. Just leaving the Qun doesn't make one Tal'vashoth, people who leave the Qun and become violent are Tal'vashoth.

Modifié par Jedi Master of Orion, 12 août 2013 - 07:39 .

[ziloe]

Pyce wrote...

ziloe wrote...

Pyce wrote...

Wait I thought Qunari is someone who follows the teaching and laws of the Qun? You can play any race and be Qunari.
Kossith is a race tho I would like to maybe play as.

Is it? I could change the title, but I don't know if everyone knows this. If this is the case, it's news to me too.

Kossith Is the Race most call Qunari. Some guy made up some tenets and laws to live by and it was called the Qun. Those that live by the Qun are Qunari.
Qunari live by some kinda value and honor system. They also want to convert their world to all follow the Qun. Hence war. Kossith were the first to be comsumned by the Qunari.
Kossith that abandon the Qun are called Tal- Vashoth. What a human, elf ,drawf that abandon the Qun it yet to be known.

Edit: Oh and some Kossith are horny and some aren't.

According to the Wiki, in referring to "Kossith":

"The term is an antiquated technical name that is only used by tamassrans. A few members of the Qunari priesthood may recognize the word, but to everyone in Thedas, the horned race is just "Qunari" or "Tal-Vashoth," respectively."

Modifié par ziloe, 12 août 2013 - 09:55 .

[BouncyFrag]

Good idea. As it is a good idea, my inner pessimist says this will only ensure that it won't happen at all. Can't be having nice things now can we? I wouldn't object to Bioware removing the elves and putting the Qunari in its place as a playable race.

[cactusberry]

I would leap at the chance to play Kossith.

Pleasepleaseplease.

[ziloe]

BouncyFrag wrote...

Good idea. As it is a good idea, my inner pessimist says this will only ensure that it won't happen at all. Can't be having nice things now can we? I wouldn't object to Bioware removing the elves and putting the Qunari in its place as a playable race.

Ha, I think a few might object to losing elves. Hell, just for my new playthrough of DA2, I modded my game so I could play an elf. Hm, I wonder if there's a mod for a Qunari too...

[DarthLaxian]

Mercedes-Benz wrote...

I only play as a Human, since that is what I am.

that is exactly why i normally do not play humans (i only play them in dragon age as they are the dominant species in the world of thedas and have more freedome etc. then dwarfs and the elven...it is kind of sad though, as i am not a racist and i would love for the elven people to be free...as for dwarfs: they can't be mages, so they are normally out for me)

as for qunari? - i dislike them and i will not play those thedan-communist-borg with an idiology i would never follow in RL

i would love to go after those bastards directly (give me the templars, the mages, a few dwarfs and golems and of course the army (and mages) of Tevinter and i will have fun crushing them (no, not in the name of the chantry, i dislike that, too))

as for playing a character that does not have anything to say (straight to the point, no small talk etc.) - no way, i am a pleasant person in RL (at least normally - if one does not annoy me or try to make me angry) and i like small talk (and it is way easier to work a silver tongue (i am quite good with words in RL, too) if you are nice to the people you talk to - it is harder to convince someone of your point if you made them angry before, is it not?) and i like talking (and you learn more this way, too - about the person you talk to and about the world (of Thedas) and its lore)

greetings LAX

[ziloe]

DarthLaxian wrote...

Mercedes-Benz wrote...

I only play as a Human, since that is what I am.

that is exactly why i normally do not play humans (i only play them in dragon age as they are the dominant species in the world of thedas and have more freedome etc. then dwarfs and the elven...it is kind of sad though, as i am not a racist and i would love for the elven people to be free...as for dwarfs: they can't be mages, so they are normally out for me)

as for qunari? - i dislike them and i will not play those thedan-communist-borg with an idiology i would never follow in RL

i would love to go after those bastards directly (give me the templars, the mages, a few dwarfs and golems and of course the army (and mages) of Tevinter and i will have fun crushing them (no, not in the name of the chantry, i dislike that, too))

as for playing a character that does not have anything to say (straight to the point, no small talk etc.) - no way, i am a pleasant person in RL (at least normally - if one does not annoy me or try to make me angry) and i like small talk (and it is way easier to work a silver tongue (i am quite good with words in RL, too) if you are nice to the people you talk to - it is harder to convince someone of your point if you made them angry before, is it not?) and i like talking (and you learn more this way, too - about the person you talk to and about the world (of Thedas) and its lore)

greetings LAX

And that's why they call it role playing, because you play generally something you're in reality, not. It's what makes the Qunari/Kossith so intriguing, and the wonder of how much it changes the dynamics of how people interact with your character.

It's why I loved Drizzt. He was a dark elf, commonly known for evil, but trying to be good in a world that for all intents and purposes, was scared of his potential for evil doings. A thing he was fighting against, with every fabric of his being. And with that in mind, not every Kossith will have the same mentality as another.

[Sjpelke]

For me a kossith Inquisitor would not work because from what we know from the lore their personalities are to much set.

[Heimdall]

TsadeeHekate wrote...

For me a kossith Inquisitor would not work because from what we know from the lore their personalities are to much set.

...Explain

[Toasted Llama]

I like how most people say it's impossible for a Qunari (or Kossith, if you think Qunari is too general) to be the Inquisitor because he follows the Qun.

It's exactly THOSE kind of people that I LOVE to play as because they have the most interesting and unpredictable stories you can think of. You would totally NOT see it coming if you were given the option to play as a Qunari (that follows the Qun) and if they implement some sort of recognision or background story this can bring up some interesting ideas. It requires ALOT of brainstorming to make a Qunari that follows the Qun able to be an Inquisitor. Much better stories than for example the human noble origin from Origins. (Booo, my entire family is killed, I have a tragic past and now I obviously want Revenge on those who "coincidentially" are allies with the somewhat main antagonist. Nothing against it, but it's pretty ... "standard".)

And about this "the Qun would hate you if you're an Inquisitor", perhaps your Qunari could start a revolution amongst other Qunari? (This could be a standard event if they would add a Qun-following Qunari companion)

[Pyce]

You know to me Dragon Age is an allegory for Europe in the middle ages. Tevinter loosely is Roman Empire. The Chantry is the The Catholic Church. The Templars are.. well the Templars. And the Qunari are the Moors. Throw in some magic, demons, and dragons, shake it up well and voilà Dragon Age.
Being Qunari is paladin like minus the divine power. Strict code to live by. Follow the tenets to the T or become banished or killed. So I could see playing as an actual Qunari.

[ziloe]

Pyce wrote...

You know to me Dragon Age is an allegory for Europe in the middle ages. Tevinter loosely is Roman Empire. The Chantry is the The Catholic Church. The Templars are.. well the Templars. And the Qunari are the Moors. Throw in some magic, demons, and dragons, shake it up well and voilà Dragon Age.
Being Qunari is paladin like minus the divine power. Strict code to live by. Follow the tenets to the T or become banished or killed. So I could see playing as an actual Qunari.

Welcome to the Fantasy genre. Enjoy your stay. ;P

[Potato Cat]

I'd love to play as a Ben-Hassrath, especially if we got some Tallis armour. Really, that armour was so nice, I was so jealous. But if I was a Qunari, I'd like to be an elf. Conversely, playing a Qunari, I would not want to be a follower of the Qun. (This is why I feel we should be allowed to use the term Kossith, stop all the confusion!)

[ziloe]

Jayne126 wrote...

I think they're still too "alien" to really implement them as a playable race.

After sevearl books/comics, and the few games... not really.

[Bigdoser]

I would so play a kossith and if they added a "no" dialogue option it would make my day. XD

[Sjpelke]

Lord Aesir wrote...

TsadeeHekate wrote...

For me a kossith Inquisitor would not work because from what we know from the lore their personalities are to much set.

...Explain

Roleplaying a character needs that character to be flexible in believes and ways of handling things.

Kossith are pretty much set and from what is known they are not flexible enough to be whatever character the player wants them to be.

[mannitt]

A kossith who has never followed the Qun and maybe even has never heard of it. I think would be the best. Not as the PC. More like a companion. I think there is more lore and just all around new stuff that can be added with that. As it is the only thing we really know about them is a small group of them came to Ferelden around the first blight and maybe were all killed off. Also that's where Ogre's come from. Then the Qunari show up out of nowhere. So that would be interesting to me.

[BouncyFrag]

ziloe wrote...

BouncyFrag wrote...

Good idea. As it is a good idea, my inner pessimist says this will only ensure that it won't happen at all. Can't be having nice things now can we? I wouldn't object to Bioware removing the elves and putting the Qunari in its place as a playable race.

Ha, I think a few might object to losing elves. Hell, just for my new playthrough of DA2, I modded my game so I could play an elf. Hm, I wonder if there's a mod for a Qunari too...

I suppose, but could you imagine the forum if this went down? It would be glorious!

[Pyce]

I wonder if we play as a Kossith or Qunari if there will be a LI. I don't know if Sten was joking or not. But what he said about mating would be a really funny scene. You know wearing armor biting though metal. Using a metal crowbar that is heated in a fire as a safety word.

Modifié par Pyce, 12 août 2013 - 04:38 .

[jontepwn]

If we are to play a Qunari, I think it would have to be a Qunari brought up under special circumstances. Kind of like Worf in Star Trek TNG or Superman. Make the backstory that you are found as a baby in a pile of rubble. Then brought up by parents that are not your own people, so you will not be tied to any specific ideology or faction. Then we would be free to chose if our character is content with how they were brought up, or want to become more like a Qunari, or perhaps another goal in mind.

I think it would be interesting meeting other Qunari as they would be more hostile towards you, calling you "outcast" or something, and you can say you are a true Qunari despite your upbringing. As I said, kinda like Worf.

Modifié par jontepwn, 12 août 2013 - 04:49 .

[Mykel54]

I think a tal vashoth who is unhappy being a thug and wants to do some good could work, bu i dont see a qunari leading the inquisition, or joining any organization of not qunari. The tal vashoth would be more open minded and willing to fight in his newfound role, which would also justify female PCs being fighters, or saarebas not being leashed.

[Qyla]

Asking for a Qunari Inquisitor is like asking for a catholic pagan.

[BouncyFrag]

Qyla wrote...

Asking for a Qunari Inquisitor is like asking for a catholic pagan.

We see a fair number of them in US politics.