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[Mornmagor]

Taleroth wrote...

Toasted Llama wrote...

I vote for no genocide or annihalation at all...

It may sound weird but I actually like the Qun. Very practical, organized and everything. Sure, it has it's perks considering mages, but individualism leads to competition and competition ultimately leads to war and war only. Oh and war means you can get killed or terrible treatment/torture no matter who or what you are. I'd say sometimes you have to sacrifice a few to save the many.

Limited resources leads to war. The Qun has no solution for this.

Oh, but they have.

Let's invade and claim to be enlightening everyone about the Qun.

As you said, war is about resources. That's all there is to it.

They will try to invade. When they do, they're getting what they asked for.

No need for ideologies, or genocides, or whatever.

I ask you to be my friend and coexist. You don't want that, you want me to follow your ideals instead, and if i don't, you'll kill me. But that is just an ideological facade, you just want every resource available.

Intolerance of difference, Totalitarians, Ruthless, claiming to be enlightening everyone. What is there to like about them?

Modifié par Kuroi Kishin, 13 août 2013 - 03:52 .

[DarkKnightHolmes]

I rather wipe out the annoying humans called 'nobles'. There always the most uptight and ignorant ones.

Modifié par DarkKnightHolmes, 13 août 2013 - 04:10 .

[74 Wrex]

I hate the Qun because of how they think they are better than everyone else and how they deem others 'unworthy' or 'weak' so yes let us have the option of destroying the Qun.

[funmachine]

Great, another "wipe out faction x" thread. We definitely didn't have enough of those before.

I find it rather disturbing how people get so worked up over imaginary groups that they're aching to grind them to virtual dust.

[74 Wrex]

funmachine wrote...

Great, another "wipe out faction x" thread. We definitely didn't have enough of those before.

I find it rather disturbing how people get so worked up over imaginary groups that they're aching to grind them to virtual dust.

Cause We can't stand them imaginary or not

[Magdalena11]

Genocide isn't the best option. I usually free the werewolves from their curse, spare the Dalish (twice) and avoid needless slaughter. After meeting Sten I would hesitate to slaughter the Qunari unless a mass invasion was involved. I don't find their philosophy compelling but I object to the slaughter of people because they are. If there's a scenario where the Qunari are invading and slaughtering innocents I'd have to act but otherwise not my battle.

[Toasted Llama]

Taleroth wrote...

Toasted Llama wrote...

I vote for no genocide or annihalation at all...

It may sound weird but I actually like the Qun. Very practical, organized and everything. Sure, it has it's perks considering mages, but individualism leads to competition and competition ultimately leads to war and war only. Oh and war means you can get killed or terrible treatment/torture no matter who or what you are. I'd say sometimes you have to sacrifice a few to save the many.

Limited resources leads to war. The Qun has no solution for this.

It can be one of the reasons yes, but nobody has a solution for that. (Actually I have no idea why you brought it up because there are things nobody can solve and limited resources is one of them) My original point was though, if you put 4 Qunari's in one room, they'd most likely agree with eachother and do the task they were born for to do (perfect situation would have at least 1 farmer and 1 guard). I'd dare to bet that if you put 4 individually thinking humans in 1 room there's bound to be at least arguments.

[Toasted Llama]

EntropicAngel wrote...

Toasted Llama wrote...

I vote for no genocide or annihalation at all...

It may sound weird but I actually like the Qun. Very practical, organized and everything. Sure, it has it's perks considering mages, but individualism leads to competition and competition ultimately leads to war and war only. Oh and war means you can get killed or terrible treatment/torture no matter who or what you are. I'd say sometimes you have to sacrifice a few to save the many.

You must not know what capitalism is.

Ah, forget it, this isn't the place is it.

Since when is trying to be better than everyone else and trying to be as rich and powerfull as you possibly can related to capitalism?

Not that capitalism is so amazing anyway. Can't really say that the huge differene between poor and rich is so amazing.

[The Spirit of Dance]

Why not get the option to kill at least one colony of every race. That way everyone can fulfill their own personal genocide fantasy.

[Iron Fist]

supremebloodwolf wrote...

Why not get the option to kill at least one colony of every race. That way everyone can fulfill their own personal genocide fantasy.

That's counterproductive to my goal of NOT committing genocide.

[Paul E Dangerously]

Wasn't wading hip deep in Qunari blood in DA2 enough for you?

[Lokiwithrope]

Sopa de Gato wrote...

Wasn't wading hip deep in Qunari blood in DA2 enough for you?

No. I don't like their way of thinking, therefore, they must die.

[Navasha]

Well, I don't feel the need to attack the Qunari directly, as long as they stay put and don't try to expand. The moment though they that try to invade and/or forcibly subject more innocent people to the slavery of the Qun, I would jump at the chance to end their threat once and for all.

No one should ever be forced to have their individualism stripped from them and forced into slavery by society.

[sandalisthemaker]

Navasha wrote...

Well, I don't feel the need to attack the Qunari directly, as long as they stay put and don't try to expand. The moment though they that try to invade and/or forcibly subject more innocent people to the slavery of the Qun, I would jump at the chance to end their threat once and for all.

No one should ever be forced to have their individualism stripped from them and forced into slavery by society.

That's the problem. The Qun demands that they convert *by force if necessary* or kill those who refuse. The World of Thedas has entries that indicate that the other cultures of Thedas disgust them and that they must convert or slaughter everyone 'for their own good.' 
The Arishok also stated as much in DA2.

Modifié par sandalisthemaker, 14 août 2013 - 12:41 .

[Kirikou]

funmachine wrote...

Great, another "wipe out faction x" thread. We definitely didn't have enough of those before.

I find it rather disturbing how people get so worked up over imaginary groups that they're aching to grind them to virtual dust.

Since we didn't get to wipe out all of those damn dirty batarians I doubt we'll be able to commit genocide against the Qunari.

[KiwiQuiche]

Yup, I'm all for equal genocide opportunities.

The Dalish are all bark and no bite, while the Qunari need a boot up their ass big time.

[EmperorSahlertz]

KallianaTabris wrote...

Yes, yes, let's have the opportunity to commit genocide in a video game!

As if this world isn't effed up enough already, we have a person asking for an opportunity to wipe a group of people out. I understand the OP's intention; let's focus on another people group and leave the dalish alone...but this is still a request for genocide. Fictional context aside, it's a sick request. Like asking for more options to rape or torture in a game....

I'd rather see more options to peacefully resolve things using other skills such as stealth, persuasion, etc. Sometimes games like this rely on too many conflicts to turn into battles.

Finally someone who makes sense.

Not only is it a sick request, to desire genocide. It is also extremely offensive.

[Xilizhra]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

KallianaTabris wrote...

Yes, yes, let's have the opportunity to commit genocide in a video game!

As if this world isn't effed up enough already, we have a person asking for an opportunity to wipe a group of people out. I understand the OP's intention; let's focus on another people group and leave the dalish alone...but this is still a request for genocide. Fictional context aside, it's a sick request. Like asking for more options to rape or torture in a game....

I'd rather see more options to peacefully resolve things using other skills such as stealth, persuasion, etc. Sometimes games like this rely on too many conflicts to turn into battles.

Finally someone who makes sense.

Not only is it a sick request, to desire genocide. It is also extremely offensive.

Ah, I never knew you sided with the mages at the end of DA2.

[EmperorSahlertz]

Xilizhra wrote...

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

KallianaTabris wrote...

Yes, yes, let's have the opportunity to commit genocide in a video game!

As if this world isn't effed up enough already, we have a person asking for an opportunity to wipe a group of people out. I understand the OP's intention; let's focus on another people group and leave the dalish alone...but this is still a request for genocide. Fictional context aside, it's a sick request. Like asking for more options to rape or torture in a game....

I'd rather see more options to peacefully resolve things using other skills such as stealth, persuasion, etc. Sometimes games like this rely on too many conflicts to turn into battles.

Finally someone who makes sense.

Not only is it a sick request, to desire genocide. It is also extremely offensive.

Ah, I never knew you sided with the mages at the end of DA2.

Actually on my first playthrough, which often follows my personal morals and ideas, I did side with the mages. That doesn't mean I'm not a supporter of the Circles. It just means I did not agree with Meredith.

[Xilizhra]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

KallianaTabris wrote...

Yes, yes, let's have the opportunity to commit genocide in a video game!

As if this world isn't effed up enough already, we have a person asking for an opportunity to wipe a group of people out. I understand the OP's intention; let's focus on another people group and leave the dalish alone...but this is still a request for genocide. Fictional context aside, it's a sick request. Like asking for more options to rape or torture in a game....

I'd rather see more options to peacefully resolve things using other skills such as stealth, persuasion, etc. Sometimes games like this rely on too many conflicts to turn into battles.

Finally someone who makes sense.

Not only is it a sick request, to desire genocide. It is also extremely offensive.

Ah, I never knew you sided with the mages at the end of DA2.

Actually on my first playthrough, which often follows my personal morals and ideas, I did side with the mages. That doesn't mean I'm not a supporter of the Circles. It just means I did not agree with Meredith.

Very well, there are people on your side who are worse than you are.
I'm not for genociding the qunari, but I am for stopping their threat.

[EmperorSahlertz]

Indeed. There are worse people on every side. But yes, stopping the Qunari threat, should be a priority. But there are several ways of doing so. Many of them aren't even militarily. The different societies of Thedas could for instance start to develop themselves, such as to not appear so uncivilized to the Qunari. If Thedas starts to appear less barbaric and underdeveloped to the Qunari, the Qunari will start to think more highly of Thedas. As it is, they think they need to invade, because they want to improve the lives of the rest of Thedas. We simply need to prove to them, that this is not the case.

[Xilizhra]

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

Indeed. There are worse people on every side. But yes, stopping the Qunari threat, should be a priority. But there are several ways of doing so. Many of them aren't even militarily. The different societies of Thedas could for instance start to develop themselves, such as to not appear so uncivilized to the Qunari. If Thedas starts to appear less barbaric and underdeveloped to the Qunari, the Qunari will start to think more highly of Thedas. As it is, they think they need to invade, because they want to improve the lives of the rest of Thedas. We simply need to prove to them, that this is not the case.

Given that they'll probably want to invade to subjugate the mages I'm intent on freeing, I doubt that'll be an option.

[Vortex13]

 I will only be for such a scenario if, when taking out the  Dalish ... I mean Qunari, I will be able to recruit a horde of werewolves, or something as equally awesome.

[Wompoo]

Never did that in DA:O and to be honest never could, ever. As for the goat men, after that mindless fight with the Arishok, and his constant charging around like some steroid feed bull, I'm all for emasculating them and sending of to pasture... totally pointless massacre as in a TES game? no again.