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Is the Reegar not as deliciously cheesy on console as on PC?

Débuté par NuclearTech76 , août 12 2013 06:34

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#101
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Posté 13 août 2013 - 12:11

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xSiQ wrote...

Why is everyone hating on the Reegar? I consistently score 150-200k with it on the QMI playing U/U/G
It's always treated me well, seems like a pretty simple weapon to use

You must be new here.

Poeple who hate on the reegar are those that get outscored by a pug using reegar and their egos can't take it.

#102
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Posté 13 août 2013 - 12:39

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Very interesting. I'll be following this to see what all weapons and powers this effects. It sounds like the fps is likely to effect some thing other than the Reegar. This makes me not want to ever attempt shooting through the window on Glacier or put a GSMG on a Destroyer as I know that's causes some obvious frame rate loss.

And it may mean that my Kroguard can finally stop wearing pink armor out of shame for not being able to match Reegar damage shown in PC videos of solos.

#103
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Posté 13 août 2013 - 12:41

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Midnight98 wrote...

xSiQ wrote...

Why is everyone hating on the Reegar? I consistently score 150-200k with it on the QMI playing U/U/G
It's always treated me well, seems like a pretty simple weapon to use

You must be new here.

Poeple who hate on the reegar are those that get outscored by a pug using reegar and their egos can't take it.


What are you trying to say, people playing an online video game take this shiz too serious?
I'm not buying it...

#104
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Posté 13 août 2013 - 12:59

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Old reegar test data

Some more silver ravager tests (time speed up factor 1.0375x timescale)


Milliseconds_Between_Shots  Damage_Inflicted
(measured using Windows time ( is the number of milliseconds elapsed since the system was last started.))

Reegar Clip 22

Start 36.000000
16 36.000000
17 36.000000
2 36.000000
23 36.000000
15 36.000000
1 36.000000
18 36.000000

100 36.000000
18 36.000000
2 36.000000
26 36.000000
1 36.000000
20 36.000000
2 36.000000

44 36.000000
0 36.000000
25 36.000000
1 36.000000
52 36.000000
1 36.000000
24 36.000000
1 36.000000

48 36.000000
0 36.000000
27 36.000000
1 36.000000
44 36.000000
2 36.000000
20 36.000000
0 36.000000

42 36.000000
1 36.000000
28 36.000000
1 36.000000
48 36.000000
1 36.000000
19 36.000000
2 36.000000

48 36.000000
1 36.000000
21 36.000000
1 36.000000
41 36.000000
1 36.000000
26 36.000000
1 36.000000

45 36.000000
3 36.000000
24 36.000000
1 36.000000
40 36.000000
0 36.000000
23 36.000000
1 36.000000

44 36.000000
1 36.000000
20 36.000000
1 36.000000
36 36.000000
2 36.000000
23 36.000000

39 36.000000
25 36.000000
2 36.000000
45 36.000000
2 36.000000
29 36.000000
1 36.000000

46 36.000000
1 36.000000
27 36.000000
0 36.000000
46 36.000000
1 36.000000
22 36.000000
1 36.000000

50 36.000000
1 36.000000
25 36.000000
1 36.000000
41 36.000000
1 36.000000
19 36.000000
1 36.000000

46 36.000000
1 36.000000
19 36.000000
2 36.000000
22 36.000000
0 36.000000
26 36.000000
1 36.000000

Most hits inflicted during many many tests - 93 ...

After a bit of a wobbly start each 2 pellet hits seem to be applied nearly instantly ... Time between shots ~45 milliseconds 60000 / 45 ~ 1333,33333 RPM ? Keep in mind game is speed up in silver and applying all 8 pellet effects takes time ...

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Also my PC doesn't do 60 FPS with ME3 in window mode  (in 40-50 range) - but since I was using a smaller during test sessions maybe...

Modifié par peddroelmz, 13 août 2013 - 01:02 .

#105
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Posté 13 août 2013 - 01:00

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Midnight98 wrote...

xSiQ wrote...

Why is everyone hating on the Reegar? I consistently score 150-200k with it on the QMI playing U/U/G
It's always treated me well, seems like a pretty simple weapon to use

You must be new here.

Poeple who hate on the reegar are those that get outscored by a pug using reegar and their egos can't take it.

 I've actually never been outscored by a Reegar using pug.  I've been outscored by plenty of other 'cheesy' combos e.g. Krysae GI (back when it was good), QME grenade spam, Bat Soldier etc...

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Posté 13 août 2013 - 01:03

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Midnight98 wrote...

xSiQ wrote...

Why is everyone hating on the Reegar? I consistently score 150-200k with it on the QMI playing U/U/G
It's always treated me well, seems like a pretty simple weapon to use

You must be new here.

Poeple who hate on the reegar are those that get outscored by a pug using reegar and their egos can't take it.


totally not because it is retardedly OP. 

#107
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Posté 13 août 2013 - 01:05

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xSiQ wrote...

Why is everyone hating on the Reegar? I consistently score 150-200k with it on the QMI playing U/U/G
It's always treated me well, seems like a pretty simple weapon to use


You already said it all. We had a year to build a consensus. It's cheesyness undermines our elite skillz and washes the pug scrubs ashore.
Also, this discussion secretly attacks another well established consensus: That we are the master race and not the console peasants. If, what the OP is saying is true - do console peasants have acquired skill??? Ah well, I guess our glory illuminated their gaming life and improved it for the better.

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Posté 13 août 2013 - 01:11

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Does lag affect fps?

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Posté 13 août 2013 - 01:30

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Posté 13 août 2013 - 01:41

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xSiQ wrote...

Why is everyone hating on the Reegar? I consistently score 150-200k with it on the QMI playing U/U/G
It's always treated me well, seems like a pretty simple weapon to use

Use it on every kit and play regularly for a while and then try something else. It trivializes the game and that's fine if that is what you want but it gets boring quick.

#111
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Posté 13 août 2013 - 01:47

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NuclearTech76 wrote...

xSiQ wrote...

Why is everyone hating on the Reegar? I consistently score 150-200k with it on the QMI playing U/U/G
It's always treated me well, seems like a pretty simple weapon to use

Use it on every kit and play regularly for a while and then try something else. It trivializes the game and that's fine if that is what you want but it gets boring quick.


I have all my classes set up so each weapon is used at least once and assigned to specific characters.

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Posté 13 août 2013 - 01:49

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xSiQ wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

xSiQ wrote...

Why is everyone hating on the Reegar? I consistently score 150-200k with it on the QMI playing U/U/G
It's always treated me well, seems like a pretty simple weapon to use

Use it on every kit and play regularly for a while and then try something else. It trivializes the game and that's fine if that is what you want but it gets boring quick.


I have all my classes set up so each weapon is used at least once and assigned to specific characters.

Just saying some play for fun and the Reegar is too easy to be fun for some. There are others who have no clue how to use it.

Edit: Who drew the short straw and got the Avenger? :lol:

Modifié par NuclearTech76, 13 août 2013 - 01:50 .

#113
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Posté 13 août 2013 - 01:56

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NuclearTech76 wrote...

xSiQ wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

xSiQ wrote...

Why is everyone hating on the Reegar? I consistently score 150-200k with it on the QMI playing U/U/G
It's always treated me well, seems like a pretty simple weapon to use

Use it on every kit and play regularly for a while and then try something else. It trivializes the game and that's fine if that is what you want but it gets boring quick.


I have all my classes set up so each weapon is used at least once and assigned to specific characters.

Just saying some play for fun and the Reegar is too easy to be fun for some. There are others who have no clue how to use it.

Edit: Who drew the short straw and got the Avenger? :lol:


I understand what you're saying

Avenger went to Human Soldiers since I don't really use them anyways

#114
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Posté 13 août 2013 - 02:05

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DHKany wrote...

Midnight98 wrote...

xSiQ wrote...

Why is everyone hating on the Reegar? I consistently score 150-200k with it on the QMI playing U/U/G
It's always treated me well, seems like a pretty simple weapon to use

You must be new here.

Poeple who hate on the reegar are those that get outscored by a pug using reegar and their egos can't take it.


totally not because it is retardedly OP. 


Because it is not, at all, for the average player, but then we have had this discussion many a time.

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Posté 13 août 2013 - 02:18

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Beerfish wrote...

Because it is not, at all, for the average player, but then we have had this discussion many a time.

And then there was the AIU.

#116
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Posté 13 août 2013 - 02:42

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^More like, then we discovered Incendiary cheese.

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Posté 13 août 2013 - 02:46

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xSiQ wrote...

Midnight98 wrote...

xSiQ wrote...

Why is everyone hating on the Reegar? I consistently score 150-200k with it on the QMI playing U/U/G
It's always treated me well, seems like a pretty simple weapon to use

You must be new here.

Poeple who hate on the reegar are those that get outscored by a pug using reegar and their egos can't take it.


What are you trying to say, people playing an online video game take this shiz too serious?
I'm not buying it...

People QQing about stuff is the primary reason things get nerfed across all games.

Hopefully the reegar remains untouched.

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Posté 13 août 2013 - 02:48

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ISHYGDDT wrote...

Midnight98 wrote...

xSiQ wrote...

Why is everyone hating on the Reegar? I consistently score 150-200k with it on the QMI playing U/U/G
It's always treated me well, seems like a pretty simple weapon to use

You must be new here.

Poeple who hate on the reegar are those that get outscored by a pug using reegar and their egos can't take it.

 I've actually never been outscored by a Reegar using pug.  I've been outscored by plenty of other 'cheesy' combos e.g. Krysae GI (back when it was good), QME grenade spam, Bat Soldier etc...

Indeed reegar using pugs are a rarity. And even if someone uses it they just equip it with disruptor or phasic rounds. AP rounds some of the times.

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Posté 13 août 2013 - 02:48

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Bioware stopped supporting this game, what 5 months ago?

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Posté 13 août 2013 - 02:55

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Thanks Annomander for running this test. When I had written at one point that PC Reegar is something different than console Reegar I got so much hate from the PC crew. I have no issue with PC gamers at all but the Reegar seemed to me to be frame rate dependent. I have been analyzing quite a few PC platinum solo's as Im working on a few and have noticed this major difference. Its not a cheat its just how the weapon is dependent.

Things can be confused on the internet anyway, still I had no issue with the differences on PC's capability of changing frame rate but would get judged when using the Reegar on console (which I rarely use) for a solo and have it compared to PC videos where players are dropping Atlas's and everything on site with one clip when I couldnt even do the same.

Nice work on the test. I have been working on a Melee Platinum solo and am getting really close to finishing one but I (probably silly) wonder if frame rate affects melee damage as well? I'll PM you if anything with the details if you have the time it would be cool to know. I have been comparing a solo that I am doing with two others on the net but cant for the life of me come to the same kind of damage or gameplay or even survivability. Anyway, thanks for running the tests.

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Posté 13 août 2013 - 03:00

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Now everything makes sense. And BSN finally needs to stop ****ing about people who are using the reegar.

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Posté 13 août 2013 - 03:01

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Midnight98 wrote...

xSiQ wrote...

Midnight98 wrote...

xSiQ wrote...

Why is everyone hating on the Reegar? I consistently score 150-200k with it on the QMI playing U/U/G
It's always treated me well, seems like a pretty simple weapon to use

You must be new here.

Poeple who hate on the reegar are those that get outscored by a pug using reegar and their egos can't take it.


What are you trying to say, people playing an online video game take this shiz too serious?
I'm not buying it...

People QQing about stuff is the primary reason things get nerfed across all games.

Hopefully the reegar remains untouched.


Bioware have left the building, there will never be any more buffs or nerfs.

Also, forum complaints about a weapons performance must have had a very minor impact on Fagnan's decisions, eg. plenty of people complained bitterly about the Reegar immediately after it was released up till balance changes stopped yet it does the same damage as it always did.

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Posté 13 août 2013 - 03:01

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Chromatix wrote...

Annomander wrote...

Confirmed. The reegar is indeed a frame rate dependent weapon, due to it's fire rate probably.

Used fraps to hard cap my FPS and tested versus atlas armour, using the same set up (lolcendiary).

120 FPS; reegar consistently burned through 10 bars of shield and 7 bars of armour in one clip, with little to no variance.

60 FPS; reegar burned through 10 bars of shield and 5 bars of armour in one clip, with little to no variance.

30 FPS: Reegar burned through 9 bars of shield in one clip, again with no variance.

15 FPS: Reegar burned through a measly 2 bars of shield in a single clip.

Each day i discover that this game is glitchier and glitchier. 

this

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Posté 13 août 2013 - 03:05

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Ultner wrote...

Now everything makes sense. And BSN finally needs to stop ****ing about people who are using the reegar.


I honestly think the hate must be due to solo's with the gun. I have played TONS of public matches on both Gold and Platinum and I think I have come accross someone using the Reegar maybe 3 times in my entire time playing this game. Its rarely used in Public matches as its an up close and personal weapon which doesnt suit for UUG/UUP when you dont know if you'll get a map like London or Vancouver where by the time you get to the enemy its already dead by a sniper player. The hate on the Reegar doesnt make sense to me really.

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Posté 13 août 2013 - 03:07

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Midnight98 wrote...

ISHYGDDT wrote...

Midnight98 wrote...

xSiQ wrote...

Why is everyone hating on the Reegar? I consistently score 150-200k with it on the QMI playing U/U/G
It's always treated me well, seems like a pretty simple weapon to use

You must be new here.

Poeple who hate on the reegar are those that get outscored by a pug using reegar and their egos can't take it.

 I've actually never been outscored by a Reegar using pug.  I've been outscored by plenty of other 'cheesy' combos e.g. Krysae GI (back when it was good), QME grenade spam, Bat Soldier etc...

Indeed reegar using pugs are a rarity. And even if someone uses it they just equip it with disruptor or phasic rounds. AP rounds some of the times.

  No, not really.  
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