Mass Effect 2, despite having my favourite moment of the trilogy in Tali's loyalty mission, is the one which gave me the most disappointment.
I was a real fan of the combat system in the first game, largely in part because of the dice-roll which ran the thing. ME2 combat irritated me, from the nerfing of biotics to shields that vanished when an enemy breathed in your direction.
While I liked the interrupts in dialogue, I found it frustrating that I was forced down either a paragon or renegade route in order to unlock those conversation options.
I liked the customisation options given to Shepard's armour but hated that I had no such option for my squad beyond palette swaps.
The story was also incredibly disjointed and lacked a quality antagonist.
Some of my issues can be fixed by modding. I can boost shields so they are actually useful, I can add paragon and renegade score so I can pick what conversation options I want.
I will say though that I think that Mass Effect 2 is the best looking of the trilogy.
Mass Effect 3 brought back the cohesive story and squad-mate armour (kind of since each version had different stats) and didn't tie you to a single path (paragon or renegade) in conversations. Yet I felt that the focus of the game had shifted from story to combat.
In short the first game is the one that I like, and have played, the most. For me it is the most complete package of things that I enjoy.
Whats your favorite and least favorite Mass Effect of the series and why?
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Posté 21 août 2013 - 03:28
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Ooh this is tough:
1.) ME3
2.) ME2
3.) ME
In no way am I saying that the original ME bad, but note that I didn't have the right mind to discover it before one day I decided to rent the 2nd one. (Huge regret).
So, ME3:
Amazing game, apart from controversies that all of us suffered, in the end it got better (after fixing). Combat is fluid, nice, and actiony, hardcore scenes really give you that sense of excitement of battle. The story was good with many disgusting plot twists -- but that's what made it so great, they really made you feel like there's so much pressure on Shepard and that the galaxy is crumbling bit by bit. And I finally fell in love with all the characters, really got to see them grow and to see their real sides, especially with the Citadel DLC. Overall: Beautifully crafted tale of loss, sacrifice, friends, and what really matters when everything seems to fall apart.
ME2:
Oh man, where do I start. First, I didn't play ME for I started on ME2 so I did lose some of that initial recovery when meeting characters, and I understand how others who started from the beginning enjoyed and hated the game. But what I really love was that ME2 was the buffer, it really showed what the galaxy is like especially all the black, white, and gray zones. Environments were amazing, lot's of different styles and various locations made the galaxy feel huge, not too mention all the incredible crew-mates and NPCs. Combat I understand was "dumbed" down, though I feel like for the best, heavy weapons was a nice feature too. And first time walking into Afterlife... my goddess, one of those perfect gaming moments just too me off guard with the aura and atmosphere, it was paradise.Overall: Sorta leans to my favorite out of them all because of the Suicide Mission, man that epic music. But the perfect buffer and insight into the ME realm.
ME1:
I really liked this game, the origin of it all and what potential had spawned for such an unknown venture into one of the best gaming, if not thee best gaming series in history. ME really pushed you into the naive nature of exploring and discovering, even though it was dull like 50% of the time, but the characters were good and cheesey in a soothing way. Story of course was awesome, reveal of Sovereign didn't put me in awe like I wished it did but having to see what he's possible of doing was incredible. Inventory was messed up, lack of customization wasn't too big on me but I expected a little bit more, weapons were ok, but abilities were interesting. Biotics felt way more godly in ME, especially throwing a lift and watching a room tear apart (we still never got biotic levitation).Overall: More bland when you've played a variety-pack called ME2, but the origin is never the less the beginning of the phenomenal series.
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I love the series, and always will, every bad move and every good one paves a way for Shep, the Crew, and us, and if anyone tells you video games are just game you make them play this series and Half Life with their eyes open and their minds open. I will never forget these games, they are part of me now as in with most of you all.
1.) ME3
2.) ME2
3.) ME
In no way am I saying that the original ME bad, but note that I didn't have the right mind to discover it before one day I decided to rent the 2nd one. (Huge regret).
So, ME3:
Amazing game, apart from controversies that all of us suffered, in the end it got better (after fixing). Combat is fluid, nice, and actiony, hardcore scenes really give you that sense of excitement of battle. The story was good with many disgusting plot twists -- but that's what made it so great, they really made you feel like there's so much pressure on Shepard and that the galaxy is crumbling bit by bit. And I finally fell in love with all the characters, really got to see them grow and to see their real sides, especially with the Citadel DLC. Overall: Beautifully crafted tale of loss, sacrifice, friends, and what really matters when everything seems to fall apart.
ME2:
Oh man, where do I start. First, I didn't play ME for I started on ME2 so I did lose some of that initial recovery when meeting characters, and I understand how others who started from the beginning enjoyed and hated the game. But what I really love was that ME2 was the buffer, it really showed what the galaxy is like especially all the black, white, and gray zones. Environments were amazing, lot's of different styles and various locations made the galaxy feel huge, not too mention all the incredible crew-mates and NPCs. Combat I understand was "dumbed" down, though I feel like for the best, heavy weapons was a nice feature too. And first time walking into Afterlife... my goddess, one of those perfect gaming moments just too me off guard with the aura and atmosphere, it was paradise.Overall: Sorta leans to my favorite out of them all because of the Suicide Mission, man that epic music. But the perfect buffer and insight into the ME realm.
ME1:
I really liked this game, the origin of it all and what potential had spawned for such an unknown venture into one of the best gaming, if not thee best gaming series in history. ME really pushed you into the naive nature of exploring and discovering, even though it was dull like 50% of the time, but the characters were good and cheesey in a soothing way. Story of course was awesome, reveal of Sovereign didn't put me in awe like I wished it did but having to see what he's possible of doing was incredible. Inventory was messed up, lack of customization wasn't too big on me but I expected a little bit more, weapons were ok, but abilities were interesting. Biotics felt way more godly in ME, especially throwing a lift and watching a room tear apart (we still never got biotic levitation).Overall: More bland when you've played a variety-pack called ME2, but the origin is never the less the beginning of the phenomenal series.
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I love the series, and always will, every bad move and every good one paves a way for Shep, the Crew, and us, and if anyone tells you video games are just game you make them play this series and Half Life with their eyes open and their minds open. I will never forget these games, they are part of me now as in with most of you all.
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Posté 21 août 2013 - 04:16
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Favorite: ME2, because of the soundtrack.
Least Favorite: ME3, because of the soundtrack.
Least Favorite: ME3, because of the soundtrack.
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Posté 21 août 2013 - 04:49
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I am basing mine on heroism.
ME1 has the most heroism. Even Shepard gets to have a moment of heroism in it, although Tali'Zorah nar'Rayya is the most heroic character in the entire series. Why? Because Shepard's evidence is laughed at. Shepard's witness is laughed at. Shepard manages to blow up every bit of evidence possible. Yet Tali presents a piece of evidence on Saren Arterius and Matriarch Benezia that could have been fabricated from sound samples in her basement, and the evidence is irrefutable! That single piece of evidence allows Shepard to become the first Human Spectre, get command of the Normandy SR-1, and defeat Saren Arterius at the Battle of the Citadel, and put an Earth Alliance member on the Council. The Galaxy owes its entire existence to Tali'Zorah, for without her it would have been reaped. Thus Tali'Zorah's heroism is beyond reproach. Without the Quarians she would never have existed. The Council owes them big, as do you.
ME2 is my second favorite. Shepard has once again a moment of heroism. Tali'Zorah again is heroic. Each mission of hers is a complete disaster, yet her people rally behind her, despite what a few admirals say. This makes her heroism even greater.
ME3 is not heroic enough. Shepard can actually cause the most heroic character in the story to commit suicide by being an ungrateful ass and killing her entire race. Her entire family is dead, and then some Shepard kill her entire race in favor of a bunch of machines? She commits suicide to join them which increases her heroism and decreases yours. Then the story has Shepard answering to a kid. That is not heroic. In fact the only character in the entire series with less heroism than Shepard is Shepard's clone. That is pretty sad.
ME1 has the most heroism. Even Shepard gets to have a moment of heroism in it, although Tali'Zorah nar'Rayya is the most heroic character in the entire series. Why? Because Shepard's evidence is laughed at. Shepard's witness is laughed at. Shepard manages to blow up every bit of evidence possible. Yet Tali presents a piece of evidence on Saren Arterius and Matriarch Benezia that could have been fabricated from sound samples in her basement, and the evidence is irrefutable! That single piece of evidence allows Shepard to become the first Human Spectre, get command of the Normandy SR-1, and defeat Saren Arterius at the Battle of the Citadel, and put an Earth Alliance member on the Council. The Galaxy owes its entire existence to Tali'Zorah, for without her it would have been reaped. Thus Tali'Zorah's heroism is beyond reproach. Without the Quarians she would never have existed. The Council owes them big, as do you.
ME2 is my second favorite. Shepard has once again a moment of heroism. Tali'Zorah again is heroic. Each mission of hers is a complete disaster, yet her people rally behind her, despite what a few admirals say. This makes her heroism even greater.
ME3 is not heroic enough. Shepard can actually cause the most heroic character in the story to commit suicide by being an ungrateful ass and killing her entire race. Her entire family is dead, and then some Shepard kill her entire race in favor of a bunch of machines? She commits suicide to join them which increases her heroism and decreases yours. Then the story has Shepard answering to a kid. That is not heroic. In fact the only character in the entire series with less heroism than Shepard is Shepard's clone. That is pretty sad.
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Posté 21 août 2013 - 07:16
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MsKlaussen wrote...
Raizo wrote...
Favourite: Mass Effect 2
Least Favourite: Probably Mass Effect 1. I don't particularly care for ME3 but it is playable. To me ME1 is barely playable.
But is it only barely playable in direct comparison to later games or was it that way from the start? I'm going to assume it wasn't because had it been, there would have been no 2 or 3 for you. And if it was that way from the start, was it played out of sequence (as in you played it after or among the others instead of when it came out)?
I get where you're coming from because the snob in me looks at the graphics now and they look like Loderunner. I can't imagine what I was on that they ever looked good enough to get immersed in, especially compared to what came next, and the ability to customize my FemShep's appearance and whatnot. But I did play it, and I did consider it, next to TES, as the 2nd most treasured series I'd ever gotten involved in, and second again only to TES in terms of games whose sequels I absolutely had to have on launch day.
TES is my favorite series ever and of all the games my favorite will always be Arena. This despite my laughing uncontrollably at the screenshots on wiki now and not even having the ambition to learn DOSBox to play it again.
As I said earlier though, as it is with Arena, so it is with ME1. Can I play it now? Not really. Not without knowing at all times that I'm playing it to prove I can, given how much better games (and ME games) have gotten graphically and mechanically since. It's okay. It's not an all or nothing proposition, where you must agree that the one you consider your fave is the one you are willing to be stuck with forevermore.
It's very difficult for me to put my thoughts and feelings about ME1 into words especially since my opinions on that game change on daily basis. Yesterday ( when I made that post ) I said that ME1 was probably my least favourite ME, tommorow I could easily rank it above ME3.
I bought ME1 at launch and fell in love with the atmospshere and the lore at once. I even enjoyed the first mission ( Eden Prime ) a lot. For me ME fell apart gameplay wise when I got to the Citadel, I spent to much time there walking around, exploring every nook and cranny, talking to everyone and doing every side quest I could ( beacuse I come from an rpg background and this is what you do in rpg's, you leave no stone un-turned ), by the time I left the Citadel I had forgotten what ME1's plot was about. Things got worse when I got the Normandy and I began exploring other planets instead of carrying on with the main quest.
To make a long story short, I finsihed ME2 before I finsihed ME1. My issues with ME1 come mostly from how it is structured. I don't like the way ME1's content ( for lack of a better word ) is made available to the player ( I have no issue with the quanity of it, only the quality and availablity of it ). I've only beaten ME1 once, I've tried going back to it but there always comes a point where I loose interest and give up.
The reason why ME2 always has and will always be my favourite ME game ( despite it's numerous faults ) is because I like the way the game is structured, the way it flows, the way the ME Universe slowly opens up to the player. It's also a fun game, aside from planet scanning ( which any sane person would hate ) almost everything in ME2 is fun to do, I can't say that about ME1 and ME3.
To me ME3 also has structure problems, where ME1's world was too open ME3's is too linear. Bad writing, poor planning and too many short cuts ( eavesdrop dilaougue and fetch quests ) hurt ME3 which is a shame because a few tweaks here and there could have made ME3 a radically different game ( and more enjoyable, at least to me ), having said that it is still playable. The gameplay is solid enough, I just have no motivation to invest more of my precious time playing it.
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Posté 21 août 2013 - 08:12
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shodiswe wrote...
I like them all for different reasons. And each one of them got their own issues.
I saw this thread for a while now but I am having a hard time responding to it. The above quote is pretty much how I feel but it doesn't really fir the premise of the thread.
If I had to rank them, 1st place would probably go to ME1 but I will be the first to admit that a good deal of nostalgia is responsible for that. ME1 was new, it introduced me to the ME universe (well, as a visual medium anyway, I had read revelation before starting the game) and it was the first time, I experienced an immersive shooter gameplay combined with a truly cinematic story and a huge amount of dialogue and many interesting NPCs.
I think that ME1 has the least immersion breakers of all ME games. It immediatly pulls you in through the character creation and it keeps you immersed in the universe. No loading screens (on pc, the elevator rides are actually of reasonable length), a believable galaxy map without a tiny model ship or stupid scanning minigames on plastic ball planets in it, no "mission complete" screens like in ME2 and a coherent plot. Add heaps of exploration and a lore that was still very consistent at the time and you had an awesome game.
Of course, the combat gameplay improved with ME2 and ME3, the graphics got better, conversation got more elaborate and dynamic, the dialogue system got improved with interrupts and whatnot, the arguably cumbersome inventory system was tuned down to a manageable level and that is all great and I can see how it makes the later games a better experience. However, many of the things I cared most about in Mass Effect 1 were either removed, neglected or compromised and given that most of the above points are technical improvements which are to be expected in sequels, So, I stand by the fact that despite it's flaws, ME1 is my favorite part of the trilogy.
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Posté 22 août 2013 - 12:03
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Raizo wrote...
It's very difficult for me to put my thoughts and feelings about ME1 into words especially since my opinions on that game change on daily basis. Yesterday ( when I made that post ) I said that ME1 was probably my least favourite ME, tommorow I could easily rank it above ME3.
I bought ME1 at launch and fell in love with the atmospshere and the lore at once. I even enjoyed the first mission ( Eden Prime ) a lot. For me ME fell apart gameplay wise when I got to the Citadel, I spent to much time there walking around, exploring every nook and cranny, talking to everyone and doing every side quest I could ( beacuse I come from an rpg background and this is what you do in rpg's, you leave no stone un-turned ), by the time I left the Citadel I had forgotten what ME1's plot was about. Things got worse when I got the Normandy and I began exploring other planets instead of carrying on with the main quest.
To make a long story short, I finsihed ME2 before I finsihed ME1. My issues with ME1 come mostly from how it is structured. I don't like the way ME1's content ( for lack of a better word ) is made available to the player ( I have no issue with the quanity of it, only the quality and availablity of it ). I've only beaten ME1 once, I've tried going back to it but there always comes a point where I loose interest and give up.
The reason why ME2 always has and will always be my favourite ME game ( despite it's numerous faults ) is because I like the way the game is structured, the way it flows, the way the ME Universe slowly opens up to the player. It's also a fun game, aside from planet scanning ( which any sane person would hate ) almost everything in ME2 is fun to do, I can't say that about ME1 and ME3.
To me ME3 also has structure problems, where ME1's world was too open ME3's is too linear. Bad writing, poor planning and too many short cuts ( eavesdrop dilaougue and fetch quests ) hurt ME3 which is a shame because a few tweaks here and there could have made ME3 a radically different game ( and more enjoyable, at least to me ), having said that it is still playable. The gameplay is solid enough, I just have no motivation to invest more of my precious time playing it.
Haha. Okay yes I get you. If pressed into specifics, I would have the exact same analysis results you do. The games are just as you put them in terms of structure and how they flow, and either force the action (or scoot the player forward) or completely go hands off and let the player dictate.
I also come from an rpg background, hence my love for TES, and with that in mind I have to tell you this is the first time I can ever remember a fellow rpg alumni referring to open ended play and getting distracted from the main game by exploration as an area that could use improvement! You may need to turn in your id card and key to the Ultima Nude V.I.P. Leisure Spa after this, I'm afraid. There may be nothing more I can do
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Posté 24 août 2013 - 05:26
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2...3....1.
1 has a great story but its hard to replay for me due to combat...Me2 is epic...Me3 is emotional and some great fun
1 has a great story but its hard to replay for me due to combat...Me2 is epic...Me3 is emotional and some great fun
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Posté 25 août 2013 - 12:57
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Favorite: ME2
Least Favorite: ME
ME is repetitive, with awful gameplay. The environments were meh, the characters were okay, but a good story doesn't make up for the awful world it is set in.
Least Favorite: ME
ME is repetitive, with awful gameplay. The environments were meh, the characters were okay, but a good story doesn't make up for the awful world it is set in.
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Posté 25 août 2013 - 09:26
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Favorite ME2 - Liked the crew, missions and working for Cerberus. Illusive man is just cool as hell in this one, everything about the game feels like a massive step up from the first one.
Least ME1 - Maybe if I had played it when it first came out id have some sort of nostalgic connection to it but I played it after ME2, game play, companions, missions & story are all way inferior, aside from the story line which I enjoyed completing it almost felt like a chore, just to get my save to import.
Least ME1 - Maybe if I had played it when it first came out id have some sort of nostalgic connection to it but I played it after ME2, game play, companions, missions & story are all way inferior, aside from the story line which I enjoyed completing it almost felt like a chore, just to get my save to import.
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Posté 26 août 2013 - 06:50
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Favorite: ME1, for the amazing 80's sci-fi atmosphere, decent story and (still) being the best game in the series.
Least Favorite: ME2, for being the worst game in the series and for setting the series up for failure. This game is where it started go down hill story-wise.
Basically:
ME1>ME3>ME2
Least Favorite: ME2, for being the worst game in the series and for setting the series up for failure. This game is where it started go down hill story-wise.
Basically:
ME1>ME3>ME2
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Posté 26 août 2013 - 02:58
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Heretic_Hanar wrote...
Favorite: ME1, for the amazing 80's sci-fi atmosphere, decent story and (still) being the best game in the series.
Least Favorite: ME2, for being the worst game in the series and for setting the series up for failure. This game is where it started go down hill story-wise.
Basically:
ME1>ME3>ME2
i agree with what you said about me2
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Posté 26 août 2013 - 03:00
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Favorite: ME3
It's the continuation of my Shepard's story from ME1 and ME2. Simple as that. I also believe the overall gameplay is better...better combat, more squad banter etc.
Least Favorite: ME2
Shepard cannot walk correctly. Simple as that.
It's the continuation of my Shepard's story from ME1 and ME2. Simple as that. I also believe the overall gameplay is better...better combat, more squad banter etc.
Least Favorite: ME2
Shepard cannot walk correctly. Simple as that.
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Posté 27 août 2013 - 03:41
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ME for the win! Seriously more conceive story, lots of kick backs to good sci fi series, compelling villain I love to hate, respectful clothing for all my female crew + lead, she runs and walks the best in this one and I think she dances a bit better too thought its still shuffleish, the mako!, team dextro is unstoppable, lots of customization for my character, lots of guns to collect, lots of armor to collect, vast inventory system, when I find loot with my mako I feel like I'm finding loot, nice sidequest with back stories, great conversations with the crew, the conversation wheel is at its best here.
My least fav ME2 they went for the cool, disrespected my fem crew and lead with sexy impractical armors and or clothing (Kasumi dress)options, the plot had nothing to do with continuing the good nearly written for it plot ME handed it, they did so little to gain knowledge in fighting the reapers 3 easily side stepped it, everything in this game was non important by 3 even arrival was written out, you knew just as much about stopping the reapers at the end of this game as you did in the begining of it, they killed shep meaninglessly and brought him/her back within a credit time, no character progression on sheps part encountering so many traumas it was amazing he/she could be so brick on it dying, being hacked, forced to work for the enemy, fem shep walks sits dances and runs like a man and worse, the list goes on and on! It's easier to ask me what I liked about this game and that was team dextro romances, arrival, overlord, and SB that's it.
I do however have some grievances with 3 so while I"m here min as well put them up: I've got a problem with because 2 was so irrelevant to the game 3 had to pick up all the slack for it shep was derpy at points, " What's the council going to do boss?" Anderson: " You moron! Haven't you spent 2 years learning that they're the only body that can amass the entire races? Nothing gets done on a galaxy scale without them pushing it onto everyone to do it!" , dues ex cataylist, all female cast again disrespected not only with selective armors and clothing (N7 dress) but now with face lifts, boob jobs, and in case of tali super hips!, Rannoch retconned and rushed, all romances (save Garrus + fshep) were rushed or dumped, fshep being trapped with all lez options if no import was made, no court hearing!, still not walking runing or dancing like a women or at least like she did back in ME, Tim being made into a mindless bot really he had potential and it got squandered, didn't explain the Lazarus Project save rehashing what we already knew, the senseless addition of control and synthesis endings. But despite my list I just stated I still like 3 just its my second favorite ME2 is down right horrible.
My least fav ME2 they went for the cool, disrespected my fem crew and lead with sexy impractical armors and or clothing (Kasumi dress)options, the plot had nothing to do with continuing the good nearly written for it plot ME handed it, they did so little to gain knowledge in fighting the reapers 3 easily side stepped it, everything in this game was non important by 3 even arrival was written out, you knew just as much about stopping the reapers at the end of this game as you did in the begining of it, they killed shep meaninglessly and brought him/her back within a credit time, no character progression on sheps part encountering so many traumas it was amazing he/she could be so brick on it dying, being hacked, forced to work for the enemy, fem shep walks sits dances and runs like a man and worse, the list goes on and on! It's easier to ask me what I liked about this game and that was team dextro romances, arrival, overlord, and SB that's it.
I do however have some grievances with 3 so while I"m here min as well put them up: I've got a problem with because 2 was so irrelevant to the game 3 had to pick up all the slack for it shep was derpy at points, " What's the council going to do boss?" Anderson: " You moron! Haven't you spent 2 years learning that they're the only body that can amass the entire races? Nothing gets done on a galaxy scale without them pushing it onto everyone to do it!" , dues ex cataylist, all female cast again disrespected not only with selective armors and clothing (N7 dress) but now with face lifts, boob jobs, and in case of tali super hips!, Rannoch retconned and rushed, all romances (save Garrus + fshep) were rushed or dumped, fshep being trapped with all lez options if no import was made, no court hearing!, still not walking runing or dancing like a women or at least like she did back in ME, Tim being made into a mindless bot really he had potential and it got squandered, didn't explain the Lazarus Project save rehashing what we already knew, the senseless addition of control and synthesis endings. But despite my list I just stated I still like 3 just its my second favorite ME2 is down right horrible.
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Posté 27 août 2013 - 09:14
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Favorite: ME2
The graphics were great, the gunplay was incredibly fun, and never got tiring, the characters were interesting, the missions were for the most part awesome, or at least memorable for one thing or another. The enemies were varied enough to be interesting, exploration was constantly rewarding. And looking back, the episodic format is just something really awesome. And lastly the entire thing just seemed really cohesive and consistent, making every aspect, even many flaws, seem perfect.
Next: ME1
The gameplay was a bore, and a complete chore. Having to keep upgrading my gear was annoying and something I rarely did. The enemies were either useless at shooting guns, or charging baindead bulls. The environments felt fake as well, something about the engine just turned me off. That said, it did have interesting characters, lore and plot. A similar situation happened to me in Dragon Age: Origins. It did have it's memorable moments, and the music did a good job of selling the atmosphere, especially while exploring space.
Least Favorite: ME3
Now on the surface, it seems like it had most of the stuff from ME2, but several minor things seem off, the graphics are the same, but they seem like they lack the same level of polish for the most part, the new loot system proved confusing, as upgrading was a hassle, and every time I got a new weapon, I never had enough time to get used to it before I got another one. The enemies, while varied, never really matched the tone of the story, such as Cerberus and the Reaper forces.
Another minor thing was the Normandy. The first game was functional, save for that stupid elevator, I loved the clean top-of-the-line feel of the second, and how everyone had their own room, but the last game went for a dark and cluttered feel, taking away several rooms, and their awesomeness.
Meanwhile the story failed to match the standards for the most part, set by the first two. I'll admit that Tuchanka and Rannoch were the highlights, though they still had many minor issues, other moments showed terminal stupidity, such as the Cerberus Coup, and all involved (looking at you Kaiden), many moments were disjointed, many missions felt like they lacked importance, the side missions, oh god they were awful. Again, in ME1 they were a chore, ME2 was perfect, you dropped down, killed a bunch of guys with a twist each time, and ME3 had those gawdawful fetch quests, that could have been so much more interesting. They took away the vehicle combat, which was perfectly functional in ME2. New Characters were boring, such as Vega, and many old Characters were misrepresented (Zaeed, Kasumi, Jacob, Miranda, so on and so forth).
All of this could have been mended, or minor stuff that still made it my least favorite game, but one I can accept, such as I have with ME1. But then there was that ending, and I shan't go into detail about that.
The graphics were great, the gunplay was incredibly fun, and never got tiring, the characters were interesting, the missions were for the most part awesome, or at least memorable for one thing or another. The enemies were varied enough to be interesting, exploration was constantly rewarding. And looking back, the episodic format is just something really awesome. And lastly the entire thing just seemed really cohesive and consistent, making every aspect, even many flaws, seem perfect.
Next: ME1
The gameplay was a bore, and a complete chore. Having to keep upgrading my gear was annoying and something I rarely did. The enemies were either useless at shooting guns, or charging baindead bulls. The environments felt fake as well, something about the engine just turned me off. That said, it did have interesting characters, lore and plot. A similar situation happened to me in Dragon Age: Origins. It did have it's memorable moments, and the music did a good job of selling the atmosphere, especially while exploring space.
Least Favorite: ME3
Now on the surface, it seems like it had most of the stuff from ME2, but several minor things seem off, the graphics are the same, but they seem like they lack the same level of polish for the most part, the new loot system proved confusing, as upgrading was a hassle, and every time I got a new weapon, I never had enough time to get used to it before I got another one. The enemies, while varied, never really matched the tone of the story, such as Cerberus and the Reaper forces.
Another minor thing was the Normandy. The first game was functional, save for that stupid elevator, I loved the clean top-of-the-line feel of the second, and how everyone had their own room, but the last game went for a dark and cluttered feel, taking away several rooms, and their awesomeness.
Meanwhile the story failed to match the standards for the most part, set by the first two. I'll admit that Tuchanka and Rannoch were the highlights, though they still had many minor issues, other moments showed terminal stupidity, such as the Cerberus Coup, and all involved (looking at you Kaiden), many moments were disjointed, many missions felt like they lacked importance, the side missions, oh god they were awful. Again, in ME1 they were a chore, ME2 was perfect, you dropped down, killed a bunch of guys with a twist each time, and ME3 had those gawdawful fetch quests, that could have been so much more interesting. They took away the vehicle combat, which was perfectly functional in ME2. New Characters were boring, such as Vega, and many old Characters were misrepresented (Zaeed, Kasumi, Jacob, Miranda, so on and so forth).
All of this could have been mended, or minor stuff that still made it my least favorite game, but one I can accept, such as I have with ME1. But then there was that ending, and I shan't go into detail about that.
#66
Posté 28 août 2013 - 01:51
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I have lots of high and low points for each game, but strictly in terms of replay count: best is ME2 (Suicide Mission and loyalty quests are awesome) and least is ME1 (really hated the inventory system and having to repeatedly scroll up and down to figure out what to sell.. and too much Mako.)
ME3 multiplayer isn't bad, when I'm able to connect. I've replayed it the least compared to the others but there are just some things on ME1 that I have to really be in the mood to play again from the start.
ME3 multiplayer isn't bad, when I'm able to connect. I've replayed it the least compared to the others but there are just some things on ME1 that I have to really be in the mood to play again from the start.
#67
Posté 28 août 2013 - 02:22
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Yannkee wrote...
1. ME2 (story ++ , characters +++, gameplay ++)
2. ME1 (story +++, characters +, gameplay +)
3. ME3 (story +, characters +, gameplay +++)
I like your rating system, so I'm going to steal it.
1. ME3 (story ++, characters ++, gampelay +++)
2. ME2 (story +, characters +++, gaemplay ++)
3. ME1 (story +++, characters +1/2, gameplay +)
/plagiarism
Personally, I can barely play ME anymore. The game feels very plain and tedious. ME2 is the funnest game of the series, and went in a great direction by introducing deeper characters. ME3 is my favorite, but of course it has its flaws. Regardless, I import a paragon or renegade character from ME1 and start on ME2 whenever I do a new playthrough.
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Posté 28 août 2013 - 09:37
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My number one favourite?
ME3.
Why? I have played the single player campaign over and over and over and it still doesnt bore me. For me, it also had the most touching moments, legion and the soul thing, mordins sacrifice, the goodbyes to all the squadmates and friends at the final battle, the slides of the people at the end ect. And finally getting all the races/species/whatever to actually get together and ignore their differences. The Citadel DLC really put the icing on the cake with just the humour it injected into the last few hours. Now, the ending. I'm probably not the biggest fan of it, I get what they were trying to achieve, but perhaps the execution of it wasn't that great. But I'm not going to let the last 10 minutes of the game ruin the 20+ hours I invested into the rest of it. Or the questionable romance decisions *cough* Vega *cough*. Also, multiplayer!
2nd - ME2.
This was the first game in the series I bought. And as such, quickly became addicted. This was great, you got to play on the "bad side" as such with Cerberus. It also really allowed you to experience how and what your enemy was like with the Collectors. Also, thank god no more Mako missions. But the trade off for that searching for minerals was't that much better. I actually dedicated a night to scanning every single planet so I wouldn't have to do it again for the rest of the game. The squadmates were great, scoring your own baby Krogan and mad scientist, and you got to use heavy weapons which I kind of missed in ME3.
3rd - ME1.
This was the last game I bought (wasn't available on PS3 at the start) and I had to get it just to see how everything played out in it after I read about everyone raving about it. It was great and probably had the most in depth story out of the 3 - sidequests as such and exploring the whole ME universe. But...on ps3, the controls are backwards. And that drove me crazy (don't actually know if you could change it, probably should have looked) and I died so many times because of that. Also so did my squadmates as I found them rather useless and used them mainly to draw out bad guys and be bullet magnets. And (in no fault due to the game) as I use a projector screen, I found a lot of the game was quite dark and difficult to see even with the brightness jacked all the way up.
In no way do I dislike any of them, I truly love them all, just some more than others.
ME3.
Why? I have played the single player campaign over and over and over and it still doesnt bore me. For me, it also had the most touching moments, legion and the soul thing, mordins sacrifice, the goodbyes to all the squadmates and friends at the final battle, the slides of the people at the end ect. And finally getting all the races/species/whatever to actually get together and ignore their differences. The Citadel DLC really put the icing on the cake with just the humour it injected into the last few hours. Now, the ending. I'm probably not the biggest fan of it, I get what they were trying to achieve, but perhaps the execution of it wasn't that great. But I'm not going to let the last 10 minutes of the game ruin the 20+ hours I invested into the rest of it. Or the questionable romance decisions *cough* Vega *cough*. Also, multiplayer!
2nd - ME2.
This was the first game in the series I bought. And as such, quickly became addicted. This was great, you got to play on the "bad side" as such with Cerberus. It also really allowed you to experience how and what your enemy was like with the Collectors. Also, thank god no more Mako missions. But the trade off for that searching for minerals was't that much better. I actually dedicated a night to scanning every single planet so I wouldn't have to do it again for the rest of the game. The squadmates were great, scoring your own baby Krogan and mad scientist, and you got to use heavy weapons which I kind of missed in ME3.
3rd - ME1.
This was the last game I bought (wasn't available on PS3 at the start) and I had to get it just to see how everything played out in it after I read about everyone raving about it. It was great and probably had the most in depth story out of the 3 - sidequests as such and exploring the whole ME universe. But...on ps3, the controls are backwards. And that drove me crazy (don't actually know if you could change it, probably should have looked) and I died so many times because of that. Also so did my squadmates as I found them rather useless and used them mainly to draw out bad guys and be bullet magnets. And (in no fault due to the game) as I use a projector screen, I found a lot of the game was quite dark and difficult to see even with the brightness jacked all the way up.
In no way do I dislike any of them, I truly love them all, just some more than others.
#69
Posté 28 août 2013 - 10:20
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Mass Effect 1 is still my all time favourite game. When that load screen comes up and the music starts...wow. I still get goose bumps.
Mass Effect 3 is my least favourite. Not because of the ending, but because the game itself felt more like a third person shooter with cut-scenes as opposed to an interactive narrative experience. By the time I'd gotten to Cerberus Base (point of no return) I had actually lost interest in the game.
I still enjoyed it more than a lot of other games out there - but the enjoyment was the same as I get from picking up a COD and nutting through the single player experience in 5 hours. I enjoy it, its fun, but it didn't leave a lasting impression.
Mass Effect 3 is my least favourite. Not because of the ending, but because the game itself felt more like a third person shooter with cut-scenes as opposed to an interactive narrative experience. By the time I'd gotten to Cerberus Base (point of no return) I had actually lost interest in the game.
I still enjoyed it more than a lot of other games out there - but the enjoyment was the same as I get from picking up a COD and nutting through the single player experience in 5 hours. I enjoy it, its fun, but it didn't leave a lasting impression.
#70
Posté 29 août 2013 - 12:14
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Best ME2: I was disappointed by the lack of customization/inventory options but I enjoyed exploring the seedy underbelly of the galaxy a "dirty dozen" of characters. I also really liked the decision-making on board the Collector base (who goes through the vent? and so on) and the overall story was the most satisfying to me. I feel it is the best written. I also liked the possibility of character conflicts which is something that might happen aboard a ship. They put a lot of effort into making the environments in the side missions more varied than ME1's same 3 warehouses. This is like the Empire Strikes Back of Mass Effect. As odd as it sounds, I really like how the game is lit- Omega's orange, the Citadel's neon, the Normandy's sterile white.
ME1: Good Introduction but the mechanics are hard to deal with and the inventory system is clunky and cumbersome. The story however is more than enough to make up for it. It is a great introduction to the universe. The exploration is fun for completionists but optional (I'm an obsessive completionist). The vehicles and minigames I think break up the monotony of 3rd person shooting.(many will disagree but ). I think I would like this one more if I hadn't started with ME2 (as a PS3 owner) and then gone back to ME1.
Least Favorite: ME3. the controls are the best of the 3. The customization and inventory is balanced between the clumsiness of ME1 and the near non-existence of ME2. But there are fundamental issues with the story; I think that the story is flawed way beyond the endings. Lack of exploration. Too many samey encounters of either Reaper ground forces or Cerberus- basically horde modes. Over and Over. No vehicles other than turrets (I hate turrets). No minigames until Citadel DLC. Too many badly-hidden fetch quests. A multiplayer mode which infects the single player through the N7 missions and the EMS system. Too much of the game is oddly lit; the Normandy command deck is lit like an opium den.
For the record of all of Bioware's games:
ME2
DA:O
ME1
KOTOR
ME3
SWTOR (from what little I've played)
DA2
I've only played 30 minutes of Jade Empire and never played Baldur's Gate.
ME1: Good Introduction but the mechanics are hard to deal with and the inventory system is clunky and cumbersome. The story however is more than enough to make up for it. It is a great introduction to the universe. The exploration is fun for completionists but optional (I'm an obsessive completionist). The vehicles and minigames I think break up the monotony of 3rd person shooting.(many will disagree but ). I think I would like this one more if I hadn't started with ME2 (as a PS3 owner) and then gone back to ME1.
Least Favorite: ME3. the controls are the best of the 3. The customization and inventory is balanced between the clumsiness of ME1 and the near non-existence of ME2. But there are fundamental issues with the story; I think that the story is flawed way beyond the endings. Lack of exploration. Too many samey encounters of either Reaper ground forces or Cerberus- basically horde modes. Over and Over. No vehicles other than turrets (I hate turrets). No minigames until Citadel DLC. Too many badly-hidden fetch quests. A multiplayer mode which infects the single player through the N7 missions and the EMS system. Too much of the game is oddly lit; the Normandy command deck is lit like an opium den.
For the record of all of Bioware's games:
ME2
DA:O
ME1
KOTOR
ME3
SWTOR (from what little I've played)
DA2
I've only played 30 minutes of Jade Empire and never played Baldur's Gate.
#71
Posté 29 août 2013 - 02:02
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I'm gonna put them on a rank list.
1. Mass Effect 2
2. Mass Effect 1
3. Mass Effect 3.
I liked ME2 because it hit a perfect balance between being RPG and action as well as having good side content vs. main story. Mass Effect 2 is gonna take at least 20 hours to beat if you're not doing a lot of side-content wheras my first run-through of ME1 was clocked at 18 hours and that included doing many side-activities in fact.
My top game time for each game is 32 hours for ME1 doing as many side-quests as I could find, ME2 was at 50 with all DLC and all side activity whereas with ME3 I've never gotten it over 38 hours including all DLC.
As for the content of each game, Mass Effect 2 has better design overall. The minigames are all decent the hub-area side-quests are fun and give you some interesting choices and in general the dialogue and writing quality was a huge step over ME1 imo.
That's where things started looking grim with ME3. First of all the game is too pathos focused, and I'm not easily blinded by emotional storytelling or it has to be done really well, like in TLOU, some departments of TWD or in ICO. This game was trying too hard and on top of that the animations had numerous bugs during cutscenes that made it feel unpolished, even more than previous entries in Mass Effect. Overall the plot was really dumb and I hated how Cerberus was degraded into an evil organisation because of indoctrination, and in general the game used "indoctrination" too conviniently as an excuse for people being out of character or "evil" like TIM and Udina.
Some dialogue was also really awkward and when it wasn't it was often too forcefully emotional. ME2 had corny lines too, but it never felt like they were trying to force a reaction out of me.
Also the player agency in ME3 sucked and the game felt way too streamlined. I for one missed elevator rides in ME1 where my crew got to chat with each other where it didn't feel like it was scripted but rather was an actual game mechanic, and I also loved the mini-games in ME2. None of that was in ME3. It was like a big rollercoaster ride but unfortunately I didn't expect to go to the amusement park so I didn't enjoy the ride.
Of course, the ending sucked, but I still appreciated parts of its concept, except for the big theme reveal. Mass Effect was never narrowmindedly focused on synthetics rivaling their creators and it felt like the game tried to make it seem like it. With a few major tweaks I could've liked the ending because currently I think the atmosphere and scenario is amazing, but the rest outright sucks, and it's just a narrative mess.
There you have it.
1. Mass Effect 2
2. Mass Effect 1
3. Mass Effect 3.
I liked ME2 because it hit a perfect balance between being RPG and action as well as having good side content vs. main story. Mass Effect 2 is gonna take at least 20 hours to beat if you're not doing a lot of side-content wheras my first run-through of ME1 was clocked at 18 hours and that included doing many side-activities in fact.
My top game time for each game is 32 hours for ME1 doing as many side-quests as I could find, ME2 was at 50 with all DLC and all side activity whereas with ME3 I've never gotten it over 38 hours including all DLC.
As for the content of each game, Mass Effect 2 has better design overall. The minigames are all decent the hub-area side-quests are fun and give you some interesting choices and in general the dialogue and writing quality was a huge step over ME1 imo.
That's where things started looking grim with ME3. First of all the game is too pathos focused, and I'm not easily blinded by emotional storytelling or it has to be done really well, like in TLOU, some departments of TWD or in ICO. This game was trying too hard and on top of that the animations had numerous bugs during cutscenes that made it feel unpolished, even more than previous entries in Mass Effect. Overall the plot was really dumb and I hated how Cerberus was degraded into an evil organisation because of indoctrination, and in general the game used "indoctrination" too conviniently as an excuse for people being out of character or "evil" like TIM and Udina.
Some dialogue was also really awkward and when it wasn't it was often too forcefully emotional. ME2 had corny lines too, but it never felt like they were trying to force a reaction out of me.
Also the player agency in ME3 sucked and the game felt way too streamlined. I for one missed elevator rides in ME1 where my crew got to chat with each other where it didn't feel like it was scripted but rather was an actual game mechanic, and I also loved the mini-games in ME2. None of that was in ME3. It was like a big rollercoaster ride but unfortunately I didn't expect to go to the amusement park so I didn't enjoy the ride.
Of course, the ending sucked, but I still appreciated parts of its concept, except for the big theme reveal. Mass Effect was never narrowmindedly focused on synthetics rivaling their creators and it felt like the game tried to make it seem like it. With a few major tweaks I could've liked the ending because currently I think the atmosphere and scenario is amazing, but the rest outright sucks, and it's just a narrative mess.
There you have it.
#72
Posté 30 août 2013 - 11:12
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naes1984 wrote...
For the record of all of Bioware's games:
ME2
DA:O
ME1
KOTOR
ME3
SWTOR (from what little I've played)
DA2
I've only played 30 minutes of Jade Empire and never played Baldur's Gate.
If I would have to rank all BioWare games it would be:
BG
BG2
ME1
KOTOR
DA:O
ME3
ME2
DA2
I haven't played Jade Empire or SWTOR.
I enjoyed BG, BG2, ME1, KOTOR. DA:O was okay.
ME3, ME2 and DA2 all horribly sucked.
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