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[Jerrybnsn]

Allow the gamers to assume control of their Warden or Hawke:  This shouldn't be a problem at all because it was done in DAO and DA2 when we took over Morrigan and Varric.  Morrigan's part was more detailed, complete with converstation options, so more like her scenario.   Do this for The Inquisition. This allows some time for answering questions, having meaningful interaction, gameplay, some (possibly) more decision making, and, most importantly, closure. This would settle the big issue of gamers being concerned that Bioware would take over their characters personalities.


Allow gamers to customize their warden and hawk: Why would this be a problem?  Gamers can't complain that Bioware ruined their Warden's or Hawke's looks. And why would they complain if we have to customize our warden or hawke again?  You can give them a differnt hair style, cooler armor, tatoos, better looking mustaches. I don't think I ever met someone who plays rpg video games and says, I hate it when we have to customize our characters.  

edit: revised edit:  If  you don't want the Warden and Hawke scenes at all, just skip it .  In the character creator, after you made your "Inquisitor", it can then ask: RECREATE YOUR HAWK AND WARDEN?.  Yes means yes.  NO means no.  And then there'll be no Warden or Hawke at all for those that chose that option.


Use the characters in a useful, important way.  No meaningless cameo. Having them stand around and ramble like Alistair or Zevern is lame.  What role could a level 23-28 character play in Inquisition?  Gee, I don't know?  How about using all that badassness and creating havoc through the enemy lines.  Remember the awe of playing Hawke in the prolouge where he was overpowered?  Well, imagine it the same with your Warden or Hawke somewhere in the middle of the game or towards the end, except it would be real.

No NPCs:  The main gripe that everyone seems to agree to, whether they want the return of their Warden/Hawke or not, is Bioware would ruin their character that they cherish.  So turning them into an NPC where Bioware will be giving them dialouge and acting independently from the gamer would be a big mistake as far as fan acceptance goes.

We should Have this because of the Need for real closure:  People have a strong connection with their characters and need more than passing mention about their ends.  In proportion, if a sibling, parent or spouse past away, would you be content with reading a blurp in your local obituary?  Or having some stranger mention that they are dead and how they died?  Heck, even having a breakup with your girl or boyfriend needs more than just a brief mention.This is the "Closure" that everyone is talking about. When people's relationships ends there is the process of closure that they need to go through.  At least those whose Wardens had died are correct that they received closure.  They had a pretty good eulogy given in their honor.

Modifié par Jerrybnsn, 16 août 2013 - 03:18 .

[Taleroth]

They already had their ends. DAO/Awakening and DAII were there ends. If you can say those weren't the end, then the only end that will suit you is death. And that's getting absurd.

Having three PCs is not going to happen. This isn't a spiritual successor to Icewind Dale.

Modifié par Taleroth, 14 août 2013 - 01:08 .

[franciscoamell]

The thing is DAO and DA2 didn't give the warden and hawke conclusive ends. DA2 ended saying they're both misteriously gone and seem like they're planning something. They don't need to reappear but their stories are NOT over.

[KiwiQuiche]

No. Gorramit, just leave those two out of it.

[ev76]

This is very doable op as you pointed out in your first sentence. If they did bring them back in the game I would want it as dlc! Or maybe how they treated the prison break in origins, that was a fun way of doing things. You get the choice of hawke or the warden or warden commander!

[Iron Fist]

BioWare's options
1. Consume further resources for an ultimately impossible desire to fulfill for a fraction of people
2. Provide simple/vague narration or text allowing open interpretation for everyone

[Taleroth]

franciscoamell wrote...

The thing is DAO and DA2 didn't give the warden and hawke conclusive ends. DA2 ended saying they're both misteriously gone and seem like they're planning something. They don't need to reappear but their stories are NOT over.

The only "conclusive" end is death. Teasing crap later doesn't undo that their stories already ended. Disappearing is like riding off into the sunset. They get to keep doing stuff, but you don't need to tell that story.

[Knight of Dane]

I think I'll still vote for not handling them at all.

[Jerrybnsn]

Taleroth wrote...

They already had their ends. DAO/Awakening and DAII were there ends. If you can say those weren't the end, then the only end that will suit you is death.

Had their ends?  I left my Warden with either a gift that was of great importance (that I have no idea what it was), and one where he accepts going into the Eluvian mirror in order to face the future threat with Morrigan.  Now Morrigan has returned in a major role for the Inquisition, and as was written in this up coming article, the Inquisition is mainly about Morrigan's story. Where's my Warden?

[Jerrybnsn]

Taleroth wrote...

Having three PCs is not going to happen.

And my suggestion is not that they are PCs.  Did you even read it?  They wouldn't be PCs anymore than Morrigan and Varric where PCs when you took control over their characters in game.

[Eterna]

Slap a helmet on them.

[KiwiQuiche]

Well, one of my dead Warden's came back alive enough to vanish, so controlling him during that would be interesting, I admit.

[Mike3207]

Taleroth wrote...

They already had their ends. DAO/Awakening and DAII were there ends. If you can say those weren't the end, then the only end that will suit you is death. And that's getting absurd.

Having three PCs is not going to happen. This isn't a spiritual successor to Icewind Dale.

They were thought to have disapeared. Not exactly a end.

[Heimdall]

Jerrybnsn wrote...

Taleroth wrote...

Having three PCs is not going to happen.

And my suggestion is not that they are PCs.  Did you even read it?  They wouldn't be PCs anymore than Morrigan and Varric where PCs when you took control over their characters in game.

That's a horrible idea

[Mello]

Eterna5 wrote...

Slap a helmet on them.

Cause a mage wears a helmet. 

[Jerrybnsn]

ev76 wrote...

Or maybe how they treated the prison break in origins, that was a fun way of doing things. You get the choice of hawke or the warden or warden commander!

Excellent example.  I forgot about that scenario because I mostly played breaking out on my own, which is pretty hiliarous in its own right.

[Eterna]

iPoohCupCakes wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Slap a helmet on them.

Cause a mage wears a helmet. 

Slap a hood or hat that hides their face. 

Modifié par Eterna5, 14 août 2013 - 01:35 .

[addiction21]

EntropicAngel wrote...

We don't need any of this. Dragon Age is not the story of Hawke. Dragon Age is not the story of the Warden.

That

Both have had their time in the spotlight. Let it go and move on.

[Avaflame]

Please, no. I might not be satisfied with this whole "disappeared" business, but I just can't imagine a way to involve them directly that I would like.

As for the whole "slap a helmet on" that everyone loves, MY Warden/Hawke would NEVER wear a helmet.

[Aaleel]

KiwiQuiche wrote...

No. Gorramit, just leave those two out of it.

Lol a browncoat I see.

But on topic, I love my Warden as much as anyone, but I agree leave them out of it.

Modifié par Aaleel, 14 août 2013 - 01:41 .

[KiwiQuiche]

addiction21 wrote...

EntropicAngel wrote...

We don't need any of this. Dragon Age is not the story of Hawke. Dragon Age is not the story of the Warden.

That

Both have had their time in the spotlight. Let it go and move on.

Yup, I'm with that.

Aaleel wrote...

KiwiQuiche wrote...

No. Gorramit, just leave those two out of it.

Lol a browncoat I see.

But on topic, I love my Warden as much as anyone, but I agree leave them out of it.

Can't take the sky from me. <3

Modifié par KiwiQuiche, 14 août 2013 - 01:44 .

[Jerrybnsn]

KiwiQuiche wrote...

Well, one of my dead Warden's came back alive enough to vanish, so controlling him during that would be interesting, I admit.

Good news.  Your dead Warden will stay dead.  The part will be played by Orleasian Warden, whom you can also customize.  Minus the meaningful interaction and need of closure, you'll get to enjoy their part just as much.

[Sylvianus]

well, I prefer when people are just saying, don't want to see them.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 14 août 2013 - 01:47 .