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[Striker93175]

stealth_202 wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

 It's not for weapons classes... It's a casters weapon. 

The Acolyte is much better weapon for casters.
The same AoE stagger, but 5x shield damage and 200% cooldown.
Why should I change it for heavy weight, low damage Venom?

The short answer is best explained visually.  

This (acolyte)



To this (venom)






EDIT: 

Also the ability to use this:


Instead of this:

Modifié par Striker93175, 14 août 2013 - 04:56 .

[Kalas747]

Venom >>> trollbait

[NuclearTech76]

The Venom can stunlock a mob or even a boss type enemy and it can proc a lot more incendiary on a target in a shorter window than the Acolyte can.

[ClydeInTheShell]

Missed this....

OP: the Venom is dope, as many have already said. Takes getting used to, but it is worth the effort.

[RainbowDazed]

Striker93175 wrote...

stealth_202 wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

 It's not for weapons classes... It's a casters weapon. 

The Acolyte is much better weapon for casters.
The same AoE stagger, but 5x shield damage and 200% cooldown.
Why should I change it for heavy weight, low damage Venom?

The short answer is best explained visually.  

That was very informative, thank you! 

[stealth_202]

Striker93175 wrote...
The short answer is best explained visually.  

I prefer numbers.

[lightswitch]

NuclearTech76 wrote...

Is this weapon just different on PC or is the master race too stupid to use it? It completely trivializes all humanoid size targets and cheeses the crap out of bosses with appropriate powers.

Trivializing mooks and exploiting incendiary glitches are not high on my list of things to do.

[flibber89-2]

A lot of people really like this gun OP and you might too.. It could take some time to L2Venom, but the gun isn't a skill weapon in terms of having to be a marksmen. Many people say it trivializes mooks, but every weapon in this game does that so this isn't really a pro... AoE and stagger is good.. it's a solid weapon, but I'm not a huge fan and would rate it as the falcon of shotguns.. good but not great.

[Chromatix]

NuclearTech76 wrote...

Cassandra Neptune wrote...

I mean, I tried to like it, but I just can't.

It just doesn't have enough mad deeps

It takes me approximately two second to make a Prime die. It's not the weapon, it's the user and the way they are using it.

Let me be the voice of Red-John:
We know how to use all weapons, and they should learn to use them too, when they learn that, they will realise that Venom is not special. It is not that on PC the weapon is different or we don't know how to use it, all the opposite, we know how to use every weapon and that's why we know venom is not special.

Modifié par Chromatix, 14 août 2013 - 05:44 .

[lightswitch]

NuclearTech76 wrote...

It takes me approximately two second to make a Prime die. It's not the weapon, it's the user and the way they are using it.

Indeed. If you're killing a Prime in two seconds, the Venom isn't doing most of the work. Or hardly any of it actually.

[Wizard of Ox]

It always lovely to see how much effort people put into trying to prove anything they don't like or don't understand to be thoroughly bad.

[NuclearTech76]

lightswitch wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

It takes me approximately two second to make a Prime die. It's not the weapon, it's the user and the way they are using it.

Indeed. If you're killing a Prime in two seconds, the Venom isn't doing most of the work. Or hardly any of it actually.

Possibly. Incinerate's doing some heavy ass lifting though.

[NuclearTech76]

Chromatix wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

Cassandra Neptune wrote...

I mean, I tried to like it, but I just can't.

It just doesn't have enough mad deeps

It takes me approximately two second to make a Prime die. It's not the weapon, it's the user and the way they are using it.

Let me be the voice of Red-John:
We know how to use all weapons, and they should learn to use them too, when they learn that, they will realise that Venom is not special. It is not that on PC the weapon is different or we don't know how to use it, all the opposite, we know how to use every weapon and that's why we know venom is not special.

Voice of red dong pls.

[Chromatix]

NuclearTech76 wrote...

lightswitch wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

It takes me approximately two second to make a Prime die. It's not the weapon, it's the user and the way they are using it.

Indeed. If you're killing a Prime in two seconds, the Venom isn't doing most of the work. Or hardly any of it actually.

Possibly. Incinerate's doing some heavy ass lifting though.

Any weapon can kill anything fast with Incinerate. 

[NuclearTech76]

lightswitch wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

Is this weapon just different on PC or is the master race too stupid to use it? It completely trivializes all humanoid size targets and cheeses the crap out of bosses with appropriate powers.

Trivializing mooks and exploiting incendiary glitches are not high on my list of things to do.

There are several exploits that are used in game by you and others. It's all relative to what you consider over the line and what you consider smart play. RHA, RCing, and so on all "exploits" in some people's eyes. This game is so damn buggy it would be hard to avoid "exploiting" routinely even if you tried. Hell we didn't even realise incinerate was having these interactions till relatively late in the game.

[NuclearTech76]

Chromatix wrote...
 Any weapon can kill anything fast with Incinerate. 

This guy.^^^

[Chromatix]

NuclearTech76 wrote...

Chromatix wrote...
 Any weapon can kill anything fast with Incinerate. 

This guy.^^^

And they're all faster than Venom.

But  they also can kill without it. 

Modifié par Chromatix, 14 août 2013 - 06:01 .

[NuclearTech76]

Chromatix wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

Chromatix wrote...
 Any weapon can kill anything fast with Incinerate. 

This guy.^^^

And they're all faster than Venom.

But  they also can kill without it. 

Care to revise that statement "all" where you only look moderately clueless instead of like a complete moron. :happy:

[Chromatix]

NuclearTech76 wrote...

Chromatix wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

Chromatix wrote...
 Any weapon can kill anything fast with Incinerate. 

This guy.^^^

And they're all faster than Venom.

But  they also can kill without it. 

Care to revise that statement "all" where you only look moderately clueless instead of like a complete moron. :happy:

There is actual weapons in this game and there is garbage. Why would i care if you can't tell one from another. 

Modifié par Chromatix, 14 août 2013 - 06:08 .

[lightswitch]

MasterReefa wrote...

Nuke quit wasting your time. This guy is just a bad troll.

ur right, Venom is the best mook killing weapon, these people who disagree are obviously trolls or stoopid

[NuclearTech76]

lightswitch wrote...

MasterReefa wrote...

Nuke quit wasting your time. This guy is just a bad troll.

ur right, Venom is the best mook killing weapon, these people who disagree are obviously trolls or stoopid

Name a better one that can deal with every humanoid enemy in the game on host or off in every situation and stunlock mobs.

Hell I even hear the thing can headshot.

Modifié par NuclearTech76, 14 août 2013 - 06:30 .

[Jaded4Chaos]

Beerfish wrote...

The venom sucks when the last creature on a wave, that being a banshee is up in the raised boxes on FBGhost and refuses to come down.

 Too funny

[Cyonan]

NuclearTech76 wrote...

lightswitch wrote...

MasterReefa wrote...

Nuke quit wasting your time. This guy is just a bad troll.

ur right, Venom is the best mook killing weapon, these people who disagree are obviously trolls or stoopid

Name a better one that can deal with every humanoid enemy in the game on host or off in every situation and stunlock mobs.

Hell I even hear the thing can headshot.

Does that include situations where the enemy is behind a chest high wall?

Also, Geth Plasma Shotgun.