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[Daybreak_Comet]

 So, let me just begin by saying that I just started and finished playing the Mass Effect series recently (past month-ish) and I am also a noob when it comes to forums and/or blogs. So if I am bringing up an old/dead topic that older fans are tired of talking about I am sorry and if I am somehow posting to the forums in a bad way or ignoring other posts that could answer my question I am also sorry, I just don't have much experience with forums as I said before.

With that out of the way, my question: has BioWare supported/refuted/ignored the whole Indoctrination Theory (IT)? I mean, after stumbling across IT my mind was BLOWN to say the least and I, personally, think there is a high likelyhood that this is a valid theory (and if not, its still an awesome concept). However, all the videos and articles I've been looking at are outdated (as I said I am new to the ME universe) so, I'd like to know if, since the release of ME3 and the Extended Cut have they ever said "yep you've all been indoctrinated ****es" or have they just not closed the case yet and are waiting for more people (like me) to get enveloped in the ME universe before spilling the beans? Or are they just going to wait until the mysterious ME4 is released (which is supposed to be more of a spinoff not a continuation no?) to further explain the infamous and sketchy ending of the ME series?

Modifié par Daybreak_Comet, 14 août 2013 - 04:07 .

[CronoDragoon]

Firstly, IT threads on the ME3 story forum now get locked in favor of discussing IT in IT groups on the forum.

But before that happens I'll try and answer your question:

BioWare has neither confirmed nor denied IT, but that isn't because they have something up their sleeve in the future. They just don't want to invalidate fan theories for no good reason.

However, based on the content of "Final Hours" and the EC, along with various comments from BW members ("Fans are certainly....er....dedicated") it's safe to assume that IT was not the intended interpretation of the endings.

Modifié par CronoDragoon, 14 août 2013 - 04:10 .

[AlexMBrennan]

Bioware has stopped work on ME3, which includes ME3 DLC. Contrary to videos putting forward "evidence" that "The TRUTH DLC" is just around the corner there will be no more DLC revealing IT.

, think there is a high likelyhood [sic] that this is a valid theory

And I think that there is a high likelihood that you would benefit from using a dictionary.

Regardless, the IT is as useful a hypothesis as the "You are living in a Matrix simulation right now" - you can't disprove it (which isn't the same thing as being supported by evidence but try explaining that to the idiots on youtube), but you'd be a fool to jump off a building like Neo.

Modifié par AlexMBrennan, 14 août 2013 - 04:18 .

[Daybreak_Comet]

Thanks for you're understanding! Where are these IT groups? I was trying to find them but I can't seem to navigate the groups page of the social.bioware website correctly...

It kind of sucks to hear that about the BioWare response, but, to me, doesn't make the theory any less captivating.

[ATiBotka]

Daybreak_Comet wrote...

there is a high likelyhood that this is a valid theory

No. Some desperate fans came up with the idea. They tried to deny the ending, yet they created an even more stupid ending.

I find funny that some people still believe IT. But they can believe anything they want, I don't care. Just don't try to convince me.

[AlanC9]

The Groups page is pretty horrible for finding groups if you don't know any of the members. I don't know what Bio's thinking with this site design.

[Daybreak_Comet]

Alex, I realize the theory has many holes but I just like it because of the idea. Anyways, it would have less holes than if the IT wasn't "real." As I said before I really don't care too much if its true or not, its just an awesome idea.

And sorry about the grammatical mistake, English isn't my first language, no need to be an **** about it.

[ATiBotka]

Daybreak_Comet wrote...

Where are these IT groups?

http://social.biowar.../&v=discussions

[AlanC9]

 Best bet is to Google up some of the old IT threads and check the believers' profiles for the groups.

You could also try friending Turbo_J, who's involved with an IT offshoot group that seems to be active now -- they're doing the "Choose Wisely" videos, which you can find on YouTube. Probably be able to point you in the right direction

Modifié par AlanC9, 14 août 2013 - 04:34 .

[Daybreak_Comet]

Thanks ATiBotka. And I agree about the desperate fans thing but I can't say I don't admire the fruit of that desperation.

Modifié par Daybreak_Comet, 14 août 2013 - 04:31 .

[QuarianAnalyst]

 Go to the CleverNoob forums, they are the forums of the guy that made the IT documentaries. They have lots of conversations about the IT, and can offer you just about anything you want to know about it.

[dorktainian]

or try the IT forums on the other site (see the IT group page) good luck.

[Fixers0]

I'm sorry but anything relating to the Indoctrination theory on the forums ist VERBOTEN!

[Hazegurl]

I agree OP, when I first played the game I loved the idea behind IT. It's very well thought out and I wouldn't have been disappointed if it was the truth. There are also documentaries on it on youtube. It explains everything with scenes and so forth.

[Brovikk Rasputin]

I'd advice you to ignore it because it makes no sense at all. The ending is good as it is, as long as you install the Extended Cut, so silly theories aren't really needed.

[Ruadh]

Actually read up on it before forming an opinion. Else you'll join the droolers and somehow think the literal endings make sense.

Strange how people say its just a fan theory when many came to same conclusion before the words IT were even muttered on these forums.

[AlexMBrennan]

Actually read up on it before forming an opinion. Else you'll join the droolers and somehow think the literal endings make sense.

Strawman. The opinion those critical of "IT" really hold is that it's more likely that the endings are what they are because the game was rushed and/or made by fallible humans than that it is a grand conspiracy

[dorktainian]

AlexMBrennan wrote...

Actually read up on it before forming an opinion. Else you'll join the droolers and somehow think the literal endings make sense.

Strawman. The opinion those critical of "IT" really hold is that it's more likely that the endings are what they are because the game was rushed and/or made by fallible humans than that it is a grand conspiracy

just open your mind.  yeah it could have been for that reason, but what if something else is going on here?  And to think Bioware actually encouraged speculation with the ending.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

dorktainian wrote...

AlexMBrennan wrote...

Actually read up on it before forming an opinion. Else you'll join the droolers and somehow think the literal endings make sense.

Strawman. The opinion those critical of "IT" really hold is that it's more likely that the endings are what they are because the game was rushed and/or made by fallible humans than that it is a grand conspiracy

just open your mind.  yeah it could have been for that reason, but what if something else is going on here?  And to think Bioware actually encouraged speculation with the ending.

I think we have had time enough to think. The endings were just the end result of inept writing and poor trilogy planning.

[Seboist]

Lizardviking wrote...

dorktainian wrote...

AlexMBrennan wrote...

Actually read up on it before forming an opinion. Else you'll join the droolers and somehow think the literal endings make sense.

Strawman. The opinion those critical of "IT" really hold is that it's more likely that the endings are what they are because the game was rushed and/or made by fallible humans than that it is a grand conspiracy

just open your mind.  yeah it could have been for that reason, but what if something else is going on here?  And to think Bioware actually encouraged speculation with the ending.

I think we have had time enough to think. The endings were just the end result of inept writing and poor trilogy planning.

+1

[Clayless]

As you can see OP, IT discussion isn't allowed here.

Though, just to mention because no IT'er will tell you and I want to stop you wasting your time: IT doesn't end the game. It means Harbinger is still there, sitting above Shepard, and the game hasn't ended. It replaces the endings by not ending them.

Bioware isn't going to "spill the beans", they're done with the endings and Shepard, they've stated that many times.

Modifié par Robosexual, 14 août 2013 - 09:59 .

[Hazegurl]

It's sad that certain topics can't be discussed on a forum cause people get so up in arms about it. It's not like it is the end of the world if people want to speculate the endings to a RPG game.

[Clayless]

Hazegurl wrote...

It's sad that certain topics can't be discussed on a forum cause people get so up in arms about it. It's not like it is the end of the world if people want to speculate the endings to a RPG game.

IT is so far from the endings that's it's effectively a completely different subject.

[AlexMBrennan]

It's their forum, therefore you need to follow their rules. It's really quite simple and not particularly sad that we can't discuss real world politics, or off topic material, or indeed IT.

[AlanC9]

And yet, here we are discussing IT.

I imagine Ninja Stan will nuke this one by 0500 GMT, though.