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[Vort3xX]

Vanished ? uh no, srsly Flemeth have them locked up somewhere for personal entertainment and so she can give birth to more witches of the wilds, makes sense to me.

Modifié par Vort3xX, 17 août 2013 - 09:03 .

[Versus Omnibus]

Vort3xX wrote...

Vanished ? uh no, srsly Flemeth have them locked up somewhere for personal entertainment and so she can give birth to more witches of the wilds, makes sense to me.

Eww... 

[Vort3xX]

Versus Omnibus wrote...

Vort3xX wrote...

Vanished ? uh no, srsly Flemeth have them locked up somewhere for personal entertainment and so she can give birth to more witches of the wilds, makes sense to me.

Eww... 

 Indeed, i thought so too 

[Versus Omnibus]

I have question to those who are okay with heroes disappearing after the main game: why exactly are you okay with them vanishing? Bioware has said they will contradict your headcanon, so why bothering making one knowing this?

[In Exile]

Versus Omnibus wrote...

I have question to those who are okay with heroes disappearing after the main game: why exactly are you okay with them vanishing? Bioware has said they will contradict your headcanon, so why bothering making one knowing this?

Because we get a few good years before Bioware runs roughshod over our character, and with any luck they just drop the plot thread in the sequel? 

[Versus Omnibus]

In Exile wrote...

Versus Omnibus wrote...

I have question to those who are okay with heroes disappearing after the main game: why exactly are you okay with them vanishing? Bioware has said they will contradict your headcanon, so why bothering making one knowing this?

Because we get a few good years before Bioware runs roughshod over our character, and with any luck they just drop the plot thread in the sequel? 

But what if they don't?

[Kommunicating]

 I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHERE MY BABIES WENT

 

[Versus Omnibus]

Kommunicating wrote...

 I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHERE MY BABIES WENT

 

Me too! And I don't want my new characters, the Inquistors, to suffer the same fate!! 

[OlgaStarcher]

crimzontearz wrote...

OlgaStarcher wrote...

My Warden disappeared with Morrigan and his child and has another 20 years left in him tops. Hawke most likely took up Isabella's offer to join her crew and took Anders along for the ride. 

I'm alright with that explanation, personally. I always viewed Dragon Age world as a setting for an epic, not a Bildungsroman. They each served their purpose in a larger narrative. 

Personally, I'd like to have some "closure" on multitude of questions raised by the last two games with regard to Darkspawn, Fade, and Old Gods.

soooo what is your suggestion for people who had their warden become king and all of a sudden in the next game  POOF a maybe dead Lelianna pops up and says he mysteriously vanished?

Your warden took off at the end of Awakening, if memory serves. 

[drake heath]

I'm actually fine with the Warden dying, I don't want a cameo just to ruin the Warden or something like that, just have him disappear or something, like what TES protagonists do.

As for Hawke? I don't really care, just say he died falling down the stairs or something, he wasn't what I would call a "hero" more like "tool" or "schmuck".

[macrocarl]

I don't mind them disappearing so long as it eventually gets revealed.... I sort of wonder if we'll find out more this go around since it looks like more mysterious Morrigan/ Flemmith machinations are afoot!

[Grog Muffins]

Am I the only one who thinks both the Warden and Hawke aren't done? I have always seen DAO and DA2 as just a chapter in their stories. A new chapter will follow, whether in this game or in games to come. Serisouly, does anyone think that Leliana saying their disappearances aren't a coincidence is there just to make you go DUN DUN DUUUUN and not to make you think you there's more to their stories than their rise to power?

Also, a lot of you are metagaming.

1. Witch Hunt was confirmed to be canon. So, if your Warden goes with Morrigan through the Eluvian, the only ones who know this are you, the player, and Ariane and Finn. Ariane and Finn most likely kept this a secret because one's a Dalish elf and one's a mage, people would think they killed the Warden or something and lock them up for the rest of their lives or execute them. So, as far as the rest of the world is concerned, the Warden went on a secret mission and never came back. That's why everyone says they disappeared. They're gone from Thedas being hubby-hubby with Morrigan and raising your kid but no one knows that. Now that Morrigan is back, do you really think the Warden will be far behind?

And if you didn't go through the Eluvian, Morrigan leaves you something that she says you'll find very interesting after giving you this speach about Flemeth being not truly human. We don't know what that was but clearly it must have been something that the Warden feels needs to be investigated thoroughly and most likely in secrecy. The Warden's story is not done at all at this point, there's more to come.

2. Hawke is being pursued by misinformed people. Whichever side you chose at the end of DA2, Hawke has a lot of explaining to do. Getting the hell out of Kirkwall is something they should have done (imo) a long time ago and maybe they're finally fed up with it. If you side with the mages, Hawke disappears almost immediately, which is quite understandable. If you side with the templars, how long will it be until the turmoil in the world and the chaos that Kirkwall is in be too much to handle?

Having said that, is it impossible for the Warden and Hawke to have gotten in contact with each other after the s*** hit the fan? Morrigan is back, so clearly she knows something's up in Thedas, which means that if the Warden went with her, they also know. Is it far-fetched for them to seek out the person who was at the start of a major conflict that might factor in whatever's wrong with the world?

[ConvictedFish]

Destiny_1989 wrote...

Am I the only one who thinks both the Warden and Hawke aren't done? I have always seen DAO and DA2 as just a chapter in their stories. A new chapter will follow, whether in this game or in games to come. Serisouly, does anyone think that Leliana saying their disappearances aren't a coincidence is there just to make you go DUN DUN DUUUUN and not to make you think you there's more to their stories than their rise to power?

Also, a lot of you are metagaming.

1. Witch Hunt was confirmed to be canon. So, if your Warden goes with Morrigan through the Eluvian, the only ones who know this are you, the player, and Ariane and Finn. Ariane and Finn most likely kept this a secret because one's a Dalish elf and one's a mage, people would think they killed the Warden or something and lock them up for the rest of their lives or execute them. So, as far as the rest of the world is concerned, the Warden went on a secret mission and never came back. That's why everyone says they disappeared. They're gone from Thedas being hubby-hubby with Morrigan and raising your kid but no one knows that. Now that Morrigan is back, do you really think the Warden will be far behind?

And if you didn't go through the Eluvian, Morrigan leaves you something that she says you'll find very interesting after giving you this speach about Flemeth being not truly human. We don't know what that was but clearly it must have been something that the Warden feels needs to be investigated thoroughly and most likely in secrecy. The Warden's story is not done at all at this point, there's more to come.

2. Hawke is being pursued by misinformed people. Whichever side you chose at the end of DA2, Hawke has a lot of explaining to do. Getting the hell out of Kirkwall is something they should have done (imo) a long time ago and maybe they're finally fed up with it. If you side with the mages, Hawke disappears almost immediately, which is quite understandable. If you side with the templars, how long will it be until the turmoil in the world and the chaos that Kirkwall is in be too much to handle?

Having said that, is it impossible for the Warden and Hawke to have gotten in contact with each other after the s*** hit the fan? Morrigan is back, so clearly she knows something's up in Thedas, which means that if the Warden went with her, they also know. Is it far-fetched for them to seek out the person who was at the start of a major conflict that might factor in whatever's wrong with the world?

Agree

[Spectre slayer]

They do need to tie up the loose ending they created with the ending of DA2 IF your warden is still alive due to vast number of possibilities that was possible like if you made the warden king or queen and then they disappear sometime around what act 2or3 lol don't remember, if you romanced Alistair his cameo talks as if she was alive and still in Fereldan.

If your warden went through the eluvian with Morrigan why did she leave him and where is her son and him at, if you were traveling with your paramour then why did you leave, if you went back to your orgin place or rebuild the wardens why did you just up and vanish suddenly with no explanation then make Leliana say both the warden and hawke vanished and it's not a coincidence.

Same goes for Hawke though they were supposed to clear it up with the expansion pack, the burden is on the to clarify it somehow for creating the situation in the first place, if they are mentioned then fine, if they appear somehow then fine, if they have a role in the plot fine but if not guess we'll never know.

[Angrywolves]

Warden and Hawke are done.
Heroes are usually killed, die of diseases or injuries, or create dynasties like Charles Martel and Charlemagne.
I suspect Gaider doesn't want dynasties so , rather than kill the heroes or let them die which might upset the fans they just disappear .
MacArthur said old soldiers never die they just fade away.
I expect the Inquisitor will also fade away when the time is right.

[cindercatz]

I absolute hate the idea that they'd just ride off into the sunset and disappear while the world's falling down around them, their families and loved ones are involved somewhere somehow, the country they led/ bled for/ earned their place in are in need of them again. It makes zero, absolutely zero sense. So there must be a story, and I hope DA:I includes that story. And I want to see them and speak to them or at least hear them speak in DA:I. If it doesn't happen on camera, it doesn't exist. Rumors have been demonstrated to be just that, rumors. I have no desire whatsoever to headcanon around scenarioes that make no sense for my characters. I designed them so that they'd continue to exist and be active in the world, and that's what I want to see them doing.

And it was the same with Revan and the Exile, Shepard's in a pile of rubble (both my Sheps will be). I do not enjoy that situation at all. I want to know (and preferably decide, though it's not required) what my characters are doing and where they are. When I play an import of a world I set up with my decisions, my PCs are designed and intended to be part of that world, and I want to see them brought forward with the rest of it. I could care less (I like the bastardized version of that phrase better ) about whether I get to choose dialogue or if they contradict what I might have wanted them to do, whatever, as long as they're consistent with who they were in my import save. I just want them to continue as NPCs mostly like any other, but with the variables I set in previous games.

Hopefully the Inquisitor will not disappear at the end, and we'll get to set an end state for them, or else they're just still the head of the Inquisition, whichever, and we'll also see them in future games whenever that end state comes up. BioWare shouldn't avoid past PCs. The disappearing hero schtick is a tired old trope I never liked in the first place.

[Spectre slayer]

http://m.imgur.com/zMG3NHR

I wouldn't be so sure that the story of either the warden or hawke are over yet.

[cindercatz]

Interesting. :-)

[In Exile]

Versus Omnibus wrote...

In Exile wrote...

Versus Omnibus wrote...

I have question to those who are okay with heroes disappearing after the main game: why exactly are you okay with them vanishing? Bioware has said they will contradict your headcanon, so why bothering making one knowing this?

Because we get a few good years before Bioware runs roughshod over our character, and with any luck they just drop the plot thread in the sequel? 

But what if they don't?

Then they break our characters like they did in DA:A, and some people like it and ohters don't. 

[Phoenix_Fyre]

I just hope none of them get the Revan treatment.........

[blod007]

I speculate that The Warden, Hawk and any Grey Wardens who "disappeared" have suffered the same fate as Maric. They are fuel.

(Dammit I've been wanting type that for ages.)

[Versus Omnibus]

Spectre slayer wrote...

http://m.imgur.com/zMG3NHR

I wouldn't be so sure that the story of either the warden or hawke are over yet.

Excellent find. I doubt it means anything, but a cool find nonetheless.

[Angrywolves]

A meaningless find.
Wishful Thinking.

[Thomas Andresen]

It seems to me that, if the world is falling apart, and important characters, like the Hero of Ferelden or Hawke, are disappearing when Thedas might need them the most, it makes for a much more "dun dun duuuh" feel. Can't say I'm not okay with that.

[l7986]

Everyone knows Hawke disappeared because he's busy sexxing up Merrill in some remote woodland location.