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[garrus and ashley squad]

 If you had a choice to choose which group to join to take on the reapers. Who would it be? (it is pre me3 cerberus). I'm not a fan of either and probably would of made my own group but thought I would ask you guys what you think.

Modifié par garrus and ashley squad, 16 août 2013 - 12:41 .

[LiL Reapur]

Ah the alliance, i don't want to be a slave to TIM

[Nashtalia]

obviously Cerberus will automatically be giving into Indoctrination

[P. Domi]

Alliance.

[NeroonWilliams]

The Alliance, on account of the fact that they seem to be willing to follow Shepard's lead.

[Dieb]

The Alliance, no question.

It is intellectually in no way advanced from any of our modern governments today, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing. I admit thought, that it's still much more of a "rather" than a "definitely".

Cerberus in its entirety is doomed to ultimately encourage pretty much anything I despise ideologically in people. My choice of words here is important, mind you. I'm considering ME2's and the EU's take on the organization here, since ME3's at least would be rather predictable.

Modifié par Baelrahn, 15 août 2013 - 11:17 .

[Wynterdust]

Alliance, at least you know what you're getting with them. Cerberus seem like a great idea at one point but then they'll go and do something incredibly stupid the next. They're too inconsistent. That being said, there are a few of Cerberus' ideas that I like but ultimately I would side with the Alliance.

Modifié par Wynterdust, 15 août 2013 - 11:17 .

[garrus and ashley squad]

NeroonWilliams wrote...

The Alliance, on account of the fact that they seem to be willing to follow Shepard's lead.

It took them a long time though.

[o Ventus]

Depends on the Cerberus. ME2+old comics Cerberus, yes. ME3+Foundation Cerberus, no.

[NeroonWilliams]

garrus and ashley squad wrote...

NeroonWilliams wrote...

The Alliance, on account of the fact that they seem to be willing to follow Shepard's lead.

It took them a long time though.

Eh, it just took everyone who gave orders to Hackett getting dead.

[garrus and ashley squad]

o Ventus wrote...

Depends on the Cerberus. ME2+old comics Cerberus, yes. ME3+Foundation Cerberus, no.

I'll give it the me2 cerberus to make it more fair.

[Nashtalia]

Cerberus only had a some-what tolerable action for the Lazarus Project, other than that there is no merits to Cerberus as a "whole"

since during The Collector abductions, The Alliance weren't doing anything helpful during this time-line and Cerberus ironically where the ones taking at least a somewhat helpful action against "this" [The Collector abductions]

Modifié par Nashtalia, 15 août 2013 - 11:26 .

[In Exile]

Well, I happen to think the key to a war is wasting untold amounts of resources on insane plans with no possible payoff, so obviously Cerberus.

... Do I get a bonus if I'm also for wide scale murder and torture for purely theoretical benefits?

[jtav]

The sad thing is I think Cerberus had a better plan on the face of it. Crucible screams "trap!"

[AlexMBrennan]

A couple of points...

Shepard is an Alliance soldier - if Shepard had wanted to found a third faction (magically being able to build warships than the rest of humanity combined by himself? ) rather than working with the Alliance, then he wouldn't have become a marine in the first place. It follows that your version is not possible.

Secondly, at one point did "terrorist" become a minor character flaw rather than an absolute deal breaker?

[Nashtalia]

despite the Council not heeding my early warnings about the impending Reaper invasion "early" would have to side with the Council [The Alliance], whilst holding my Spectre status

given Cerberus at this time-line are getting themselves into Reaper Tech, there-fore are "Indoctrinated"

Modifié par Nashtalia, 15 août 2013 - 11:42 .

[Andrew Lucas]

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[Br3admax]

The Alliance. Cerberus is cool and all, not really, but all of humanity>terrorist organization. They are not really powerful enough to do that much against the Reapers.

[Reorte]

The Alliance has massively bigger resources than Cerberus. Despite their rather unconvincing power gain for ME3 Cerberus still got blown to hell by the Alliance pretty easily once they found out where they were hiding.

Cerberus's motivations are also suspect in the extreme. Giving them any sort of power is most definitely not a good idea and it's not as if they've got all that much of benefit to bargain with for that power.

[MisterJB]

AlexMBrennan wrote...
Secondly, at one point did "terrorist" become a minor character flaw rather than an absolute deal breaker?

One man's terrorist is another's freedom figther. Not to mention that Cerberus doesn't even fit the term "terrorist" because they never used fear to achieve a political goal. They're an unsactioned black ops groups which means they're not that different from the STG or the Spectres; I'd hardly consider the Dalatrass to be inherently more trustworthy than The Illusive Man.

ME2 Cerberus all the way.

[Nashtalia]

Reorte wrote...

The Alliance has massively bigger resources than Cerberus. Despite their rather unconvincing power gain for ME3 Cerberus still got blown to hell by the Alliance pretty easily once they found out where they were hiding.

Cerberus's motivations are also suspect in the extreme. Giving them any sort of power is most definitely not a good idea and it's not as if they've got all that much of benefit to bargain with for that power.

^that and The Illusive Man just revealed what Cerberus's plan, when The Illusive Man just said something about *instead of fighting them, why not control them* something to that Effect , that just was the give away that "Indoctrination" was Cerberus's M.O.

[Br3admax]

MisterJB wrote...

AlexMBrennan wrote...
Secondly, at one point did "terrorist" become a minor character flaw rather than an absolute deal breaker?

One man's terrorist is another's freedom figther. Not to mention that Cerberus doesn't even fit the term "terrorist" because they never used fear to achieve a political goal. They're an unsactioned black ops groups which means they're not that different from the STG or the Spectres; I'd hardly consider the Dalatrass to be inherently more trustworthy than The Illusive Man.

ME2 Cerberus all the way.

The difference between a black ops group and a terriorist cell is government funding or approval.  

[teh DRUMPf!!]

I like the Cerberus manifesto and general goals, but those are all just words.

Again, my issue with them is getting results (or lack thereof). ME3 was actually better for them than 2, in that way.

Alliance is too bureaucratic (sp?) for me to love in general, but they let me do things as I wanted, so I'll go with them.

[Nashtalia]

the Only time i had agreed fully with The Illusive Man was in that decision to save The Collector base *shudders* at that moment i felt it was a rational decision against an upcoming invasion of the Reapers

i can vividly remember The Illusive Man doing the fist in front of his face impression and him saying to me: "this is it the frame-work, a plan against The Reapers" [something to that Effect]

Modifié par Nashtalia, 15 août 2013 - 11:54 .