Someone should make pro-cerberus sigs tbh
Cerberus or the alliance
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#228
Posté 16 août 2013 - 05:50
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David7204 wrote...
Finding a miracle solution would be contrived, stupid writing. Like the Crucible. It's off the table.
If I recall correctly, you stated that discovering a solution in the third game was necessary for the story's momentum.
What other unfounded solution would you come up with for the Reapers? What's your idea for a Crucible replacement?
And please, don't Goldblum them.
#229
Posté 16 août 2013 - 05:50
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The Alliance doesn't have the CB. And even if a miracle solution from the CB isn't a DEM, it's still a miracle solution. It's still mediocre writing at best.
#230
Posté 16 août 2013 - 05:51
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I have no idea what Goldbluming is.dreamgazer wrote...
David7204 wrote...
Finding a miracle solution would be contrived, stupid writing. Like the Crucible. It's off the table.
If I recall correctly, you stated that discovering a solution in the third game was necessary for the story's momentum.
What other unfounded solution would you come up with for the Reapers? What's your idea for a Crucible replacement?
And please, don't Goldblum them.
I don't know. I'd have to give it a hell of a lot of thought. I don't have a solution right now.
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#231
Posté 16 août 2013 - 05:52
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You at last understand ME.David7204 wrote...
The Alliance doesn't have the CB. And even if a miracle solution from the CB isn't a DEM, it's still a miracle solution. It's still mediocre writing at best.
Cerberus could cut a deal with the Alliance. They will work with them in exchange for..... *insert Cerberus arc of your choosing*
#232
Posté 16 août 2013 - 05:53
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David7204 wrote...
The Alliance doesn't have the CB. And even if a miracle solution from the CB isn't a DEM, it's still a miracle solution. It's still mediocre writing at best.
In that case anything that beats the Reapers in ME3 would be a miracle solution, considering how they were portrayed in the first game. What should have those poor writers done for it not to be mediocre?
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Posté 16 août 2013 - 05:53
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HiddenInWar wrote...
Someone should make pro-cerberus sigs tbh
Seb and Kaiser used to have some.
#234
Posté 16 août 2013 - 05:55
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Trying to delude yourself into thinking the series is mediocre so you can delude yourself into thinking you don't care about it and you hence aren't under BioWare's power won't work. You wouldn't be spending copious amounts of time here if you really believed any of that nonsense.
#235
Posté 16 août 2013 - 05:55
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That's simply not true at all.CynicalShep wrote...
David7204 wrote...
The Alliance doesn't have the CB. And even if a miracle solution from the CB isn't a DEM, it's still a miracle solution. It's still mediocre writing at best.
In that case anything that beats the Reapers in ME3 would be a miracle solution, considering how they were portrayed in the first game. What should have those poor writers done for it not to be mediocre?
I should mention that whatever nonconventional solution I would propose would exist alongside a conventional victory only available for a 'perfect' or near perfect playthrough of all three games. Which obviously complicates things significantly.
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#236
Posté 16 août 2013 - 05:56
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I can like something and still acknowledge that it is not exceptional writing.David7204 wrote...
Trying to delude yourself into thinking the series is mediocre so you can delude yourself into thinking you don't care about it and you hence aren't under BioWare's power won't work. You wouldn't be spending copious amounts of time here if you really believed any of that nonsense.
#237
Posté 16 août 2013 - 05:56
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EntropicAngel wrote...
HiddenInWar wrote...
Someone should make pro-cerberus sigs tbh
Seb and Kaiser used to have some.
I saw this in one of the old Cerberus Support threads.
#238
Posté 16 août 2013 - 06:00
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Well I found something to put in my sig...wolfhowwl wrote...
EntropicAngel wrote...
HiddenInWar wrote...
Someone should make pro-cerberus sigs tbh
Seb and Kaiser used to have some.
I saw this in one of the old Cerberus Support threads.
#239
Posté 16 août 2013 - 06:02
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That renegade interupt to Vendetta is a good example of this. "I'll stop them." "But..." "I'll stop them.(in the exact same tone. No difference.)"Steelcan wrote...
I can like something and still acknowledge that it is not exceptional writing.David7204 wrote...
Trying to delude yourself into thinking the series is mediocre so you can delude yourself into thinking you don't care about it and you hence aren't under BioWare's power won't work. You wouldn't be spending copious amounts of time here if you really believed any of that nonsense.
#241
Posté 16 août 2013 - 06:04
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Steelcan wrote...
I can like something and still acknowledge that it is not exceptional writing.
Star Wars fans have been doing it for decades.
#242
Posté 16 août 2013 - 06:05
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Steelcan wrote...
You at last understand ME.David7204 wrote...
The Alliance doesn't have the CB. And even if a miracle solution from the CB isn't a DEM, it's still a miracle solution. It's still mediocre writing at best.
Cerberus could cut a deal with the Alliance. They will work with them in exchange for..... *insert Cerberus arc of your choosing*
I don't think they would work with cerberus for the simple fact of not trusting them and a betrayal would more than likely happen at some point. Which is why it would be hard to set up any alliance with them. I as well would think cerberus would be up to something or have their own agenda in plan. Also I can see plenty of disagreements that lead to friction and eventually a war between the 2.
#243
Posté 16 août 2013 - 06:07
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When the end of civilization is looming a deal with devil is understandablegarrus and ashley squad wrote...
Steelcan wrote...
You at last understand ME.David7204 wrote...
The Alliance doesn't have the CB. And even if a miracle solution from the CB isn't a DEM, it's still a miracle solution. It's still mediocre writing at best.
Cerberus could cut a deal with the Alliance. They will work with them in exchange for..... *insert Cerberus arc of your choosing*
I don't think they would work with cerberus for the simple fact of not trusting them and a betrayal would more than likely happen at some point. Which is why it would be hard to set up any alliance with them. I as well would think cerberus would be up to something or have their own agenda in plan. Also I can see plenty of disagreements that lead to friction and eventually a war between the 2.
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Posté 16 août 2013 - 06:09
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Eh, I don't see the possibility of war being too big of a deterrent here. They wouldn't risk a petty squabble during a fight for survival.garrus and ashley squad wrote...
Steelcan wrote...
You at last understand ME.David7204 wrote...
The Alliance doesn't have the CB. And even if a miracle solution from the CB isn't a DEM, it's still a miracle solution. It's still mediocre writing at best.
Cerberus could cut a deal with the Alliance. They will work with them in exchange for..... *insert Cerberus arc of your choosing*
I don't think they would work with cerberus for the simple fact of not trusting them and a betrayal would more than likely happen at some point. Which is why it would be hard to set up any alliance with them. I as well would think cerberus would be up to something or have their own agenda in plan. Also I can see plenty of disagreements that lead to friction and eventually a war between the 2.
Edit: Damnit Steelcan:ph34r:
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#245
Posté 16 août 2013 - 06:10
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The Alliance is a bunch of idiots who won't listen. Cerberus is a bunch of idiots who are so radical, they'd sell their souls to achieve their goals(which they did eventually).
I'm going with the Quarian Flotilla or the Turian Hierarchy instead.
I'm going with the Quarian Flotilla or the Turian Hierarchy instead.
#246
Posté 16 août 2013 - 06:10
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garrus and ashley squad wrote...
Steelcan wrote...
You at last understand ME.David7204 wrote...
The Alliance doesn't have the CB. And even if a miracle solution from the CB isn't a DEM, it's still a miracle solution. It's still mediocre writing at best.
Cerberus could cut a deal with the Alliance. They will work with them in exchange for..... *insert Cerberus arc of your choosing*
I don't think they would work with cerberus for the simple fact of not trusting them and a betrayal would more than likely happen at some point. Which is why it would be hard to set up any alliance with them. I as well would think cerberus would be up to something or have their own agenda in plan. Also I can see plenty of disagreements that lead to friction and eventually a war between the 2.
If Cerberus wasn't indoctrinated, why would I have to worry about a betrayal? I'd be more worried about some alliance goon getting overzealous with his "we can't do that, it's inhumane/evil!"
It's not an ulterior agenda if I'm working towards it.
#247
Posté 16 août 2013 - 06:10
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The quarians are an airlock away from certain death and the Turians are no better than the AllianceNecanor wrote...
The Alliance is a bunch of idiots who won't listen. Cerberus is a bunch of idiots who are so radical, they'd sell their souls to achieve their goals(which they did eventually).
I'm going with the Quarian Flotilla or the Turian Hierarchy instead.
#248
Posté 16 août 2013 - 06:10
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Steelcan wrote...
When the end of civilization is looming a deal with devil is understandablegarrus and ashley squad wrote...
Steelcan wrote...
You at last understand ME.David7204 wrote...
The Alliance doesn't have the CB. And even if a miracle solution from the CB isn't a DEM, it's still a miracle solution. It's still mediocre writing at best.
Cerberus could cut a deal with the Alliance. They will work with them in exchange for..... *insert Cerberus arc of your choosing*
I don't think they would work with cerberus for the simple fact of not trusting them and a betrayal would more than likely happen at some point. Which is why it would be hard to set up any alliance with them. I as well would think cerberus would be up to something or have their own agenda in plan. Also I can see plenty of disagreements that lead to friction and eventually a war between the 2.
I guess, but what could cerberus offer them that the alliance doesn't already have. On the other hand cerberus could use the alliance for a lot which is why I can't see it happening.
#249
Posté 16 août 2013 - 06:11
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Necanor wrote...
The Alliance is a bunch of idiots who won't listen. Cerberus is a bunch of idiots who are so radical, they'd sell their souls to achieve their goals(which they did eventually).
I'm going with the Quarian Flotilla or the Turian Hierarchy instead.
Gosh, I just doing this over and over again. The Alliance are a 'bunch of idiots' for not building 50 bajillion dreadnoughts because Shepard says so? Is that about right?
#250
Posté 16 août 2013 - 06:11
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The Collector base, or at least bits of it, in addition to their own technology.garrus and ashley squad wrote...
I guess, but what could cerberus offer them that the alliance doesn't already have. On the other hand cerberus could use the alliance for a lot which is why I can't see it happening.
