Before we go further, is that passage sourced?You must not know the definition of authorized. It has clear implications that anyone who isn't crammed up the asari's ass can see.
Democracy fails when the government keeps secrets, because then the population has no influence on it. It's tragic, but not the fault of the populace.The Asari aren't the Turians, they are a direct democracy, thus they are at least partially responsible for the actions and decisions of their leaders.
Seboist wrote...
Made Nightwing wrote...
Allow me a few second whilst I school yo' ass. .
Saw a lot of Paragon wishful thinking blather but no "schooling".
I'm waiting...
Xilizhra wrote...
Before we go further, is that passage sourced?You must not know the definition of authorized. It has clear implications that anyone who isn't crammed up the asari's ass can see.
The citizens of the Third Reich were responsible as well as the individuals in power.Xilizhra wrote...
Democracy fails when the government keeps secrets, because then the population has no influence on it. It's tragic, but not the fault of the populace.The Asari aren't the Turians, they are a direct democracy, thus they are at least partially responsible for the actions and decisions of their leaders.
For that passage in particular. Also, anyone can edit the wiki. And again, it doesn't imply that she knew already anyway.Steelcan wrote...
Xilizhra wrote...
Before we go further, is that passage sourced?You must not know the definition of authorized. It has clear implications that anyone who isn't crammed up the asari's ass can see.
Sourced? The references include, Mass Effect: Revelations, a Youtube video about the asari done by gameinformer, and an interview with Gamespy.
Regardless the official wiki entry on the asari spells it out clearly.
Not only did most not have much idea of what was going on, the Third Reich was keeping much darker and noisier secrets than the matriarch clique concealing the beacon; I doubt anyone not intimately close to the project could possibly know, and hence could possibly protest.The citizens of the Third Reich were responsible as well as the individuals in power.
The "Silent Majority" as it were.
Modifié par Xilizhra, 18 août 2013 - 12:44 .
Modifié par Made Nightwing, 18 août 2013 - 12:49 .
I authorize you to say that I have light brown hair.Steelcan wrote...
In order for someone to be authorized to say something they must already know what it is.
I get that a lot.I know it's a weird day on the BSN when I find myself agreeing with Xilizhra.
Modifié par Xilizhra, 18 août 2013 - 12:48 .
Made Nightwing wrote...
Seboist wrote...
Made Nightwing wrote...
Allow me a few second whilst I school yo' ass. .
Saw a lot of Paragon wishful thinking blather but no "schooling".
I'm waiting...
Ah, you are using the 'can't be bothered coming back with an argument' defence. Yet where was my argument Paragon? I simply pointed out the course of action that capitalises on post-war goodwill amongst species, takes advantage of the general desire for more power sharing and eliminates the need for complicated conspiracies. Simple, efficient, minimum of fuss and less psychopathic than the alternatives. Since it was not a war amongst the species of the galaxy (like the wars between nations in human history), there will be no one looking for revenge, aside from the krogan, who can be easily pacified with a few new worlds and economic investment (the general tone of the ending indicates the krogan are going in a new direction). I fail to see anything Paragon about it. There's no paradise or Utopia, it's just people getting back to their everyday lives.
David7204 wrote...
The 'official wiki entry' is something that can be edited by anyone and has very little if any oversight.
Dodging the issueXilizhra wrote...
I authorize you to say that I have light brown hair.Steelcan wrote...
In order for someone to be authorized to say something they must already know what it is.
What, the issue that you're blatantly wrong?Steelcan wrote...
Dodging the issueXilizhra wrote...
I authorize you to say that I have light brown hair.Steelcan wrote...
In order for someone to be authorized to say something they must already know what it is.
MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...
Made Nightwing wrote...
Seboist wrote...
Made Nightwing wrote...
Allow me a few second whilst I school yo' ass. .
Saw a lot of Paragon wishful thinking blather but no "schooling".
I'm waiting...
Ah, you are using the 'can't be bothered coming back with an argument' defence. Yet where was my argument Paragon? I simply pointed out the course of action that capitalises on post-war goodwill amongst species, takes advantage of the general desire for more power sharing and eliminates the need for complicated conspiracies. Simple, efficient, minimum of fuss and less psychopathic than the alternatives. Since it was not a war amongst the species of the galaxy (like the wars between nations in human history), there will be no one looking for revenge, aside from the krogan, who can be easily pacified with a few new worlds and economic investment (the general tone of the ending indicates the krogan are going in a new direction). I fail to see anything Paragon about it. There's no paradise or Utopia, it's just people getting back to their everyday lives.
The problem is that you're definitely oversimplifying the issue here.
It's simple, but it's really not efficient. You're relying on idealism too much here. As far as psychopathic alternatives... again really it is a bit of opinion. You're leaving out the existing bitterness between the Krogan and the Salarians, the Quarians for their treatment over the years, possible resentment towards the Asari and their Prothean tech, the Batarians hating everybody...
You're going to need a strong measure of force to get people in line. Going back to our everyday lives is what the galaxy did after the Battle of the Citadel. It's what the galaxy did after Arrival. Granted, there is no longer a Reaper threat, but there's a lot of questions out there and a lot of bitterness over old wounds and new wounds?
I, in part, encourage some of it, especially the negativity and resentment that would grow towards the alliance and the Council over them doing little against the Reapers to start with.
The issue that you lack understanding of the word authorizeXilizhra wrote...
What, the issue that you're blatantly wrong?Steelcan wrote...
Dodging the issueXilizhra wrote...
I authorize you to say that I have light brown hair.Steelcan wrote...
In order for someone to be authorized to say something they must already know what it is.
Necanor wrote...
Let's just say, if the Asari wouldn't be such egomaniacs, the war could've been won much earlier...
Evidently not.The issue that you lack understanding of the word authorize
David7204 wrote...
Not at all. TV tropes has very serious oversight. Anyone who has an issue with what's written can have the issue examined and moderated very carefully.
In order for something to be authorized, the ability to do so must already exist. The atomic bomb wasn't authorized for use until it was built.Xilizhra wrote...
Evidently not.The issue that you lack understanding of the word authorize
Indeed, Tevos would have had to have been authorized after she was told... which implies nothing about the time gap between telling and authorization.Steelcan wrote...
In order for something to be authorized, the ability to do so must already exist. The atomic bomb wasn't authorized for use until it was built.Xilizhra wrote...
Evidently not.The issue that you lack understanding of the word authorize
Modifié par Ravensword, 18 août 2013 - 12:58 .
There's no double standard at all. Yes, the software is set up the same way. The difference is TV tropes has a community of very dedicated, through, and reasonable patrons who understand the issues. Wikis aren't going to have that.MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...
David7204 wrote...
Not at all. TV tropes has very serious oversight. Anyone who has an issue with what's written can have the issue examined and moderated very carefully.
As I recall, wiki's (even the ME one) work the same way. Don't make a double standard association.
"Tevos here is a top secret reseacrh cache we have hidden from the galxy for milennia and have used solely for our own benefits, now go tell Shepard about it"Xilizhra wrote...
Indeed, Tevos would have had to have been authorized after she was told... which implies nothing about the time gap between telling and authorization.Steelcan wrote...
In order for something to be authorized, the ability to do so must already exist. The atomic bomb wasn't authorized for use until it was built.Xilizhra wrote...
Evidently not.The issue that you lack understanding of the word authorize
Retour en haut