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[The Night Mammoth]

Steelcan wrote...

David7204 wrote...

You're wrong. That's not plot armor at all.

Plot armor is a character surviving certain-death situations in a contrived fashion by nothing more than 'luck' in story.

Plot armor is not 'Any character who can't be killed in a game where some characters can be killed.'

Baria Frontiers bombing.  She survives merely because she is lucky.

Except, she's not the only person to survive the bombing, and was in an area that wasn't damaged by the bomb. 

[David7204]

dreamgazer wrote...

Please explain to me how Joker, brittle bone disease and all, doesn't have plot armor.

Because he never faces certain-death circumstances and survives in a contrived fashion.

[Steelcan]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

She survives hazardous situations in which other characters are killed (the Baria Frontiers bombing) without so much as a scratch.

She does get visibly affected by the bombing. She becomes drenched in water when she shows up in Baria Frontiers to confront Vasir.

Dat dangerous H2O

[Steelcan]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

David7204 wrote...

You're wrong. That's not plot armor at all.

Plot armor is a character surviving certain-death situations in a contrived fashion by nothing more than 'luck' in story.

Plot armor is not 'Any character who can't be killed in a game where some characters can be killed.'

Baria Frontiers bombing.  She survives merely because she is lucky.

Except, she's not the only person to survive the bombing, and was in an area that wasn't damaged by the bomb. 

Random civilian #245 has plot armor too

[David7204]

Br3ad wrote...

David7204 wrote...

You're wrong. That's not plot armor at all.

Plot armor is a character surviving certain-death situations in a contrived fashion by nothing more than 'luck' in story.

Plot armor is not 'Any character who can't be killed in a game where some characters can be killed.'

How does plot armor not involve the plot at all?

It's a misleading name.

[Br3admax]

Plot armor is when writers prevent important characters in the plot from dying in situations where death is almost certain. ME2 is really the only game where no one on the squad had plot armor. Joker does not have plot armor because it is very possible to survive what he did.

[spirosz]

David7204 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Please explain to me how Joker, brittle bone disease and all, doesn't have plot armor.

Because he never faces certain-death circumstances and survives in a contrived fashion.

Flying the Normandy is a certain-death circumstance.  

[Steelcan]

David7204 wrote...

You've got not clue whatsoever how she survives.

Sure I do.  BioWare's raging boner for blue bimbos

[iOnlySignIn]

David7204 wrote...

You've got not clue whatsoever how she survives.

Life must be hard when you don't have an imagination.

[David7204]

Uh, no. You don't get to have an imagination when you're accusing someone of something. You have the assume the best of them. And assuming the best of Liara makes her survival perfectly reasonable.

Modifié par David7204, 19 août 2013 - 10:32 .

[KaiserShep]

I don't see what the big deal is. The DLC would be pretty short if Liara dies in the explosion. Who cares?

Modifié par KaiserShep, 19 août 2013 - 10:36 .

[SiniisteR]

spirosz wrote...

David7204 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Please explain to me how Joker, brittle bone disease and all, doesn't have plot armor.

Because he never faces certain-death circumstances and survives in a contrived fashion.

Flying the Normandy is a certain-death circumstance.  

While I wouldn't say he doesn't have plot armor, I do think that his is necessary, being the pilot of the ship that acts as all three games' "hub". 

[Steelcan]

David7204 wrote...

Uh, no. You don't get to have an imagination when you're accusing someone of something. You have the assume the best of them. And assuming the best of Liara makes her survival perfectly reasonable.

lol

[Br3admax]

She survives Cerberus taking over the Mars Archives simply by her Liaraness.

[AresKeith]

David7204 wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

David7204 wrote...

You're wrong. That's not plot armor at all.

Plot armor is a character surviving certain-death situations in a contrived fashion by nothing more than 'luck' in story.

Plot armor is not 'Any character who can't be killed in a game where some characters can be killed.'

How does plot armor not involve the plot at all?

It's a misleading name.

Or it's that you don't really know what your talking about

Your only doing this because you think it's a negative word, similar to cliche and others

[wolfhowwl]

Br3ad wrote...

Plot armor is when writers prevent important characters in the plot from dying in situations where death is almost certain. ME2 is really the only game where no one on the squad had plot armor. Joker does not have plot armor because it is very possible to survive what he did.

Miranda did.

[Br3admax]

wolfhowwl wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

Plot armor is when writers prevent important characters in the plot from dying in situations where death is almost certain. ME2 is really the only game where no one on the squad had plot armor. Joker does not have plot armor because it is very possible to survive what he did.

Miranda did.

Tell her to hold up the bubble. She'll die. 

[The Night Mammoth]

KaiserShep wrote...

I don't see what the big deal is. The DLC would be pretty short if Liara dies I the explosion. Who cares?

People who don't like Liara, but for some reason like talking about her.

[dreamgazer]

David7204 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Please explain to me how Joker, brittle bone disease and all, doesn't have plot armor.

Because he never faces certain-death circumstances and survives in a contrived fashion.

Uh-huh.

[KaiserShep]

Heaven forfend if a character doesn't please everyone.

I'm not sure if the Joker sequence in ME2 counts, because the plot can't continue unless he survives. 

Modifié par KaiserShep, 19 août 2013 - 10:37 .

[Steelcan]

Br3ad wrote...

wolfhowwl wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

Plot armor is when writers prevent important characters in the plot from dying in situations where death is almost certain. ME2 is really the only game where no one on the squad had plot armor. Joker does not have plot armor because it is very possible to survive what he did.

Miranda did.

Tell her to hold up the bubble. She'll die. 

Nope, one of the squaddies you bring will.

[Br3admax]

I didn't say that I don't like Liara. But she's Shepard badass except for when anyone actually needs her to be. She can't notice the mech walking around everywhere just because her research is so important. Really.

[billy the squid]

Br3ad wrote...

David7204 wrote...

You're wrong. That's not plot armor at all.

Plot armor is a character surviving certain-death situations in a contrived fashion by nothing more than 'luck' in story.

Plot armor is not 'Any character who can't be killed in a game where some characters can be killed.'

How does plot armor not involve the plot at all?

Because its devastating to his case, that's why. Br3ad how dare you ask such a normal question of our Heroic David, just take it on faith that David has a clue what he's talking about.

[Br3admax]

Steelcan wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

wolfhowwl wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

Plot armor is when writers prevent important characters in the plot from dying in situations where death is almost certain. ME2 is really the only game where no one on the squad had plot armor. Joker does not have plot armor because it is very possible to survive what he did.

Miranda did.

Tell her to hold up the bubble. She'll die. 

Nope, one of the squaddies you bring will.

Sorry I think it's the tubes, but she can definitly die if she isn't loyal. Every member of the squad including Shepard can die.