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David7204 wrote...

Javik is little more than a thug and a coward hopelessly dependent on his delusions. He gleefully advocates genocide, but has to hide his actions away in his little memory shard because he can't face what he did.


Shut up Davey.

You don't understand true heroism.

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Steelcan wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Javik is little more than a thug and a coward hopelessly dependent on his delusions. He gleefully advocates genocide, but has to hide his actions away in his little memory shard because he can't face what he did.

You just don't like him because he upset your waifu.

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If you assume that Prothean researchers didn't have access to (the equivalent of) written records, then their total ignorance of Prothean culture is fairly forgivable. Our understanding of, say, Harappan culture is probably much worse.

But ME3 generally seems to imply that there's a hell of a lot of Prothean stuff lying around, which is problematic.


That can be explained by remembering that every time a prothean ruin is discovered, you have to deal with the beauracratic and self serving policies of the colony, the colonies home goverment, the council, the various corporations stationed on that colony, and the people who originally discovered it, all vying for the exclusive right to own all information or signifigance that comes about from the prothean artifact.

When you have that many players all ducking it constantly in the courts, it becomes easy to see how much many of these sites could become completely locked in legal backlogs and off limit zones. Not to mention the hanar and their entire religious motive for preserving prothean items or sites and forbidding tampering or study of them. Which I think was even mentioned in ME1.

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In fact, Javik is quite a bit like the BSN.

Gleefully advocates genocide, killing, various other stupid and pointless actions.

But when he actually has to face them himself, he just breaks down, doesn't he? Breaks down to the point where he has to kill himself.

Modifié par David7204, 19 août 2013 - 11:22 .


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I think it wouldn't have made much sense if Liara had simply "stumbled" across the crucible plans. Using something like the SB ressources was probably necessary to make finding the plans at least somewhat believable.


Liara could have heard of some new important discovery of Prothean relic(s), studied them and learn that they point to something vital regarding the Reapers being on Mars. She goes there and finds the Crucible.

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Steelcan wrote...

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Br3ad wrote...

Geth are illegal. As a dutiful Council Spectre you must destroy them.


Working with terrorists is illegal. Will you pull the trigger?

I'm a SPECTRE, laws don't apply to me:bandit:


That's why they would have revoked your status if not for Anderson :police:

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David7204 wrote...

Javik is little more than a thug and a coward hopelessly dependent on his delusions. He gleefully advocates genocide, but has to hide his actions away in his little memory shard because he can't face what he did.


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David7204 wrote...

In fact, Javik is quite a bit like the BSN.

Gleefully advocates genocide, killing, various other stupid and pointless actions.

But when he actually has to face them himself, he just breaks down, doesn't he? Breaks down to the point where he has to kill himself.

Did you just tell us to kill ourselves? Are you implying that we are so evil that we should?

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No. I'm implying that many people on the forum are steeped in hypocrisy.

Like Javik. Perhaps that's why he's popular here?

Modifié par David7204, 19 août 2013 - 11:24 .


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David7204 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Being the "most right" in a group of people who think the world is flat isn't an accomplishment

It's absolutely an accomplishment. The people who realized the Earth was round were likely far smarter than almost anyone alive today. Not magically knowing everything in the universe is no fault at all. They did the best they could with the knowledge and evidence they had.

I am not talking about in history.  I am talking about modern day flate Earth supporters.  They exist.

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David7204 wrote...

No. I'm implying that many people on the forum are steeped in hypocrisy.

Like Javik. Perhaps that's why he's popular here?

Oh this is rich.

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The Night Mammoth wrote...


And you don't see how strange it is to want Liara to have a special and unique skill whilst decrying that she's already BioWare's pet? And you don't care that there's not a single character in the entire series which is like how you want Liara to be?

I'd like Liara to be more akin to Traynor honestly.  A  non-combatant with useful intel.

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David7204 wrote...

In fact, Javik is quite a bit like the BSN.

Gleefully advocates genocide, killing, various other stupid and pointless actions.

But when he actually has to face them himself, he just breaks down, doesn't he? Breaks down to the point where he has to kill himself.

OR, he breaks down after seeing everyone he ever cared about either succumbing to indoctrination or being blasted to bits.

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David7204 wrote...

In fact, Javik is quite a bit like the BSN.

Gleefully advocates genocide, killing, various other stupid and pointless actions.

But when he actually has to face them himself, he just breaks down, doesn't he? Breaks down to the point where he has to kill himself.


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David7204 wrote...

Javik is little more than a thug and a coward hopelessly dependent on his delusions. He gleefully advocates genocide, but has to hide his actions away in his little memory shard because he can't face what he did.


Wrong. The memory shard has nothing about what he did, but rather what happened to the Protheans. Javik straight up tells you what he did during the war. He doesn't hide any of it. 

Modifié par KaiserShep, 19 août 2013 - 11:28 .


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David7204 wrote...

No. I'm implying that many people on the forum are steeped in hypocrisy.

Like Javik. Perhaps that's why he's popular here?


Your just jealous that Javik is a better LI than the blueberry.

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David7204 wrote...

No. I'm implying that many people on the forum are steeped in hypocrisy.

Like Javik. Perhaps that's why he's popular here?


David, you relize that you self-create a lot of this perceived "hypocrisy" by misrepresenting people's positions, right? 

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Javik knew what happened to the Protheans. He discusses it. But he doesn't bring up the time where he killed his friends and allies until he touches the shard.

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Steelcan wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...


And you don't see how strange it is to want Liara to have a special and unique skill whilst decrying that she's already BioWare's pet? And you don't care that there's not a single character in the entire series which is like how you want Liara to be?

I'd like Liara to be more akin to Traynor honestly.  A  non-combatant with useful intel.

I don't see why she has to be a non-combatant, but sure, I'd like her to have more useful intel.

Unfortunately, they decided to throw Traynor a bone.

Modifié par The Night Mammoth, 19 août 2013 - 11:30 .


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KaiserShep wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Javik is little more than a thug and a coward hopelessly dependent on his delusions. He gleefully advocates genocide, but has to hide his actions away in his little memory shard because he can't face what he did.


Wrong. The memory shard has nothing about what he did, but rather what happened to the Protheans. 

Really, Kaiser, out of all the wrong things said on this page, that is the one you picked? 

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dreamgazer wrote...

Whoa, whoa, whoa. I think we're overlooking the most intriguing bit of info to come out of this topic: there was an "edit war" on TVTropes about Liara.

I mean, seriously.


And I thought Cupcake "Wars" had destroyed all meaning of the word.

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Steelcan wrote...

David7204 wrote...

In fact, Javik is quite a bit like the BSN.

Gleefully advocates genocide, killing, various other stupid and pointless actions.

But when he actually has to face them himself, he just breaks down, doesn't he? Breaks down to the point where he has to kill himself.

OR, he breaks down after seeing everyone he ever cared about either succumbing to indoctrination or being blasted to bits.

Which would be perfectly fine if he didn't continually advocate pointless and senseless killing himself.

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Br3ad wrote...

KaiserShep wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Javik is little more than a thug and a coward hopelessly dependent on his delusions. He gleefully advocates genocide, but has to hide his actions away in his little memory shard because he can't face what he did.


Wrong. The memory shard has nothing about what he did, but rather what happened to the Protheans. 

Really, Kaiser, out of all the wrong things said on this page, that is the one you picked? 


I'm on my phone so I don't feel like addressing a lot lol 

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The Night Mammoth wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...


And you don't see how strange it is to want Liara to have a special and unique skill whilst decrying that she's already BioWare's pet? And you don't care that there's not a single character in the entire series which is like how you want Liara to be?

I'd like Liara to be more akin to Traynor honestly.  A  non-combatant with useful intel.

I don't see why she has to be a non-combatant, but sure, I'd like her to have more useful intel.

Unfortunately, they decided to throw Traynor a bone to do it. 

Last I checked, aracheaologist, is not a pre-requistie for soldiering.

(Indiana Jones is the sole exception obviously)

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dreamgazer wrote...

David7204 wrote...

No. I'm implying that many people on the forum are steeped in hypocrisy.

Like Javik. Perhaps that's why he's popular here?


David, you relize that you self-create a lot of this perceived "hypocrisy" by misrepresenting people's positions, right? 

Quite the opposite, dreamgazer. People continually misrepresent mine.