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[andar91]

I just thought of something else regarding friendly fire.

At this point, we've been told that health does not regenerate after an encounter ends. I think that this will likely have a big effect on how the team approaches friendly fire. If damage is more permanent than it used to be, it's gonna mean a lot more if you accidentally hit some allies with your fireball.

Edit:
@Filament: We know they protect archers from the GI article.

Modifié par andar91, 17 août 2013 - 11:56 .

[Reznore57]

They're probably looking into ME3 multiplayer , which was quite good IMHO.
Shield ennemies pushed you toward rogue type ennemies who can do massive damages.

Wonder if Crowd control will play a big role ...not my favorite thing ,but it does require strategy.

[fchopin]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

I don't see how having a shield makes any difference if you have a team that can strike from behind while another person stands in front.

If you can't see, does that mean you imagined all the possibilities?

Your assumption seems to be that, since there's a party, it's 4 on 1. What if the fight was 4 on 4? Imagine it was 4 shield guys! (which would be silly and lame, IMO)

That would depend on what powers the team of 4 consisted of but my way of fighting is always get the most danger's enemy first and leave the slowest for last, so if the one with the big shield is slow will probably get him last as he would be defenceless alone.

Maybe I can not see all the possibilities, don't know.

[Allan Schumacher]

That just means we need to come up with a reason to make sure you can't just always default leave him to last. Or rather, that it may not always be the best decision.

[Cainhurst Crow]

Allan Schumacher wrote...

That just means we need to come up with a reason to make sure you can't just always default leave him to last. Or rather, that it may not always be the best decision.

If you'd like this one posters opinion, giving him a spear to use in combat could make him quite a threat to deal with. Perhaps giving them a charge ability as well to bumrush the players if they don't keep them under pressure.

Modifié par Darth Brotarian, 18 août 2013 - 12:13 .

[delete_guest]

Gotta say I really like what I saw. If the strategy part of combat is basically peeling away defenses like with the harpoon bit, then that works for me.
Although I enjoyed DAO I hated that combat so much. DA2's animation and button-mashy combat (on xbox) I enjoyed far more.
Also really hope DAI's PC version at least allows for the option to use a gamepad and play it like the console version. When I moved to PC, DA2's keyboard combat bummed me out.

[filetemo]

please, do not make us defeat shield enemies by rolling, thats been done to death.
And please do not make shielded enemies come alone, tower shields are most useful in formation. Going alone, a shield like this is more of a hindrance than an advantage

[packardbell]

 The Witcher 2 had horrible consolzied combat, it was my main complaint for the game.

[Sylvianus]

packardbell wrote...

 The Witcher 2 had horrible consolzied combat, it was my main complaint for the game.

+100 friendship.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 18 août 2013 - 12:33 .

[Tarek]

witcher 2 combat was nice but it needed to be more ... strategic, slow, and paced..... they said they were gonna make it "slower" in W3 as in more fun and interesting than simply button mashing

I hope the same thing for DA:I an interesting and rewarding combat system

[Fallstar]

Don't make the shields too big. Is the ability to dodge like the PC in the trailer does controlled manually or is it automatic like evasion from Origins? I'm fine with either, although I would quite like it to be manual. Beyond that, I don't think I've really seen enough to comment.

Oh yeah, the spell effect thing (was mentioned that you'd take heavy damage if you tried to throw your hook at a lightning focussed mage) could you please make sure that spells combining or affecting the environment is used semi-regularly? It felt too rare in Origins, and when the opportunity did pop up, it kind of felt like it was being put in because a dev suddenly remembered about it. Would be nice for it to feel like a more natural part of the game.

[Frozenkex]

EntropicAngel wrote...

The Witcher 2 combat is twitch.

Nothing wrong with twitch as a concept--the game in my sig (with the pathetic number of supporters) is an "action RPG" and Final Fantasy at that. But I don't like the thought of it for Dragon Age unless it were some type of...spin-off title.

I think the word "twitch" is overused by some posters including you. What does it even mean, where u draw the line what is twitch and what is not. I think it would be more appropriate to name specifics "I dont like this X thing cuz its too fast" .

[andar91]

Frozenkex wrote...

EntropicAngel wrote...

The Witcher 2 combat is twitch.

Nothing wrong with twitch as a concept--the game in my sig (with the pathetic number of supporters) is an "action RPG" and Final Fantasy at that. But I don't like the thought of it for Dragon Age unless it were some type of...spin-off title.

I think the word "twitch" is overused by some posters including you. What does it even mean, where u draw the line what is twitch and what is not. I think it would be more appropriate to name specifics "I dont like this X thing cuz its too fast" .

I think most people mean that the results of what happens in the game occur because of the player's reactions rather than the character in the game (from an ability or something). It's about the separation of player and character. I think.

[packardbell]

EntropicAngel wrote...

The Witcher 2 combat is twitch.

Nothing wrong with twitch as a concept--the game in my sig (with the pathetic number of supporters) is an "action RPG" and Final Fantasy at that. But I don't like the thought of it for Dragon Age unless it were some type of...spin-off title.

If you consider rolling around, perodically popping aard, and chipping away at enemeis health 'twitch'. 

[Sylvianus]

Just a question. Is trying to avoid being hit " twitch ", ( or taking advantage of the ennemy's position, flanking, etc ) even in a party based combat ?

[Allan Schumacher]

I think I just had a happy. Though hate is a bit strong--did I say that (unless you're referring to a certain madman)?

You may not have used the word hate. I actually kind find the post anymore haha. In any case, you weren't a fan.

[In Exile]

Sylvianus wrote...

Just a question. Is trying to avoid being hit " twitch ", ( or taking advantage of the ennemy's position, flanking, etc ) even in a party based combat ?

It's twitch to the extent that it requires a split second reaction from the player to get a favourable result.

DA2 had a few twitch moments in boss battles. 

[andar91]

Sylvianus wrote...

Just a question. Is trying to avoid being hit " twitch ", ( or taking advantage of the ennemy's position, flanking, etc ) even in a party based combat ?

See, that's where I get caught up too. There are a lot of people complaigning about positioning being twitch (or at least it seems like it to me), when positioning and stuff is incredibly tactical.

Other people seem to think that tactical means solely relying on the tactics menu (so the AI does everything for you).

Other people seem to think that if the camera can zoom out, that's automatically tactical.

Some people think tactics equals glacial slowness.

Personally, I disagree with all of that. It's not easy to define, but I would loosely define tactical as combat that requires you to THINK in some capacity instead of just going in and hitting buttons haphazardly. Even action games can be tactical in their own way (to varying degrees).

[AresKeith]

I wonder if they're gonna show the team gameplay and rogue's in another video this month

Modifié par AresKeith, 18 août 2013 - 01:24 .

[devSin]

Sylvianus wrote...

Just a question. Is trying to avoid being hit " twitch ", ( or taking advantage of the ennemy's position, flanking, etc ) even in a party based combat ?

Where does the avoidance come from? Is it based on some rule (dexterity, talent, etc.), or is it just pressing the move button to get the character to run out of the line of fire?

If it's the latter, it's twitch. DA2 had some legitimate twitch elements, but it was still fundamentally rules-based combat. I hope that Inquisition continues to be the same, but I greatly suspect it won't be.

Modifié par devSin, 18 août 2013 - 01:02 .

[Fallstar]

AresKeith wrote...

I wonder if they're gonna show the team gameplay and rouge's in another video this month

Whenever someone calls it rouge, a kitten dies.

[Sylvianus]

Ok thanks folks. Otherwise, I knew I didn't dream, DA2 had already some " twich elements ", which I thought was a good thing by the way, and so for me It was already something we could get in DA.

@ Andar : I agree that positioning is incredibly tactical.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 18 août 2013 - 01:13 .