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Is everybody okay with the DA:I animations we've seen so far?


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EntropicAngel wrote...

The fans "freaking out" is what got Ashley armor in ME3 as opposed to simply her "tinfoil skirt and thigh-high boots."


I'm very curious about that.

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Pre-alpha is more of a planning stage. One plans features pre-alpha and at best writes test units for them. In the alpha stage things get realized and actually tested to see if they work out. In the alpha stage features can be added and changed. That's what that stage is for. The beta version is meant to get a stable version that can actually be released at some point. In that phase the chance of big changes are slim.


Prealpha, at least for BioWare (and myself), means "before feature complete." In other words, if we're still adding new features to the game (barring sneaky feature creep which is actually frowned upon in a lot of cases), and not just focusing on refining/iterating on those features, we haven't hit alpha yet. The bulk of the game's development time can be categorized as "pre-alpha."  And by this definition, we are most definitely pre-alpha.

Once content is locked down and all work becomes polish/bug fixing, then we're in beta.


In all honesty though, I dislike the terms since they aren't concrete and mean slightly different things to different people. The link provided shows one of the concepts of "Pre-alpha" is nightly builds (in the flow chart). It also places an arbitrary distinction on when testing happens, which is a notion I find antiquated. I'm "testing" before we even have a working build, I'm just testing for different things.

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simfamSP wrote...

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The horse animation was weightless & awkward.


Seriously, who notices this stuff?! xD

It's like half the bloody BSN is from Rohan.


We have a thread dedicated to the vile deviants known as bronies in off topic.... the taint is spreading!

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MevenSelas wrote...

I'm very curious about that.


It's kind of a joke--in the first Mass Effect game Ashley Williams is talking to Shepard and she says, "if you want to get me in a tinfoil skirt and thigh high boots you'll have to take me out to dinner first." Plainly put, she's a soldier--wasn't shown in sensual attire at all. Then ME3 came around and she was wearing this:

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The fans, one of them being myself, caterwauled and all of a sudden the next time she was in big bulky armor.


billy the squid wrote...

We have a thread dedicated to the vile deviants known as bronies in off topic.... the taint is spreading!


Whatever, you're probably a clopper in cahoots with Recon. It is known.

Modifié par EntropicAngel, 17 août 2013 - 07:53 .


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I think they look fine. There's plenty of time for improvement, and I'm more excited for the story, exploration, customisation and all that good stuff.

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billy the squid wrote...

simfamSP wrote...

Darth Death wrote...

The horse animation was weightless & awkward.


Seriously, who notices this stuff?! xD

It's like half the bloody BSN is from Rohan.


We have a thread dedicated to the vile deviants known as bronies in off topic.... the taint is spreading!

The goddess Apple Jack demands your soul.:devil:

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EntropicAngel wrote...

It's kind of a joke--in the first Mass Effect game Ashley Williams is talking to Shepard and she says, "if you want to get me in a tinfoil skirt and thigh high boots you'll have to take me out to dinner first." Plainly put, she's a soldier--wasn't shown in sensual attire at all. Then ME3 came around and she was wearing this:

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The fans, one of them being myself, caterwauled and all of a sudden the next time she was in big bulky armor.


I see nothing wrong with this. She's fully clothed and showing virtually no cleavage. I guess I'm just a sexist pig. :?

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I see nothing wrong with this. She's fully clothed and showing virtually no cleavage. I guess I'm just a sexist pig. :?


It isn't Ashley, that was the whole point of our argument. it doesn't fit her character (you'd probably have to play ME1 to see what I mean).

And no you're not a sexist pig. As an outfit it's acceptable, certainly better than others I've seen in the last five games. just didn't fit her.

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No, but the game is still over a year away, so I expect that they will substantially improve by the release day.

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EntropicAngel wrote...

MevenSelas wrote...

I see nothing wrong with this. She's fully clothed and showing virtually no cleavage. I guess I'm just a sexist pig. :?


It isn't Ashley, that was the whole point of our argument. it doesn't fit her character (you'd probably have to play ME1 to see what I mean).

And no you're not a sexist pig. As an outfit it's acceptable, certainly better than others I've seen in the last five games. just didn't fit her.


Fair enough.

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EntropicAngel wrote...
It isn't Ashley, that was the whole point of our argument. it doesn't fit her character (you'd probably have to play ME1 to see what I mean).

Says who?

In ME1 her "outfit" was generic armor, except on the Normandy where it was generic Alliance uniform. What's so "Ashley" about that?

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EntropicAngel wrote...

billy the squid wrote...

We have a thread dedicated to the vile deviants known as bronies in off topic.... the taint is spreading!


Whatever, you're probably a clopper in cahoots with Recon. It is known.


I will turn your deviant thread into ash, vile clopper!

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Plaintiff wrote...

EntropicAngel wrote...
It isn't Ashley, that was the whole point of our argument. it doesn't fit her character (you'd probably have to play ME1 to see what I mean).

Says who?

In ME1 her "outfit" was generic armor, except on the Normandy where it was generic Alliance uniform. What's so "Ashley" about that?


Why couldn't she be in the alliance regs short sleve jacket shirt and camo pants with boots again?

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Plaintiff wrote...

Says who?

In ME1 her "outfit" was generic armor, except on the Normandy where it was generic Alliance uniform. What's so "Ashley" about that?


How about her comment about a sensual outfit--there's a reason that quote is used.

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I will turn your deviant thread into ash, vile clopper!

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Come and try. COME AND TRY.

(I'd love to keep trash talking but i don't want to derail.)

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The only thing that struck me as odd was the fact that the warrior used to demonstrate the sword swinging in the video  was dragging his feet as he walked. Almost looked like he was skating across the floor, and the dust trail didn't help in that regard. Hopefully the movement is improved.

The sword swinging looked good to me, though.

Modifié par sandalisthemaker, 17 août 2013 - 08:21 .


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EntropicAngel wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Says who?

In ME1 her "outfit" was generic armor, except on the Normandy where it was generic Alliance uniform. What's so "Ashley" about that?


How about her comment about a sensual outfit--there's a reason that quote is used.

That's what passes for 'sensual'? Is her vagina on her neck?

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Darth Brotarian wrote...

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EntropicAngel wrote...
It isn't Ashley, that was the whole point of our argument. it doesn't fit her character (you'd probably have to play ME1 to see what I mean).

Says who?

In ME1 her "outfit" was generic armor, except on the Normandy where it was generic Alliance uniform. What's so "Ashley" about that?


Why couldn't she be in the alliance regs short sleve jacket shirt and camo pants with boots again?

No reason. Why does she have to be?

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Plaintiff wrote...

EntropicAngel wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

Says who?

In ME1 her "outfit" was generic armor, except on the Normandy where it was generic Alliance uniform. What's so "Ashley" about that?


How about her comment about a sensual outfit--there's a reason that quote is used.

That's what passes for 'sensual'? Is her vagina on her neck?


I know you're gay Plaintiff so I wouldn't expect you to understand the attraction of boobs and a plunging neckline.

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sandalisthemaker wrote...

The only thing that struck me as odd was the fact that the warrior used to demonstrate the sword swinging in the video  was dragging his feet as he walked. Almost looked like he was skating across the floor, and the dust trail didn't help in that regard. Hopefully the movement is improved.

The sword swinging looked good to me, though.


I agree--the skating was bad, hopefully they fix that.

Plaintiff wrote...

That's what passes for 'sensual'? Is her vagina on her neck?


Oh stop, you know it is. Stop being silly.

The curves, Plaintiff. The curves.


Regardless, that's immaterial. My point was, we changed things by complaining. So saying we shouldn't complain and we should "wait for the finished version" is dumb.

Modifié par EntropicAngel, 17 août 2013 - 08:32 .


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I actually remember if you romance Ashley in ME1 and Miranda in ME2 then Ashley actually says that she goes into battle with armor and not catsuits like Miranda and I was like pot meet kettle.

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sandalisthemaker wrote...

The only thing that struck me as odd was the fact that the warrior used to demonstrate the sword swinging in the video  was dragging his feet as he walked. Almost looked like he was skating across the floor, and the dust trail didn't help in that regard. Hopefully the movement is improved.

The sword swinging looked good to me, though.


There´s still a split second after each swing when he just stands still, then takes another swing, and so on. It was the same in Origins, but with longer dead time. IMHO they should replace that by something similar to Gothic´s 2H mastery, the animation showed the hero compensating for momentum before swinging to the other side, and even using it when you did the full attack sequence.

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It was stated that they wanted to "sex" her up a bit. I hated it.

But anyway, we should get back to DA:I.

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billy the squid wrote...

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Says who?

In ME1 her "outfit" was generic armor, except on the Normandy where it was generic Alliance uniform. What's so "Ashley" about that?


How about her comment about a sensual outfit--there's a reason that quote is used.

That's what passes for 'sensual'? Is her vagina on her neck?


I know you're gay Plaintiff so I wouldn't expect you to understand the attraction of boobs and a plunging neckline.

I understand perfectly well the purpose behind clothes that show off sexual characteristics. Gays do it too.

In the real world, most women's clothing displays the general shape of the female body. What more would Ashley have to be wearing in order to be considered not sensual?

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Plaintiff wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

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EntropicAngel wrote...
It isn't Ashley, that was the whole point of our argument. it doesn't fit her character (you'd probably have to play ME1 to see what I mean).

Says who?

In ME1 her "outfit" was generic armor, except on the Normandy where it was generic Alliance uniform. What's so "Ashley" about that?


Why couldn't she be in the alliance regs short sleve jacket shirt and camo pants with boots again?

No reason. Why does she have to be?


Because it makes more sense for the woman who said she doesn't like the idea of skirts as a uniform, to not wear a skirt as her uniform in mass effect 3, than it does for her to wear it?

Modifié par Darth Brotarian, 17 août 2013 - 08:37 .


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Darth Brotarian wrote...

Because it makes more sense for the woman who said she doesn't like the idea of skirts as a uniform, to not wear a skirt as her uniform in mass effect 3, than it does for her to wear it?

It's a long coat, and she's wearing pants underneath it.

I wouldn't know Ashley's opinion on skirts because I nuked her ass rather than put up with being hit on, but it seems to me that, as I am not the creator of the character, I am no authority on what she would or would not wear.