Annomander wrote...
Jaun Shepard wrote...
In my experience all infiltrators have better dps than the destroyer though not that much is this true?
The turian / quarian soldiers have theoretically the best burst dps in the game.... they NEVER reach this however without butchering their TTK, rendering this high burst dps completely pointless, as it takes longer to use debuff + MM than it does to just kill the enemy with weapon + MM.
The GI has the best burst dps.
Followed by the destroyer.
Then... everyone else.
Infiltrators have good spike damage, in reality however, the total dps they can put out (excepting the GI) is not greater than the destroyers.
How are you getting all this? Maybe you're actually talking about TTKs against the largest bosses?
A quick rundown of some kits weapon damage modifiers (using full auto weapons so RoF bonuses can be multiplied in; no racial bonuses; debuffs as specified; full equipment, consumables, mods):
GI (with PM debuff, HM rank 6 specced for damage, firing from cloak): 4.002
Destroyer: 2.84
TSol (
without PM debuff, with Marksman active and specced for RoF in rank 4): 3.11
QSol (
without TS debuff, MM active, RoF spec): 3
Human Infiltrator (firing from cloak,
with CB debuff applied, without a sniper rifle): 3.46
Drell Infiltrator (from cloak,
without debuff): 2.825
TGI (from cloak, with an AR, WITHOUT stims active): 3.36 note: TGI TC AR bonus
is multiplicative, right? not reallly sure tbh
TGI (from cloak, with AR, with damage specced stims active): 3.61
AIU (from cloak, with a shotgun,
without debuff): 3.44
AIU (from cloak, with shotgun, with debuff, with melee weapon damage bonus active): 4.125
Vanilla Human Solder (ARush specced damage active): 2.675
MQI (from cloak, with SR and TC rank 6 SR bonus, with TS debuff): 4.63
apologies if I got anything wrong, on my lunch break and I don't have time to double check anything.
First thing you'll notice is that there's a ton of things which affect damage modifiers a lot. The biggest one on the list, the MQI, will have to cast Tac Scan to get that which will affect his TTKs considerably, and requires a sniper rifle which doesn't really have the sustained DPS to match the automatic weapons. It's important to note that the GIs damage modifier with a Geth sniper rifle like the Javelin is completely different.
On the other hand, the Destroyer is no where close to the top of the list - in fact the highest damage modifier he can get under his own power is relatively low. For comparison, a Turian Havoc with no additive weapon damage buffs and Cryo Blast applied has a 2.5 damage modifier for 86% of the damage output of the Destroyer, which is not that huge of a difference. According to my calculations a TSent with warp applied and Warp IV ammo will pace or out-DPS a Destroyer versus armor and barriers.
It's worth noting that percent damage difference here isn't as big as those numbers make it seem. If you subtract the Destroyers modifier from the GIs, you get a difference of 116.2% damage. Of course, the actual percentage of damage the Destroyer compared to the GI is dishing out is actually 71%. QMS is doing 75% of the GIs damage. However both of those kits can sustain their damage output considerably longer than the GIs 2.5 sec of TC boost.
Of course all this is just theory, I haven't run any in game tests on TTKs, so if you're getting results that don't match expectations I'd be interested in hearing about it. I'm also somewhat curious if ammo power damage takes advantage of double and triple hit bugs.
Honestly though, IMO if you put all the numbers above aside, the Destroyer has three significant advantages that no other weapons platform has: an always-on weapon buff (no time is ever wasted casting); a really excellent AoE damage power; and really good stagger resistance. It's also really hard to quantify the DPS gains from the magazine upgrades, the accuracy bonus, the stagger resistance, and how you never have to waste any time casting powers. Personally I still rate him as one of the best kits in the game.
Modifié par lightswitch, 17 août 2013 - 05:53 .
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and it seems you can't deal with it baby.
I still advocate for 6/6/6/4/4 for the Destroyer if you're using a shotgun grenader build. Otherwise, HMLs screen shake makes it a detriment and should be skipped.
