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Should Mass Effect Become A MMO at some point?


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No, because MMOs always fail, and ruin an IP in the process.

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No. MMOs are evil and rubbish. I was so depressed when despite all my faith in Bioware they made the KOTOR a MMO and essentially killed the series.



Single player RPGs will alwys be able to tell the best stories, MMOs will always be lacking in not only the graphics department but also the story telling aspect and the ahole count

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why woudl they compete with them selves? it woudl be pure profit..just as NC-soft did with city of heros and city of villians and the many other games they cranked out. they dont compete they embrace and offer packaged deals on monthly fee. if youg et them all you pay one price. If anything It would eb a great benafit to Gamers.


Talk about a bad example.  I'd rather have a single polished experience like Blizzards WoW, then have multiple unpolished mediocre games like NCsoft.

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No. MMOs are evil and rubbish. I was so depressed when despite all my faith in Bioware they made the KOTOR a MMO and essentially killed the series.

Single player RPGs will alwys be able to tell the best stories, MMOs will always be lacking in not only the graphics department but also the story telling aspect and the ahole count


Gill Kaiser wrote...

No, because MMOs always fail, and ruin an IP in the process.


You're going to have to hold your tongue until TOR is released.

Modifié par Crawling_Chaos, 18 janvier 2010 - 10:50 .


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No.

Mass Effect is a game that tells a story. MMOs are usually glorified chat rooms.

MMOs are liek that now but Bioware aims to fix that with SWTOR and if sucessful It will change how MMOs are made with deep rich storys for indavigual players.

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As a general concept, I think the ME universe lends itself very well to an MMO.

Being how I'd never pay a monthly fee to play any game, I'd miss ME....  (kind of like I'll miss the Old Republic).

Modifié par Br0th3rGr1mm, 18 janvier 2010 - 10:54 .


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Crawling_Chaos wrote...

King Killoth wrote...

why woudl they compete with them selves? it woudl be pure profit..just as NC-soft did with city of heros and city of villians and the many other games they cranked out. they dont compete they embrace and offer packaged deals on monthly fee. if youg et them all you pay one price. If anything It would eb a great benafit to Gamers.


Talk about a bad example.  I'd rather have a single polished experience like Blizzards WoW, then have multiple unpolished mediocre games like NCsoft.

Im not saying anythign about the games themselves jsut that they ahve multible MMO games and do not compete. It can work and yes even for a little wail Bilizzard was working on a Starcraft MMO but it was cancaled befor development was started.

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King Killoth wrote...

Skalman91 wrote...

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Obviously, what Bioware needs is to make 3 MMO's to compete with eachother. DA, ME, and SWTOR.

"But what if TOR is a flop?"

If a game based on one of the most popular IP's in the world AND is made by Bioware and ends being a flop, do you think one based on a Bioware IP would do any better?

If TOR is a flop than clearly they would not make another MMO but what if it is a huge success and kills WOW. would it than be a smart move to try and incorprate ME or even DA into the MMO format.


No, that would never be smart, I would loose all hope for bioware and continue to hope for the rest of my life that every single bioware employee and all their families and everyone they know would die the most horrible death imaginable.

That's how bad MMOs are.

and what is so bad about MMOs. pelase enlighten me. If they make it with a compellign story and a deep open univurs full of explorationa nd adventure than what is the down side.


I could write a book about it and still not be able to explain everything that's bad about it. I've had this conversation so many times before, I just don't have the energy to get into it again.

So in short: Every single thing about it.

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Skalman91 wrote...

King Killoth wrote...


and what is so bad about MMOs. pelase enlighten me. If they make it with a compellign story and a deep open univurs full of explorationa nd adventure than what is the down side.


I could write a book about it and still not be able to explain everything that's bad about it. I've had this conversation so many times before, I just don't have the energy to get into it again.

So in short: Every single thing about it.


Sounds like someone had an account hacked.

Modifié par mobius160, 18 janvier 2010 - 10:57 .


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muse108 wrote...

No. MMOs are evil and rubbish. I was so depressed when despite all my faith in Bioware they made the KOTOR a MMO and essentially killed the series.

Single player RPGs will alwys be able to tell the best stories, MMOs will always be lacking in not only the graphics department but also the story telling aspect and the ahole count

Than go and look at the SWTOR page and tell me that it ahs no story and crappy graphics Cuse to me they look increadable altho a bit cartoonish but thatw as for the stylized realisum that they are working for.

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Although the Mass Effect trilogy is shepards story, the unverse is too rich to be left alone...that being said


The mass effect universe should stay a single player game and in the future MAYBE allow other players to play combat parts of the game as one of the squad members....but do nothing else, just combat.


It would be stupid to stop making Mass Effect games after shepards story, I think Bioware will make more games in the same universe and they should stay single player.

Modifié par Emperor Mars, 18 janvier 2010 - 10:56 .


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it's funny that most mmo-haters sound like disgruntled children who secretly got their ass handed to them in MMOs and ragequit, now pretending they always hated it because MMOs are nothing more than "glorified chatrooms". Good times!

But seriously: The ME-Universe would be terrific as an MMO-Backdrop. ME will end after Part 3 and it would be perfect if we could continue playing in that Universe. But that's not gonna happen for a very long time, Bioware won't cannibalize their own products and will push TOR instead. Unfortunatly the Star Wars Universe is far less interesting than the Mass Effect Universe. Pity.

Modifié par Ingrimm22, 18 janvier 2010 - 10:59 .


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People you need to learn how to remove quotation boxes so they don't grow to ridiculous sizes.

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Skalman91 wrote...

King Killoth wrote...

Skalman91 wrote...

King Killoth wrote...

Crawling_Chaos wrote...

Obviously, what Bioware needs is to make 3 MMO's to compete with eachother. DA, ME, and SWTOR.

"But what if TOR is a flop?"

If a game based on one of the most popular IP's in the world AND is made by Bioware and ends being a flop, do you think one based on a Bioware IP would do any better?

If TOR is a flop than clearly they would not make another MMO but what if it is a huge success and kills WOW. would it than be a smart move to try and incorprate ME or even DA into the MMO format.


No, that would never be smart, I would loose all hope for bioware and continue to hope for the rest of my life that every single bioware employee and all their families and everyone they know would die the most horrible death imaginable.

That's how bad MMOs are.

and what is so bad about MMOs. pelase enlighten me. If they make it with a compellign story and a deep open univurs full of explorationa nd adventure than what is the down side.


I could write a book about it and still not be able to explain everything that's bad about it. I've had this conversation so many times before, I just don't have the energy to get into it again.

So in short: Every single thing about it.


see I dont think its the games you hate but the players in it. you are like so amny others who get so angery over the "noob" issue. when the game is perfectly fine its out side things that upset you. Any yes I fear that with a ME MMO there would be tons of Shepard clones running aroudn but at the same time youg e the real players who take tiem to amke their own PC and develop their own personal story. and that is where true gameing lays.

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No. I don't like MMO's.

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TOR will be like every other MMO released, it may have more story (thats not hard) it may have more speech, but it will still have poor graphics, and to be honest, what I've seen of combat looks extremely clunky and a step back from today's tech. I have yet to see an MMO that even peaks my interests, and I was a huge fan of KOTOR.

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I'd love a Mass Effect mmo, but I can fully understand people not wanting it.



It'd mean there would be thousands upon thousands of Spectres, which'd be pretty awkward. And while you can let people make certain big decisions like letting the council die or whatever, you can't let the stories of everyone have too much differences, as it'd mean you'd need to have... Well... A LOT of missions and different instances.



On a technical level, unlike what people are saying in this topic, it is entirely possible. Just imagine a universe we can travel in like EvE online, with 10,000+ planets (there're systems that create random, but persisting planets). And the biotic powers really wouldn't be that hard to implement.



It would be the most amazing mmo ever, for me personally.



And Bioware is currently in the process of proving that an mmo can be fully voiced.

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Ingrimm22 wrote...

it's funny that most mmo-haters sound like disgruntled nerdragers who secretly got their ass handed to them in MMOs and ragequit, now pretending they always hated it because MMOs are nothing more than "glorified chatrooms". Good laugh!

Agreed

so far no one ahs made a valid point agenst MMOs other than the players in them.

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Hell NO!

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Haaaayyyyyyeeeelll naw

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Mr. Gerbz wrote...

I'd love a Mass Effect mmo, but I can fully understand people not wanting it.

It'd mean there would be thousands upon thousands of Spectres, which'd be pretty awkward. And while you can let people make certain big decisions like letting the council die or whatever, you can't let the stories of everyone have too much differences, as it'd mean you'd need to have... Well... A LOT of missions and different instances.

On a technical level, unlike what people are saying in this topic, it is entirely possible. Just imagine a universe we can travel in like EvE online, with 10,000+ planets (there're systems that create random, but persisting planets). And the biotic powers really wouldn't be that hard to implement.

It would be the most amazing mmo ever, for me personally.

And Bioware is currently in the process of proving that an mmo can be fully voiced.

thats why you ahve a spectar seletion by the game devs or moderators. you would be picked to be a spectre not chose to be one. the univers has so many other perfesions like merc scientist and marine. you could even be a cop for c-sec. you could eb a corprate spy or an assassin or soemthing spectres are the elite and very rare I would liek to keep it that way.

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Ingrimm22 wrote...

it's funny that most mmo-haters sound like disgruntled children who secretly got their ass handed to them in MMOs and ragequit, now pretending they always hated it because MMOs are nothing more than "glorified chatrooms". Good times!


I play MMORPGs, and it's a cess pool of stupidity and almost butchers all established storyline and canon for the sake of gameplay. For example, people who stand in fire and wonder why they die.

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Dave of Canada wrote...

Ingrimm22 wrote...

it's funny that most mmo-haters sound like disgruntled children who secretly got their ass handed to them in MMOs and ragequit, now pretending they always hated it because MMOs are nothing more than "glorified chatrooms". Good times!


I play MMORPGs, and it's a cess pool of stupidity and almost butchers all established storyline and canon for the sake of gameplay. For example, people who stand in fire and wonder why they die.

againt hat sounds lieka problem with the players not the game. fire burns thats simple.

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Well if after ME3 they were to just let the universe rot then I would like to see an MMO. i would rather see a new single player game in the universe with the option to be any race with origin stories similar to dragon Age.