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[KaiserShep]

General Slotts wrote...

I can't believe this thread is 42 pages.

It all makes sense now.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Nightwriter wrote...

Both inner strength and strength from friendship are important. Though you could technically get by on just one or the other, you flourish with both.

You can make your inner strength stem from your friendship. That can be where you draw your strength from. That's how I call it.

[2Pac]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

General Slotts wrote...

I can't believe this thread is 42 pages.

It is a nice number.

43 will be the surperior number pretty soon .-.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

alliance commander wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

General Slotts wrote...

I can't believe this thread is 42 pages.

It is a nice number.

43 will be the surperior number pretty soon .-.

It's already begun...

[David7204]

A human being is an incredible thing.

A miracle of engineering. Somethings I sit and flex my fingers and marvel at the beautiful simplicity of it.

Millions of years of evolution. Capable of inventing and overcoming and problem solving. Capable of learning and applying incredible things. Capable of astounding feats. Capable of changing the world.

And there are few, so very few people in this world that recognize that. That truly believe it.

You look at most people, and more often than not, they're crippled by the mundane challenges they face. They resign themselves to lives and jobs and people they don't particularly like. Things that could easily change with the right state of mind. They've forgotten what their power as a human being is. Or they never learned it in the first place.

The problem isn't a lack of friends. In fact, it may well be the opposite.

The truth is, I'm probably only luckier than most.

Modifié par David7204, 19 août 2013 - 06:29 .

[Cainhurst Crow]

David7204 wrote...

A human being is an incredible thing.

A miracle of engineering. Somethings I sit and flex my fingers and marvel at the beautiful simplicity of it.

Millions of years of evolution. Capable of inventing and overcoming and problem solving. Capable of learning and applying incredible things. Capable of astounding feats. Capable of changing the world.

And there are few, so very few people in this world that recognize that. That truly believe it.

You look at most people, and more often than not, they're crippled by the mundane challenges they face. They resign themselves to lives and jobs and people they don't particularly like. Things that could easily change with the right state of mind. They've forgotten what their power as a human being is. Or they never learned it in the first place.

Yes.

[Nightwriter]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

Both inner strength and strength from friendship are important. Though you could technically get by on just one or the other, you flourish with both.

You can make your inner strength stem from your friendship. That can be where you draw your strength from. That's how I call it.

Perfectly valid.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Friends are great to have, but in the end they cannot be your only source. There may come a time when they will not be there for you. You have to be able to go it alone. That is a lesson I've learned in life.

I agree that having them is a strength multiplier.

Such it is with Shepard. Shepard is strong because of Shepard. Shepard's friends make Shepard stronger.

But what makes Shepard keep standing and going forward when he's alone? I think that strength comes from his friends. It's internal as much as it is external.

No, that's Shepard's motivation, because without his/her friends or loved ones, after a while all Shepard has is death and pain, and that is not enough. Or Shepard could have enough survival instinct to keep going. Sometimes the latter is enough.

[jhon shepard.4]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

David7204 wrote...

Motivation isn't always good enough. You need power. And power comes from recognizing yourself.

That's BS if I ever heard it. That is your motivation. Motivation is everything. What you said is motivation.

I think wat he is trying to say is that u need to know wat u can do by your self and that u don't need a pep talk all u need is to know what u can do.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

David7204 wrote...

A human being is an incredible thing.

A miracle of engineering. Somethings I sit and flex my fingers and marvel at the beautiful simplicity of it.

Millions of years of evolution. Capable of inventing and overcoming and problem solving. Capable of learning and applying incredible things. Capable of astounding feats. Capable of changing the world.

And there are few, so very few people in this world that recognize that. That truly believe it.

You look at most people, and more often than not, they're crippled by the mundane challenges they face. They resign themselves to lives and jobs and people they don't particularly like. Things that could easily change with the right state of mind. They've forgotten what their power as a human being is. Or they never learned it in the first place.

Yes.

Yes indeed. What's this got to do with inner strength in war? 

Because if you're sitting there doing that downrange, you're probably dead.

Also, I think the human body is pretty ****** poor from an engineering standpoint: Why do we have single joints on our elbows and shoulders? Those are too easy to break if you manipulate it hard enough.

Why is the system that we eat and drink with also the same system that we drink with? 

David's trying to pull some pseudo-philosophical science thing here.

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 19 août 2013 - 06:32 .

[David7204]

Everything.

It's what sets apart people like the Illusive Man. (forget the indoctrination.)

And Shepard.

Recognizing the power and the potential of a human being.

Modifié par David7204, 19 août 2013 - 06:31 .

[Ravensword]

Morocco Mole wrote...

I'd have sex with a reaper

O rly?

[MassivelyEffective0730]

David7204 wrote...

Everything.

It's what sets apart people like the Illusive Man. (forget the indoctrination.)

And Shepard.

Recognizing the power and the potential of a human being.

Not much compared to a Reaeper.

[Cainhurst Crow]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Friends are great to have, but in the end they cannot be your only source. There may come a time when they will not be there for you. You have to be able to go it alone. That is a lesson I've learned in life.

I agree that having them is a strength multiplier.

Such it is with Shepard. Shepard is strong because of Shepard. Shepard's friends make Shepard stronger.

But what makes Shepard keep standing and going forward when he's alone? I think that strength comes from his friends. It's internal as much as it is external.

No, that's Shepard's motivation, because without his/her friends or loved ones, after a while all Shepard has is death and pain, and that is not enough. Or Shepard could have enough survival instinct to keep going. Sometimes the latter is enough.

I suppose that is true, but than what would he after everythings over? What would he do when his love is away? What would he feel at the end of the day when the battle and fighting is through? Does he feel worried about being alone? Or maybe sad over being by himself?

A man cannot support the world on his shoulders and keep fighting without something worth fighting for.

That's why I think he needs his friends in order to get by in the war effort, and why they are equally if not more so important than shepard.

[Zazzerka]

Ravensword wrote...

O rly?

[HellbirdIV]

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

What's this got to do with inner strength in war?

Reckognizing one's own ability is just as important as cooperation in war. A single weak soldier can bring down the whole unit around them - which is why you can't rely entirely on your friends.

A single soldier can, however, turn the tide of a battle alone.

Modifié par HellbirdIV, 19 août 2013 - 06:35 .

[o Ventus]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

What would he do when his love is away?

Vigorously masturbate.

What would he feel at the end of the day when the battle and fighting is through? Does he feel worried about being alone? Or maybe sad over being by himself?

A man cannot support the world on his shoulders and keep fighting without something worth fighting for.

That's why I think he needs his friends in order to get by in the war effort, and why they are equally if not more so important than shepard.

In all seriousness, this.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

HellbirdIV wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

What's this got to do with inner strength in war?

Reckognizing one's own ability is just as important as cooperation in war. A single weak soldier can bring down the whole unit around them - which is why you can't rely entirely on your friends.

A single soldier can, however, turn the tide of a battle alone.

Yep. 

It's called a sniper.

Or a spotter.

Or a pilot of an A-10.

Or a supply guy.

You know where Audie Murphy got his strength? From his friends. That's why he got up on top of that burning tank destroyer. That's why he put himself in that situation.

Modifié par MassivelyEffective0730, 19 août 2013 - 06:38 .

[Cainhurst Crow]

No ones called me out on my bull**** yet wtf?

[Sir DeLoria]

 Noo!!! I missed the Xil meltdown:crying:

[jhon shepard.4]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

No ones called me out on my bull**** yet wtf?

That's bull****. Happy ?

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Friends are great to have, but in the end they cannot be your only source. There may come a time when they will not be there for you. You have to be able to go it alone. That is a lesson I've learned in life.

I agree that having them is a strength multiplier.

Such it is with Shepard. Shepard is strong because of Shepard. Shepard's friends make Shepard stronger.

But what makes Shepard keep standing and going forward when he's alone? I think that strength comes from his friends. It's internal as much as it is external.

No, that's Shepard's motivation, because without his/her friends or loved ones, after a while all Shepard has is death and pain, and that is not enough. Or Shepard could have enough survival instinct to keep going. Sometimes the latter is enough.

I suppose that is true, but than what would he after everythings over? What would he do when his love is away? What would he feel at the end of the day when the battle and fighting is through? Does he feel worried about being alone? Or maybe sad over being by himself?

A man cannot support the world on his shoulders and keep fighting without something worth fighting for.

That's why I think he needs his friends in order to get by in the war effort, and why they are equally if not more so important than shepard.

“We are all alone, born alone, die alone, and -- in spite of True Romance magazines -- we shall all someday look back on our lives and see that, in spite of our company, we were alone the whole way. I do not say lonely -- at least, not all the time -- but essentially, and finally, alone. This is what makes your self-respect so important, and I don't see how you can respect yourself if you must look in the hearts and minds of others for your happiness.” -- Hunter S. Thompson

[Cainhurst Crow]

Looks like someone hates the beatles.