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[Shadow Fox]

Wulfram wrote...

If you want to get into arthurian analogies then:

Maric = Uther
Alistair = Arthur
Morrigan = Morgause
OGB = Mordred, conceived in accidental incest.

Except in some legends he's concieved diliberatly by her tricking Arthur,others made by magic then there's the one where he raped her.

Also in the original legends Morgan and Morgause are different women with Morgan being Arthur's barely mentioned sister and a healer who heals his knights and Morgause as an evil witch who covets the throne...It was only  in later versions that they were combined into Morgan Le Fay along with adding Guinivere and Lancelot's*or Gawain's in some versions* affair.

Modifié par Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke, 19 août 2013 - 08:48 .

[Catroi]

wtf have you been smoking OP?


give me some

[Sejborg]

What if Wrex is the father?!!?

[llandwynwyn]

What if Vivian is Nimue,

what if Nimue is Rhiannon?

What if there are three Gwynhvar, no Lancelot and Morrigan and Morgawse aren't the same character?

Modifié par llandwynwyn, 19 août 2013 - 09:14 .

[Shadow Fox]

llandwynwyn wrote...

What if Vivian is Nimue,

what if Nimue is Rhiannon?

What if there are three Gwynhvar, no Lancelot and Morrigan and Morgawse aren't the same character?

As far as I can tell they weren't in the original stories. But Athurian legend is confusing as hell because of all the revisions and retellings.

[llandwynwyn]

@Arcane Exactly my point.
Also, there isn't really an original. Not even close to that. The legend are many different tales (like Gwydion's) put together as one by too many different people. They're adaptions of adaptions.

[leaguer of one]

llandwynwyn wrote...

@Arcane Exactly my point.
Also, there isn't really an original. Not even close to that. The legend are many different tales (like Gwydion's) put together as one by too many different people. They're adaptions of adaptions.

I thought the original tale was just political  propaganda by the ruling king at the time, like the story of Mcbeth.

[MisterJB]

Isn't Vivienne a bit too much...not-white to be Morrigan's mother?

[Shadow Fox]

leaguer of one wrote...

llandwynwyn wrote...

@Arcane Exactly my point.
Also, there isn't really an original. Not even close to that. The legend are many different tales (like Gwydion's) put together as one by too many different people. They're adaptions of adaptions.

I thought the original tale was just political  propaganda by the ruling king at the time, like the story of Mcbeth.

I heard the original had Arthur as a Celtic barbarian.

[Shadow Fox]

llandwynwyn wrote...

@Arcane Exactly my point.
Also, there isn't really an original. Not even close to that. The legend are many different tales (like Gwydion's) put together as one by too many different people. They're adaptions of adaptions.

So true.

[leaguer of one]

MisterJB wrote...

Isn't Vivienne a bit too much...not-white to be Morrigan's mother?

so...When do we get the comfermetion that Alistar and Moragan are siblings?

[Plaintiff]

"The Morrigan" is the name of a figure from Irish mythology; a shape-changing goddess of battle and strife. She has no particular connection to Arthurian legend.

Bioware probably named the character Morrigan simply because she can take animal form, just like the Morrigan of legend.

I don't think she'll have any connection to Vivienne.

[reeferdemon]

Though if they threw it at us now it would seem forced, Alistair and Morrigan being siblings would actually be amusing. They bicker like siblings already.

[BioFan (Official)]

 I'm not sure how genetics work in the DA universe, but Morigan is VERY pale, and Vivi has darker skin tones. It would probably take a few generations to have decendants of Vivienne be that pale. So I don't think the theory has good claim. 

[leaguer of one]

dc_unoxx wrote...

Though if they threw it at us now it would seem forced, Alistair and Morrigan being siblings would actually be amusing. They bicker like siblings already.

If you read stone throne, You find that Alitars father spends a night in Flemith's hut. What they did is never explained but it's stated that Flemith had 2 request the Maric(Alistars' father)Had to do and not talk about it with any one.

Modifié par leaguer of one, 19 août 2013 - 10:01 .

[MisterJB]

dc_unoxx wrote...

Though if they threw it at us now it would seem forced, Alistair and Morrigan being siblings would actually be amusing. They bicker like siblings already.

Does that mean...



Leaked image of OGB in orlesian regalia. Semi-rumor confirmed.

[Catroi]

it wouldnt be funny it would be unimaginative and boring and it would once again show how small this so-called world is.

[leaguer of one]

MisterJB wrote...

dc_unoxx wrote...

Though if they threw it at us now it would seem forced, Alistair and Morrigan being siblings would actually be amusing. They bicker like siblings already.

Does that mean...



Leaked image of OGB in orlesian regalia. Semi-rumor confirmed.

Kill it with fire. If the clild  was to become like  that I'll abort ruthlessly.

[leaguer of one]

Catroi wrote...

it wouldnt be funny it would be unimaginative and boring and it would once again show how small this so-called world is.

Maric did spend a night in Flemith's hut...So.....

[Frozenkex]

Hawke is Morrigan's father/mother, he disappeared because he traveled in time, daah.

[reeferdemon]

leaguer of one wrote...

dc_unoxx wrote...

Though if they threw it at us now it would seem forced, Alistair and Morrigan being siblings would actually be amusing. They bicker like siblings already.

If you read stone throne, You find that Alitars father spends a night in Flemith's hut. What they did is never explained but it's stated that Flemith had 2 request the Maric(Alistars' father)Had to do and not talk about it with any one.

I had forgotten about that, the whole top secret thing. I remember racking my brain trying to connect it to something in-game and came out with the conclusion that it would resurface in a later installment.

Modifié par dc_unoxx, 19 août 2013 - 10:14 .

[llandwynwyn]

@leaguer & Arcane

It's accepted the Arthurian tales were at first formed by two different Arthur, one God and human ( probably a comes britanniae). It isn't know when or how it started, the accepted truth, when I used to read about it, was a mere mistake. But when they become one they were also mixed with many, many different tales. Old Gods to old heroes (aspects of Finn , for example), to new things (Lancelot).   That's why there isn't a thing close to an original.

[leaguer of one]

llandwynwyn wrote...

@leaguer & Arcane

It's accepted the Arthurian tales were at first formed by two different Arthur, one God and human ( probably a comes britanniae). It isn't know when or how it started, the accepted truth, when I used to read about it, was a mere mistake. But when they become one they were also mixed with many, many different tales. Old Gods to old heroes (aspects of Finn , for example), to new things (Lancelot).   That's why there isn't a thing close to an original.

So we can say that the legend it self is it own self evolving living being with no beginning or end.

[leaguer of one]

dc_unoxx wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

dc_unoxx wrote...

Though if they threw it at us now it would seem forced, Alistair and Morrigan being siblings would actually be amusing. They bicker like siblings already.

If you read stone throne, You find that Alitars father spends a night in Flemith's hut. What they did is never explained but it's stated that Flemith had 2 request the Maric(Alistars' father)Had to do and not talk about it with any one.

I had forgotten about that, the whole top secret thing. I remember racking my brain trying to connect it to something in-game and came out with the conclusion that it would resurface in a later installment.

One promise was revealed in the comic "Silent grove" Maric was to use his blood to waken dragons in Antiva.

[leaguer of one]

Frozenkex wrote...

Hawke is Morrigan's father/mother, he disappeared because he traveled in time, daah.

Hawke is also the god baby. He is his own grandpa.

Modifié par leaguer of one, 19 août 2013 - 10:21 .