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[Evil]

OniTYME wrote...

Nova
Poison Strike
Biotic Charge w/ radius and bonus power

One thing the novaguard has over the slayer.
Everything he does makes biotics go boom.
With a team of adepts backing him he absolutely annihilates.
Someone needs to try this with 1 novaguard and 3 Awakened Collectors.
I personally wouldn't recommend Poison strike for detonations though, it's buggy registering hits off host, and on host charge is better, simply due to the shield regen allowing you to keep the detonation chain going without retreating to shield regen naturally.
A shame, it would have been nice to have a biotic power that was like charge, but not buggy off host.
It's still useful for quick travel though.

[Oni Changas]

If PS had problems off host for me, I'd not mention it.

However, like Nova, it gives you I-frames AND detonates everything while hitting multiple targets and applying DoT in addition to going through walls.

[Caldari Ghost]

Geth infiltrator

[robarcool]

Reave?

[Caldari Ghost]

robarcool wrote...

Reave?

wrong

[robarcool]

Caldari Ghost wrote...

robarcool wrote...

Reave?

wrong

Ok

[Evil]

OniTYME wrote...

If PS had problems off host for me, I'd not mention it.

However, like Nova, it gives you I-frames AND detonates everything while hitting multiple targets and applying DoT in addition to going through walls.

If you're able to use it successfuly, then yes, it's actually very good, for the reaons you said.
Unfortunately, it seems that a lot of people, myself included, find it to be unreliable.
Check the second post in the below thread, made by cyonan.
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/343/index/16749004/1
As several people in that thread point out, when it does work, it's damn good.
But if you can't trust it to work when it matters the most, you can understand why a lot of people only use it for the teleport.

Modifié par Evil Mastered, 20 août 2013 - 01:20 .

[Miniditka77]

Cyonan wrote...

Miniditka77 wrote...

EDIT:  Re Biotic Slash - it's also a great detonator, and an extremely underrated power (maybe most underrated on the game).  Its long, awkward cast animation and limited range are downsides though.  I prefer Shockwave.

I think Biotic and Electrical Slash just get a bad reputation around here because of pugs that sit behind walls and do nothing but spam those abilities.

That, and Phase Disruptor is better for personal score.

I think that's correct.  Also, Phase Disruptor isn't just better for score - it's also a lot more fun.

The only time that I wasn't annoyed by a Slash spamming Slayer was the time I was using a Justicar in the same game.  Sooo many explosions.

Modifié par Miniditka77, 20 août 2013 - 01:30 .

[lastofthefive0s]

robarcool wrote...

Caldari Ghost wrote...

robarcool wrote...

Reave?

wrong

Ok

I really have fun playing the Justicar with Pull/Reave & the Acolyte.  Strip shields, hit multiple targets with pull and blow them up with Reave.  So satisfying to watch Marauders or Hunters floating helplessly knowing that I'm going to explode them in a second.

[lightswitch]

megabeast37215 wrote...

lightswitch wrote...

Wasn't on your list, but warp should be mentioned. BE damage modifier, decent direct damage, no range limit. Plus that debuff...

I mentioned it at the end of the post... Then dismissed it bc of pitiful raw damage. It only does good raw damage on the Huntress coming out of cloak.

It's not all about direct damage. The casting time on at least a couple of the powers you mentioned is obnoxious.

Although the direct damage on warp really isn't that bad against armor and barriers. On it's own it can do somewhere in the vicinity of an unbuffed fire/biotic explosion if specced for it.

Modifié par lightswitch, 20 août 2013 - 04:29 .

[Titus Thongger]

singularity is the best primer imo

smash is the best detonator for the raw upfront damage it does. A shockwave that doesn't detonate a BE combo does diddly squat

[Beerfish]

Titus Thongger wrote...

singularity is the best primer imo

smash is the best detonator for the raw upfront damage it does. A shockwave that doesn't detonate a BE combo does diddly squat

I have almost never played the pheonix addept until recently because I hate playing with lashers and smashers but lately to do a wave objective I've been playing him and have been highly suprised at how good smash is.

[Arctican]

If we're talking about raw damage, then Biotic Hammer should get a mention.

[Fiddles dee dee]

Speed of detonations vs raw power?

I would argue the Fury and Valkyrie get off the largest number in the shortest time but the sheer amount of damage isn't Singularity shockwave the heaviest? With honourable mention to Biotic Hammer?

[megabeast37215]

MasterReefa wrote...

Your girl detonates frequently and furiously Mega.

If only you knew 

[stysiaq]

Smash, cause I said so

[tonton_guitou]

Best primer = dark channel (automacilly priming another target after killing the first one)
Best detonator = throw (faster power to spam)

Best character for biotic explosion = N7 fury (dark channel, throw, annihilation field)

[Alijah Green]

stysiaq wrote...

Smash, cause I said so

You are wrong, you all are, Biotic Hammer has no match

[DHKany]

guigui_daddy_92 wrote...

Best primer = dark channel  Reave

ftfy. 

Annihilation field comes close. 

[dudemacha]

If im dealing with mooks, throw is the best detonator coz of its spammability, 50% BE buff, force component...
For bosses...smash for moar armor damage

[Catastrophy]

I'd go with clusters for detonating. Very powerful and stand-off capability with unpredictable results. I like Slasher play on Rio.

Everything else: Throw because it's fast and has unlimited use. Lash comes close but it's too limited against armour.

[Jaun Shepard]

Cluster Grenades

[Beerfish]

DHKany wrote...

guigui_daddy_92 wrote...

Best primer = dark channel  Reave

ftfy. 

Annihilation field comes close. 

I think he has a very good point about dark channel.  Auto priming the next target is pretty darn good.