Xilizhra wrote...
Hey, it's something that can happen to them regardless!AresKeith wrote...
Xilizhra wrote...
It's rather like training firefighters by dousing them in gasoline and setting them on fire.You mean something that can happen to Mages regardless of the Harrowing?
*gasp*
Not even close
All right, I'll be fair. Setting them on fire without the gasoline. That's a perfect analogy.
ummmm you do remember my old avatar? It hasn't been that long..Cthulhu42 wrote...
Oh, don't get me wrong, I think he's a great character. It's just that he's also a complete psychopath with terrible morals.Steelcan wrote...
I agree completely.Cthulhu42 wrote...
Oh boy, this thread's turning into a Watchmen discussion. I am pleased.
For the record, I think Ozymandias was 100% right with everything he did, and Rorschach was an idiot to try and reveal what happened.
But I still like the guy
Maria Caliban wrote...
None of the Watchmen characters are 'in the right.' At best, they have good intentions and the conviction to act on what they believe.
Darth Brotarian wrote...
I thought that was the appeal of watchmen for people. Superpowers without the super heroes part.
Guest_Cthulhu42_*
The only one with superpowers is Dr. Manhattan, actually.Darth Brotarian wrote...
I thought that was the appeal of watchmen for people. Superpowers without the super heroes part.
dragonflight288 wrote...
Maria Caliban wrote...
None of the Watchmen characters are 'in the right.' At best, they have good intentions and the conviction to act on what they believe.
And each of them ultimately turned their backs on what they swore to do in their own way. Each of them was a psychopath in their own way as well.
He is a god. Not a superheroCthulhu42 wrote...
The only one with superpowers is Dr. Manhattan, actually.Darth Brotarian wrote...
I thought that was the appeal of watchmen for people. Superpowers without the super heroes part.
Xilizhra wrote...
Hey, it's something that can happen to them regardless!AresKeith wrote...
Xilizhra wrote...
It's rather like training firefighters by dousing them in gasoline and setting them on fire.You mean something that can happen to Mages regardless of the Harrowing?
*gasp*
Not even close
All right, I'll be fair. Setting them on fire without the gasoline. That's a perfect analogy.
Except they're only sixteen and have never done it before.MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...
Xilizhra wrote...
Hey, it's something that can happen to them regardless!AresKeith wrote...
Xilizhra wrote...
It's rather like training firefighters by dousing them in gasoline and setting them on fire.You mean something that can happen to Mages regardless of the Harrowing?
*gasp*
Not even close
All right, I'll be fair. Setting them on fire without the gasoline. That's a perfect analogy.
It's not even close to a real argument on your part.
The best I'd say is to take an Army Airborne Soldier who's rigged his own Parachute and having him jump off the edge of a C-130 at 1,000 feet.
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Xilizhra wrote...
Except they're only sixteen and have never done it before.
I still think my analogy of training firefighters by setting them on fire (or, perhaps, dropping them unexpectedly into a burning building) is more accurate. And if you prefer, I'll bump the age to 19... which is still too generous; that was the age Bethany had her own Harrowing after being captured by the Circle, and the codex says it was "long-delayed."EntropicAngel wrote...
Xilizhra wrote...
Except they're only sixteen and have never done it before.
And you've been training them for it since they were eight (your "16" is way too young, btw).
Modifié par Xilizhra, 24 août 2013 - 03:05 .
Mages are in their 20's when they do their harrowing and they are train most of their lives to deal with demons.Xilizhra wrote...
Except they're only sixteen and have never done it before.
EntropicAngel wrote...
Xilizhra wrote...
Except they're only sixteen and have never done it before.
And you've been training them for it since they were eight (your "16" is way too young, btw).
Ok, dropping them into a burnung building unexpectedly is the right annology...But they are taught how ro deal with it and for the rest of theirs they are going to be droppied unexpectedly into a burning building and need to learn how to deal with it.Xilizhra wrote...
I still think my analogy of training firefighters by setting them on fire (or, perhaps, dropping them unexpectedly into a burning building) is more accurate. And if you prefer, I'll bump the age to 19... which is still too generous; that was the age Bethany had her own Harrowing after being captured by the Circle, and the codex says it was "long-delayed."EntropicAngel wrote...
Xilizhra wrote...
Except they're only sixteen and have never done it before.
And you've been training them for it since they were eight (your "16" is way too young, btw).
leaguer of one wrote...
Mages are in their 20's when they do their harrowing and they are train most of their lives to deal with demons.Xilizhra wrote...
Except they're only sixteen and have never done it before.
This seems to be less than accurate, given that demonic possession is by no means a constant risk that mages fear. We never have any dialogue about them being afraid to sleep because demons might eat them, for instance. It only seems to happen in thin-Veiled areas or when demons are being outright summoned.leaguer of one wrote...
Ok, dropping them into a burnung building unexpectedly is the right annology...But they are taught how ro deal with it and for the rest of theirs they are going to be droppied unexpectedly into a burning building and need to learn how to deal with it.Xilizhra wrote...
I still think my analogy of training firefighters by setting them on fire (or, perhaps, dropping them unexpectedly into a burning building) is more accurate. And if you prefer, I'll bump the age to 19... which is still too generous; that was the age Bethany had her own Harrowing after being captured by the Circle, and the codex says it was "long-delayed."EntropicAngel wrote...
Xilizhra wrote...
Except they're only sixteen and have never done it before.
And you've been training them for it since they were eight (your "16" is way too young, btw).
Wynne says differently. She literaly says it can happen at anytime. And in DA2 was see that.Xilizhra wrote...
This seems to be less than accurate, given that demonic possession is by no means a constant risk that mages fear. We never have any dialogue about them being afraid to sleep because demons might eat them, for instance. It only seems to happen in thin-Veiled areas or when demons are being outright summoned.leaguer of one wrote...
Ok, dropping them into a burnung building unexpectedly is the right annology...But they are taught how ro deal with it and for the rest of theirs they are going to be droppied unexpectedly into a burning building and need to learn how to deal with it.Xilizhra wrote...
I still think my analogy of training firefighters by setting them on fire (or, perhaps, dropping them unexpectedly into a burning building) is more accurate. And if you prefer, I'll bump the age to 19... which is still too generous; that was the age Bethany had her own Harrowing after being captured by the Circle, and the codex says it was "long-delayed."EntropicAngel wrote...
Xilizhra wrote...
Except they're only sixteen and have never done it before.
And you've been training them for it since they were eight (your "16" is way too young, btw).
Oh, it can. Just as you could die of a stroke at any given moment. But it's not a constant fear for most. And the entirety of Kirkwall had a thin Veil.Wynne says differently. She literaly says it can happen at anytime. And in DA2 was see that.
Xilizhra wrote...
Oh, it can. Just as you could die of a stroke at any given moment. But it's not a constant fear for most. And the entirety of Kirkwall had a thin Veil.Wynne says differently. She literaly says it can happen at anytime. And in DA2 was see that.
Xilizhra wrote...
This seems to be less than accurate, given that demonic possession is by no means a constant risk that mages fear. We never have any dialogue about them being afraid to sleep because demons might eat them, for instance. It only seems to happen in thin-Veiled areas or when demons are being outright summoned.
Modifié par addiction21, 24 août 2013 - 03:34 .
One not in your fantasy land, presumably.It is a very constant fear for all mages. I don't know what DA you played but it seems to be a lot different.
It's only a statistically significant danger in a thin Veil area.Any mage that's been lucky enough to be educated about their situation are very much aware of possession. That when they dream is the most dangerous time.
Redcliffe was not thin-Veiled, true; that was deliberate demon summoning, which you'll find I mentioned in the post you quoted. As for Meredith's sister, you'll find that the codex states that she was a native of Kirkwall, presumably a village outside the city walls proper; however, certain other codex entries indicate that Kirkwall's miasma slipped out past the walls themselves, and one of the possible sources is Corypheus in the Vimmark Mountains. That whole region is tainted, not just the city proper.You have been shown and told repeatedly its not about how thin the veil is. YOU Xilzhra choose to ignore that and bury your head in the sand. Redcliff is not "thin-veiled" and all the excuses you and the rest don't mean ****. THat happened. SHaled village that happened. Meridiths sister that happened.
Xilizhra wrote...
One not in your fantasy land, presumably.It is a very constant fear for all mages. I don't know what DA you played but it seems to be a lot different.
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