Sorry if I'm late on this, but I just saw this video saying a Bioware dev tweeted that they follow the Dalish Elf origin with the Warden dead and Alistair as king for the books and comic lore. Is that true?
If so, ew. That was the most boring origin imo, and even has the botched/retconned Merril. And if the Warden's dead then there's no OGB and Witch Hunt never even happened.
That sounds like the blandest set of choices possible just to push the elluvian angle, and I sincerely hope that isn't ever made official.
The Dalish Origin is Canon?
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Taint Master
, août 20 2013 11:56
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Posté 20 août 2013 - 04:27
David Gaider
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The problem here is that people have a strange idea of what "canon" means-- almost a paranoia, really.
We have a default canon, which applies if you import nothing. So if someone comes to DAI with no import of previous games, they get a certain set of previous decisions being presumed-- and those tend to be ones that don't promise future content. The Warden of DAO is dead, because why would someone who's importing no save (and is possibly a brand new player) care about their Warden still being alive and involved in the plot? There is no OGB, because why would that person care about Morrigan having a child from some game they possibly never even played?
As for things which don't involve future content, like the sex and race of the Warden, yes-- those we just decided on at some point. So the default Warden who died was a female Dalish elf.
A default should not concern you in the slightest, however, if you intend on importing-- which I assume everyone who's hanging around on these forums a year before release likely is. How we'll do that importing is the subject of a future reveal, it's true, but I'm uncertain why a fan would be concerned about the default settings of a version of the story they'll never use.
And if your version of the definition of canon is "it overrides my previous story", then rest assured that will not happen. The story may not go exactly as you want/expect (as in Leliana being alive, if you killed her in DAO), but that's not the same as those previous actions being treated as if they never happened at all. If we ever decide to move Dragon Age over to one canonical story in-between games, I'm almost positive we would give lots of advance notice to allow fans time to rend garments, burn effigies, and send cupcakes. Until that point, just wait for news on the import feature.
We have a default canon, which applies if you import nothing. So if someone comes to DAI with no import of previous games, they get a certain set of previous decisions being presumed-- and those tend to be ones that don't promise future content. The Warden of DAO is dead, because why would someone who's importing no save (and is possibly a brand new player) care about their Warden still being alive and involved in the plot? There is no OGB, because why would that person care about Morrigan having a child from some game they possibly never even played?
As for things which don't involve future content, like the sex and race of the Warden, yes-- those we just decided on at some point. So the default Warden who died was a female Dalish elf.
A default should not concern you in the slightest, however, if you intend on importing-- which I assume everyone who's hanging around on these forums a year before release likely is. How we'll do that importing is the subject of a future reveal, it's true, but I'm uncertain why a fan would be concerned about the default settings of a version of the story they'll never use.
And if your version of the definition of canon is "it overrides my previous story", then rest assured that will not happen. The story may not go exactly as you want/expect (as in Leliana being alive, if you killed her in DAO), but that's not the same as those previous actions being treated as if they never happened at all. If we ever decide to move Dragon Age over to one canonical story in-between games, I'm almost positive we would give lots of advance notice to allow fans time to rend garments, burn effigies, and send cupcakes. Until that point, just wait for news on the import feature.
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Posté 20 août 2013 - 04:37
David Gaider
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Elhanan wrote...
Just a guess, but not all will have Saved Files on newer systems.
Yes, we're aware of that-- and have an answer, which we will discuss. Later.
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Posté 20 août 2013 - 04:52
David Gaider
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Nelatherion wrote...
I always assumed that the "default lore" for Inquisition would be similar to DA:II in that, if you don't import you get 3 choices to choose as your "default lore".
The only reason we had that was because we had no way to provide for those who didn't have a save game available (as not everyone preserves or is able to preserve their old saves forever and ever). Seeing as we have something for that now, the only reason to use the default is because you don't care-- and thus there's only a need for one version of the default.
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Posté 21 août 2013 - 09:36
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Dorrieb wrote...
Hang on. Then the Old God Baby, a messianic and/or antichrist figure with the potential to revolutionise our view of the world as we know it, is actually a relatively minor detail that may or may not exist, and it won't change matters much?
"messianic and/or antichrist figure with the potential to revolutionise our view of the world as we know it"
Umm... what?
That is disappointing to me, because it hinted that the series was headed toward some kind of apocalyptic revelation, some age-of-aquarius-style dawning of illumination that would reveal the real nature of the Fade, and our relationship to it, and the true reason for why things are as they are. Instead it seems that it was only ever a device to avoid the Warden having to die, if you know, you didn't want to, and that the series is going to focus on plain old political upheaval firmly within the status quo.
Not that there's anything wrong with that. It's just the gap between my expectations and what it's actually turning out to be.
Not to put too fine a point on it, but I think there's a difference between your expectations and what you think has actually been hinted... and I think that's related to whatever you think the Old God Baby is "actually turning out to be", which hasn't been hinted at whatsoever outside of the fact it has to be an optonal part of the upcoming story.
I'm all for people having headcanon and such, but that's what fanfiction is for.
