Modifié par LPPrince, 20 août 2013 - 04:37 .
Elhanan wrote...
Just a guess, but not all will have Saved Files on newer systems.
David Gaider wrote...
A default should not concern you in the slightest, however, if you intend on importing-- which I assume everyone who's hanging around on these forums a year before release likely is. How we'll do that importing is the subject of a future reveal, it's true, but I'm uncertain why a fan would be concerned about the default settings of a version of the story they'll never use.
Modifié par Wulfram, 20 août 2013 - 04:39 .
David Gaider wrote...
Elhanan wrote...
Just a guess, but not all will have Saved Files on newer systems.
Yes, we're aware of that-- and have an answer, which we will discuss. Later.
Modifié par KcK__, 21 août 2013 - 01:03 .
David Gaider wrote...
The problem here is that people have a strange idea of what "canon" means-- almost a paranoia, really.
We have a default canon, which applies if you import nothing. So if someone comes to DAI with no import of previous games, they get a certain set of previous decisions being presumed-- and those tend to be ones that don't promise future content. The Warden of DAO is dead, because why would someone who's importing no save (and is possibly a brand new player) care about their Warden still being alive and involved in the plot? There is no OGB, because why would that person care about Morrigan having a child from some game they possibly never even played?
As for things which don't involve future content, like the sex and race of the Warden, yes-- those we just decided on at some point. So the default Warden who died was a female Dalish elf.
A default should not concern you in the slightest, however, if you intend on importing-- which I assume everyone who's hanging around on these forums a year before release likely is. How we'll do that importing is the subject of a future reveal, it's true, but I'm uncertain why a fan would be concerned about the default settings of a version of the story they'll never use.
And if your version of the definition of canon is "it overrides my previous story", then rest assured that will not happen. The story may not go exactly as you want/expect (as in Leliana being alive, if you killed her in DAO), but that's not the same as those previous actions being treated as if they never happened at all. If we ever decide to move Dragon Age over to one canonical story in-between games, I'm almost positive we would give lots of advance notice to allow fans time to rend garments, burn effigies, and send cupcakes. Until that point, just wait for news on the import feature.
KcK__ wrote...
It never ceases to amaze me that Me. Gaider always takes part in these "canon" discussions. I would have just started banging my head against the wall long time ago. Well done DG!
Personality Disorder wrote...
Indeed. DA forums should have a huge banner at the top at all times that says:
THERE IS NO CANON, ONLY DEFAULT
in the biggest font possible.
David Gaider wrote...
The problem here is that people have a strange idea of what "canon" means-- almost a paranoia, really.
We have a default canon, which applies if you import nothing. So if someone comes to DAI with no import of previous games, they get a certain set of previous decisions being presumed-- and those tend to be ones that don't promise future content. The Warden of DAO is dead, because why would someone who's importing no save (and is possibly a brand new player) care about their Warden still being alive and involved in the plot? There is no OGB, because why would that person care about Morrigan having a child from some game they possibly never even played?
As for things which don't involve future content, like the sex and race of the Warden, yes-- those we just decided on at some point. So the default Warden who died was a female Dalish elf.
A default should not concern you in the slightest, however, if you intend on importing-- which I assume everyone who's hanging around on these forums a year before release likely is. How we'll do that importing is the subject of a future reveal, it's true, but I'm uncertain why a fan would be concerned about the default settings of a version of the story they'll never use.
And if your version of the definition of canon is "it overrides my previous story", then rest assured that will not happen. The story may not go exactly as you want/expect (as in Leliana being alive, if you killed her in DAO), but that's not the same as those previous actions being treated as if they never happened at all. If we ever decide to move Dragon Age over to one canonical story in-between games, I'm almost positive we would give lots of advance notice to allow fans time to rend garments, burn effigies, and send cupcakes. Until that point, just wait for news on the import feature.
David Gaider wrote...
Yes, we're aware of that-- and have an answer, which we will discuss. Later.
Nelatherion wrote...
I always assumed that the "default lore" for Inquisition would be similar to DA:II in that, if you don't import you get 3 choices to choose as your "default lore".
YohkoOhno wrote...
Out of curiosity, when Bioware creates a default setting, do you guys take into account the metrics of the existing playthroughts in total? That is, was the female dalish elf story one of the more popular choices. Or do you just choose something that you think will fit into the new campaign smoothly? Or a combination?
YohkoOhno wrote...
Out of curiosity, when Bioware creates a default setting, do you guys take into account the metrics of the existing playthroughts in total? That is, was the female dalish elf story one of the more popular choices. Or do you just choose something that you think will fit into the new campaign smoothly? Or a combination?
David Gaider wrote...
Nelatherion wrote...
I always assumed that the "default lore" for Inquisition would be similar to DA:II in that, if you don't import you get 3 choices to choose as your "default lore".
The only reason we had that was because we had no way to provide for those who didn't have a save game available (as not everyone preserves or is able to preserve their old saves forever and ever). Seeing as we have something for that now, the only reason to use the default is because you don't care-- and thus there's only a need for one version of the default.
Deverz wrote...
Just import a save with a different origin then. I don't see what the big problem is.
Modifié par Elhanan, 20 août 2013 - 05:03 .
Thank you, sir. this is a point I've been trying to validate!David Gaider wrote...
The problem here is that people have a strange idea of what "canon" means-- almost a paranoia, really.
We have a default canon, which applies if you import nothing. So if someone comes to DAI with no import of previous games, they get a certain set of previous decisions being presumed-- and those tend to be ones that don't promise future content. The Warden of DAO is dead, because why would someone who's importing no save (and is possibly a brand new player) care about their Warden still being alive and involved in the plot? There is no OGB, because why would that person care about Morrigan having a child from some game they possibly never even played?
As for things which don't involve future content, like the sex and race of the Warden, yes-- those we just decided on at some point. So the default Warden who died was a female Dalish elf.
A default should not concern you in the slightest, however, if you intend on importing-- which I assume everyone who's hanging around on these forums a year before release likely is. How we'll do that importing is the subject of a future reveal, it's true, but I'm uncertain why a fan would be concerned about the default settings of a version of the story they'll never use.
And if your version of the definition of canon is "it overrides my previous story", then rest assured that will not happen. The story may not go exactly as you want/expect (as in Leliana being alive, if you killed her in DAO), but that's not the same as those previous actions being treated as if they never happened at all. If we ever decide to move Dragon Age over to one canonical story in-between games, I'm almost positive we would give lots of advance notice to allow fans time to rend garments, burn effigies, and send cupcakes. Until that point, just wait for news on the import feature.
David Gaider wrote...
The only reason we had that was because we had no way to provide for those who didn't have a save game available (as not everyone preserves or is able to preserve their old saves forever and ever). Seeing as we have something for that now, the only reason to use the default is because you don't care-- and thus there's only a need for one version of the default.
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I think he's taling about cloud saving.Wulfram wrote...
David Gaider wrote...
Nelatherion wrote...
I always assumed that the "default lore" for Inquisition would be similar to DA:II in that, if you don't import you get 3 choices to choose as your "default lore".
The only reason we had that was because we had no way to provide for those who didn't have a save game available (as not everyone preserves or is able to preserve their old saves forever and ever). Seeing as we have something for that now, the only reason to use the default is because you don't care-- and thus there's only a need for one version of the default.
Ah, so the import doesn't need a save. Cool.
Knight of Dane wrote...
I think he's taling about cloud saving.
Modifié par Azaron Nightblade, 20 août 2013 - 05:48 .
Yalision wrote...
I can't wait to see how the game is going to translate my DA2 import with a dead Warden who completed Awakening, then went on to DA2 which confirmed he was indeed dead despite his zombie accomplishments. This should be very amusing.
Knight of Dane wrote...
I think he's taling about cloud saving.Wulfram wrote...
Ah, so the import doesn't need a save. Cool.
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