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[Murder Knife]

David Gaider wrote...

Elhanan wrote...
Just a guess, but not all will have Saved Files on newer systems.

Yes, we're aware of that-- and have an answer, which we will discuss. Later.

This pleases me. I really hope that I'll be able to continue playing in the world of my city elf warrior warden, even if I switch platforms.

[blod007]

Just curious, but why was the Dalish origin never a mage? In view of what the future had in store for the Warden, it would have been a good line imo. Maybe one apostate was enough to make the point in the story. Any one have any ideas?

[Dormiglione]

David Gaider wrote...

The problem here is that people have a strange idea of what "canon" means-- almost a paranoia, really.

We have a default canon, which applies if you import nothing. So if someone comes to DAI with no import of previous games, they get a certain set of previous decisions being presumed-- and those tend to be ones that don't promise future content. The Warden of DAO is dead, because why would someone who's importing no save (and is possibly a brand new player) care about their Warden still being alive and involved in the plot? There is no OGB, because why would that person care about Morrigan having a child from some game they possibly never even played?

As for things which don't involve future content, like the sex and race of the Warden, yes-- those we just decided on at some point. So the default Warden who died was a female Dalish elf.

A default should not concern you in the slightest, however, if you intend on importing-- which I assume everyone who's hanging around on these forums a year before release likely is. How we'll do that importing is the subject of a future reveal, it's true, but I'm uncertain why a fan would be concerned about the default settings of a version of the story they'll never use.

And if your version of the definition of canon is "it overrides my previous story", then rest assured that will not happen. The story may not go exactly as you want/expect (as in Leliana being alive, if you killed her in DAO), but that's not the same as those previous actions being treated as if they never happened at all. If we ever decide to move Dragon Age over to one canonical story in-between games, I'm almost positive we would give lots of advance notice to allow fans time to rend garments, burn effigies, and send cupcakes. Until that point, just wait for news on the import feature.

Thank you for clarifying this. To be honest, im pretty sure that im going for 2 playthroughs, one with my imported savegame and one with the default "Bioware" settings. Just because im curious to see how does it differs in gameplay storywise.

Another point is, why do people think that their decisions in previous games are that important in new installments. Since the Warden and Hawke are not coming back, the old decisions may not have more than a cosmetic character in the new game.
Maybe im wrong and the imported savegame will trigger some animations or sidequests? But this would be not fair for people who didnt play the previous Dragon Age games.
Just my opinion.

[Elhanan]

blod007 wrote...

Just curious, but why was the Dalish origin never a mage? In view of what the future had in store for the Warden, it would have been a good line imo. Maybe one apostate was enough to make the point in the story. Any one have any ideas?

I made my own; an Elvish Mage w/ tattoos, and chose the dialogue that best fit that imaginary background.

[Knight of Dane]

Wulfram wrote...

Knight of Dane wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

Ah, so the import doesn't need a save. Cool.

I think he's taling about cloud saving.

That wouldn't make much sense to me.  I can't imagine many people would use Origin's cloud save feature in DA2, since you have to manually delete a bloated screenshot if you don't want it to fill up your space really quickly.  And it didn't exist when the game was released, anyway, so the issue of lost save still exists.

Perhaps, that's just how I interpreted his sentence:

Gaider Da Man wrote...

The only reason we had that was because we had no way to provide for those who didn't have a save game available (as not everyone preserves or is able to preserve their old saves forever and ever).

Not all could keep their saves at the time this game was being developed.

Seeing as we have something for that now, the only reason to use the default is because you don't care-- and thus there's only a need for one version of the default.

Cloud saving!

[blod007]

I had the Dalish mage mod running ok. Just made wonder why it was not an option in the first place.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

Good. The Elves need some loving after DA2 anyway.

[esper]

Knight of Dane wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

Knight of Dane wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

Ah, so the import doesn't need a save. Cool.

I think he's taling about cloud saving.

That wouldn't make much sense to me.  I can't imagine many people would use Origin's cloud save feature in DA2, since you have to manually delete a bloated screenshot if you don't want it to fill up your space really quickly.  And it didn't exist when the game was released, anyway, so the issue of lost save still exists.

Perhaps, that's just how I interpreted his sentence:

Gaider Da Man wrote...

The only reason we had that was because we had no way to provide for those who didn't have a save game available (as not everyone preserves or is able to preserve their old saves forever and ever).

Not all could keep their saves at the time this game was being developed.

Seeing as we have something for that now, the only reason to use the default is because you don't care-- and thus there's only a need for one version of the default.

Cloud saving!

That is really jumping too conclusion. Also the only ones on the PS3 who have cloud saving is those wiht PS3+. Something not everybody has.

[Azaron Nightblade]

esper wrote...

That is really jumping too conclusion. Also the only ones on the PS3 who have cloud saving is those wiht PS3+. Something not everybody has.

Hmm? PC users have it as well through Origin, I just made sure to add some of my most prominent save games to the cloud last week.

[Knight of Dane]

Yeah, well, Cloud Saving was just the first thing I thought of when he talked about solving the former problem of keeping saves.

[esper]

Knight of Dane wrote...

Yeah, well, Cloud Saving was just the first thing I thought of when he talked about solving the former problem of keeping saves.

Well, it is a better guess than nothing.

[Nerevar-as]

Dormiglione wrote...

Thank you for clarifying this. To be honest, im pretty sure that im going for 2 playthroughs, one with my imported savegame and one with the default "Bioware" settings. Just because im curious to see how does it differs in gameplay storywise.

Another point is, why do people think that their decisions in previous games are that important in new installments. Since the Warden and Hawke are not coming back, the old decisions may not have more than a cosmetic character in the new game.
Maybe im wrong and the imported savegame will trigger some animations or sidequests? But this would be not fair for people who didnt play the previous Dragon Age games.
Just my opinion.

It´s unfair for the people who did play them. If you get into a series halfway through, you are going to miss things, so I don´t see why games should be any different than TV series or books or comics.

I wonder if the default is also similar to default Shepard, who could rightly be named failure Shepard, who did no sidequests, and was renegade during the game, thus ensuring s/he missed all side content.

[Nerevar-as]

Azaron Nightblade wrote...

esper wrote...

That is really jumping too conclusion. Also the only ones on the PS3 who have cloud saving is those wiht PS3+. Something not everybody has.

Hmm? PC users have it as well through Origin, I just made sure to add some of my most prominent save games to the cloud last week.

I guess I´ll have to finish that 2nd DA2 playthrough.

[Cainhurst Crow]

I gotta be honest, using the dalish origin threw me for a loop. I was certain this whole time that human noble was the default canon of bioware.

The more you know. XD

[Spectre slayer]

David Gaider wrote...

The problem here is that people have a strange idea of what "canon" means-- almost a paranoia, really.

We have a default canon, which applies if you import nothing. So if someone comes to DAI with no import of previous games, they get a certain set of previous decisions being presumed-- and those tend to be ones that don't promise future content. The Warden of DAO is dead, because why would someone who's importing no save (and is possibly a brand new player) care about their Warden still being alive and involved in the plot? There is no OGB, because why would that person care about Morrigan having a child from some game they possibly never even played?

As for things which don't involve future content, like the sex and race of the Warden, yes-- those we just decided on at some point. So the default Warden who died was a female Dalish elf.

A default should not concern you in the slightest, however, if you intend on importing-- which I assume everyone who's hanging around on these forums a year before release likely is. How we'll do that importing is the subject of a future reveal, it's true, but I'm uncertain why a fan would be concerned about the default settings of a version of the story they'll never use.

And if your version of the definition of canon is "it overrides my previous story", then rest assured that will not happen. The story may not go exactly as you want/expect (as in Leliana being alive, if you killed her in DAO), but that's not the same as those previous actions being treated as if they never happened at all. If we ever decide to move Dragon Age over to one canonical story in-between games, I'm almost positive we would give lots of advance notice to allow fans time to rend garments, burn effigies, and send cupcakes. Until that point, just wait for news on the import feature.

Finally now maybe a certain group of players will shut up, they have a canon which =default settings for new players or people who plan not to import their saves.

Modifié par Spectre slayer, 20 août 2013 - 07:00 .

[Cainhurst Crow]

You say that like that group of players would let facts determine their opinion.

[aries1001]

David Gaider wrote...

Elhanan wrote...
Just a guess, but not all will have Saved Files on newer systems.

Yes, we're aware of that-- and have an answer, which we will discuss. Later.

Does this mean that there will be solution for those of us who now have a pc with Windows 7? and have played all of the DA Games including the addons etc. (like Mark of the Assanin and Legacy) on Windows XP? I do hope so - mostlæy because I just have gotten a computer with windows 7 as the operating system...

[Maria Caliban]

David Gaider wrote...

Nelatherion wrote...
I always assumed that the "default lore" for Inquisition would be similar to DA:II in that, if you don't import you get 3 choices to choose as your "default lore".

The only reason we had that was because we had no way to provide for those who didn't have a save game available (as not everyone preserves or is able to preserve their old saves forever and ever). Seeing as we have something for that now, the only reason to use the default is because you don't care-- and thus there's only a need for one version of the default.

Hmmm...

People lose their save games and that's a problem but you have 'something for that now.'

This fills me with curious optimism.

[Nightdragon8]

Taint Master wrote...

Cirram55 wrote...

For the thousandth time again: Bioware's canon is just for books and comics.

For now.  Or do you really believe they'll leave the games open ended forever?

I'm sure there will come a time when there's just too many variables to account for.  And then Dragon Age gets the Revan treatment.

Bah, there's just so much more drama involved with the other choices.

no they just need to have a 100 year time jump and 98% of the varibles will just be minor codex points.

The only ones that would be a "major" one is for Alister king and OGB.

Now depending what they wanna do with the OGB could still be a factor.

While I don't think Alister being king or not would make a huge difference 100 years down the line, maybe it wouldbe a overall polocy change rather than anything else.

[Wulfram]

Nightdragon8 wrote...

no they just need to have a 100 year time jump and 98% of the varibles will just be minor codex points.

Problem, 100 year jump means it's not the Dragon Age any more.

[TheShadowWolf911]

OLDIRTYBARON wrote...

Well they needed something to go with in order to have a baseline for new players. I'm honestly just glad they didn't pick a Human Noble, as that was by far the blandest way to play Dragon Age in my opinion.

Also, while the OGB isn't canon, Witch Hunt is. Awakening, Amgarrak, and Witch Hunt happened, just with the Orlesian Warden-Commander as opposed to the Hero of Ferelden.

THANK YOU

seriously, even removing the fact you were a human in that origin, that was the worst of the origins.

[Taleroth]

Wulfram wrote...

Problem, 100 year jump means it's not the Dragon Age any more.

I think we'll manage with the Age of Waning Magic or whatever the next one is.

Oooh, ooh, Blighted Age. After the destruction of the Old Gods, the Darkspawn form a nation of their own.

Or Gnome Age. Where the Gnomes arrive and quickly conquer the disarrayed nations.

[Lokiwithrope]

While it doesn't bother me, I expected the default to be a human male Grey Warden that hailed from Highever.

[Shaftell]

I have played both DAO and DA2 on the Xbox 360 but plan to play DAI on the PS4. Is there a way that my choices from the previous games somehow carry over into the PS4. Even if it's just a checklist of choices so I don't play the default story. Can someone set my mind at ease so I don't have to worry?

[Taleroth]

Shaftell wrote...

I have played both DAO and DA2 on the Xbox 360 but plan to play DAI on the PS4. Is there a way that my choices from the previous games somehow carry over into the PS4. Even if it's just a checklist of choices so I don't play the default story. Can someone set my mind at ease so I don't have to worry?

They're working on something. What is unknown and they're not ready to reveal it yet.