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Siona wrote...

Had to laugh at the guy who was talking about how you could choose between so many armors, so many races, so many classes... and totally left out that you can choose to play as a woman OR a man. e__e


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Sure. My only issue with the premise of Inquisition at this point is that it seems like a carbon copy of Origins just on a bigger scale. Civil war in Orlais/Ferelden, other intergroup conflicts to resolve (Dwarves, elves, mages, templars) and some Big Bad Supernatural threat that threatens everyone unless they put aside their differences to stop it. Its the BioWare Formula to a T.


They already said they wouldn´t wake the 2 remaining AD at once and call it a superblight, but that´s the problem when you start a history with a world threatening story and then drop to kind of street level. It often feels underwhelming. That the conflict in DA2 also looked  caused by nobody (Hawke included) having an IQ over 80 didn´t help.

I didn't like DA2 but not for its idea on paper of trying to make a smaller story. Granted, if BioWare can deliver on all of the stuff they're talking about then I won't care too much if its a similar story premise as Origins.


All they are saying reminds me too much of what they claimed about DA2. It also looks like choices are going to be huge this time around, so imports for DA4 are either going to be a headache or the next game will take place on the other side of the world.

But hearing stuff like "Do you save the village or burn the village to the ground?" doesn't exactly fill me with tons of confidence that on the choice/consequence front it won't be as black and white or extreme as recent BioWare games.


Well, you can burn down the village so the enemy won´t be able to use its resources or as a strongpoint, but BW track in good (saint) vs evil (kills kittens for fun) doesn´t make me very hopeful.

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Watched the video for about the 7th time and...

Black City or just random part of the Fade?

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Siona wrote...

Had to laugh at the guy who was talking about how you could choose between so many armors, so many races, so many classes... and totally left out that you can choose to play as a woman OR a man. e__e


BioWare has set that precedent a long time ago.  No need to mention it.  Now if you were talking about 'The witcher'.....

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As for GOT, I am actually wondering when that bad big evil will finally arrive from the North. Seems like they have really bad transportation up there! They could use a Flemeth to give them a ride. 


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This new trailer is,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

https://i.chzbgr.com...7200/h0B02447B/

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Beerfish wrote...

Siona wrote...

Had to laugh at the guy who was talking about how you could choose between so many armors, so many races, so many classes... and totally left out that you can choose to play as a woman OR a man. e__e


BioWare has set that precedent a long time ago.  No need to mention it.  Now if you were talking about 'The witcher'.....


If we're talking to old fans, then yeah that's the precedent, but conferences like that are supposed to be selling points for NEW consumers. Why leave out one thing that can be a deciding factor in whether or not a gamer buys something, especially something as important as gender coice?

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Destiny_1989 wrote...

Watched the video for about the 7th time and...

Black City or just random part of the Fade?

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Probably just a random part of the Fade. It's not exactly easy to get the Black City, and the last people who did go there were twisted into Darkspawn.

Modifié par Rolling Flame, 20 août 2013 - 04:02 .


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if mages get armor, hopefully that means we can make a battlemage this time around.


We probably will, since they were talking about "playstyle freedom" and all that, besides roleplaying.

There were some more armored mage types in the concept art as well.

Anyway, good stuff was on the video.


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This place looks imposing to say the least.

Modifié par Kuroi Kishin, 20 août 2013 - 04:01 .


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Siona wrote...

Beerfish wrote...

Siona wrote...

Had to laugh at the guy who was talking about how you could choose between so many armors, so many races, so many classes... and totally left out that you can choose to play as a woman OR a man. e__e


BioWare has set that precedent a long time ago.  No need to mention it.  Now if you were talking about 'The witcher'.....


If we're talking to old fans, then yeah that's the precedent, but conferences like that are supposed to be selling points for NEW consumers. Why leave out one thing that can be a deciding factor in whether or not a gamer buys something, especially something as important as gender coice?


Fine, I'll take the bait.

He could have not mentioned for a number of reasons. I'll go ahead and list them in least likely to most likely for you.

Least Likely - in order to have race selection for Dragon Age 3 they had to drop gender choice in character creation. Sacrifices must be made after all.
Likely - The developer never considered playing as a woman and probably doesn't play as women in RPGs, thus, the idea of mentioning the gender option never crossed his mind.
Most Likely - It's ****ing BioWare. You get your choice of genitalia. Even for "new consumers" it's practically known universally through osmosis.

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Well, the "dragon scaring away the local wildlife from the desert oasis" bit has to be one of the best, if not the best, looking scenes I have seen in the DA game. If this isn't cutscene material, I am very impressed.

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"Do you save the village, or do you let it burn down?" Masterfully crafted Bioware choices.

In context I'm expecting something a little more like "The Inquisition has reason to believe this village has fallen under the sway of a powerful pride demon. Do you burn it to the ground to make sure its thralls don't get in your way, or try to hunt the demon and see if you can break its hold?"

Connor, basically.

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 This might be nothing, but I really want to know who this woman is:
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She looks kossith, but her armor doesn't seem to be Qunari.

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Personality Disorder wrote...

Well, the "dragon scaring away the local wildlife from the desert oasis" bit has to be one of the best, if not the best, looking scenes I have seen in the DA game. If this isn't cutscene material, I am very impressed.


And I thought Skyrim's dragon animations were impressive.

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Am1_vf wrote...

 This might be nothing, but I really want to know who this woman is:
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She looks kossith, but her armor doesn't seem to be Qunari.


Could be a Tamassran or the Ariqun or even the Arigena. Excellent catch, by the way.

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Personality Disorder wrote...

Well, the "dragon scaring away the local wildlife from the desert oasis" bit has to be one of the best, if not the best, looking scenes I have seen in the DA game. If this isn't cutscene material, I am very impressed.


It probably is cutscene material but is probably in game type footage.  With the DA tolslet you made cutscenes with the cutsne editor but it was all with in game graphics and creatures.  I agree, great scene.  Especially the animals scattering.

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Am1_vf wrote...

 This might be nothing, but I really want to know who this woman is:
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She looks kossith, but her armor doesn't seem to be Qunari.


She's your canon waifu

Semi-confirmed rumor

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Excited!

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AresKeith wrote...

Am1_vf wrote...

 This might be nothing, but I really want to know who this woman is:
(...)

She looks kossith, but her armor doesn't seem to be Qunari.


She's your canon waifu

Semi-confirmed rumor

One can hope...<3

:lol:

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Am1_vf wrote...

 This might be nothing, but I really want to know who this woman is:
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She looks kossith, but her armor doesn't seem to be Qunari.


To me she is the player character, having to make a decision about someones life...

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Beerfish wrote...

Personality Disorder wrote...

Well, the "dragon scaring away the local wildlife from the desert oasis" bit has to be one of the best, if not the best, looking scenes I have seen in the DA game. If this isn't cutscene material, I am very impressed.


It probably is cutscene material but is probably in game type footage.  With the DA tolslet you made cutscenes with the cutsne editor but it was all with in game graphics and creatures.  I agree, great scene.  Especially the animals scattering.


Oh, I'm sure it's in engine. It would just be infinitely more impressive if the animation turned out to be procedural, and the animals scattering - the animal AI in action rather than a singular scripted occurence.

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To me she is the player character, having to make a decision about someones life...


That's what the video seems to imply, yes. And her armor is rather simillar to a couple of the inquisitor armor concepts.

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DiegoRaphael wrote...

Am1_vf wrote...

 This might be nothing, but I really want to know who this woman is:
(...)

She looks kossith, but her armor doesn't seem to be Qunari.


To me she is the player character, having to make a decision about someones life...

It gives tha impression because that is what they talk about in that moment of the video. But i suppose this would semi-confirm kossith player character.

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Am1_vf wrote...

DiegoRaphael wrote...

Am1_vf wrote...

 This might be nothing, but I really want to know who this woman is:
(...)

She looks kossith, but her armor doesn't seem to be Qunari.


To me she is the player character, having to make a decision about someones life...

It gives tha impression because that is what they talk about in that moment of the video. But i suppose this would semi-confirm kossith player character.


I honestly didn't catch her horns when I watched the video. It was pretty blacked out on my screen. It would make sense that they'd keep the Inquisitor in shadow, doubly-so if she is a (hopeful) unannounced race.

Ugh, I want to hope, but I don't know...

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Still over a year for this to release!?

*Tries to contain hype*

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OLDIRTYBARON wrote...


I honestly didn't catch her horns when I watched the video. It was pretty blacked out on my screen. It would make sense that they'd keep the Inquisitor in shadow, doubly-so if she is a (hopeful) unannounced race.

Ugh, I want to hope, but I don't know...


It also would if it were a concept-art, especially an early one. They need to illustrate the idea of a power-wielding PC and they use an old concept that does the job perfectly. I don't think it is very indicative of the future product - just a broad study to help with the direction of the project that worked in the presentation.